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Busman747 08-11-2011 20:53
Just fancied a few chips
 
I was pushed for time tonight so against my better judgement, (I am on a low-fat diet) I decided to buy a small portion of chips to go with the ham in the fridge.

I went into RICHMOND CHIPPIE on Willows Lane which is owned and staffed by Asians and is just round the corner from me.

I ordered my small chips! There were 2 customers waiting for fish in front of me and they both got their meals after a 15 minute wait. Just before they received their meals, another guy entered the chippie and ordered a 9" garlic bread. The staff then started making up takeaway orders - and ran out of chips!:eek:

The next batch of chips are cooked, the guy walks out with his cooked garlic bread and I am all alone at the counter...................:alright:

A little Asian kid walks in and asks for a Dab. "With chips" he was asked, "no" he replied and duly got his Dab complete with salt & vinegar. I am getting just a tad unhappy now, all I want is a portion of chips and I have been in the place for close on 30 minutes!!

Just as I thought I might get my chips, a lady walked in wearing a burka and ordered pie and chips and she was immediately served!

The member of staff finally turned to me and asked confirmation that I wanted just small chips.......................

The look on his face was a picture as I told him quite graphically where to shove his chips :dflam::dflam:

30 minutes wasted - - but a gratifying finish!

lancsdave 08-11-2011 20:58
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Thats what you call customer feedback :D

garinda 08-11-2011 21:03
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Don't blame you.

You showed more restraint than I would have.

:D

I hope it was just blatant ignorance, and not something much more sinister, to do with who you are.

:rolleyes::eek:














Your good lady wife might have informed them to make purchasing chips as difficult as possible, if you attempt it, so as not to risk breaking your diet.

:D

davemac 08-11-2011 21:03
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I think that was a sign that you were not destined to eat chips, you wouldnt have had the same trouble in a greengrocers:hesoff:

jedimaster 08-11-2011 21:03
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i see you've mellowed in your old age uncle geoffrey!

Retlaw 08-11-2011 21:06
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Tha shud av ad mur nouse than tu av gon in yon intut fost place,
probably saved thisen a night sat ontut bog.

Busman747 08-11-2011 21:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 946165)
Don't blame you.

You showed more restraint than I would have.

:D

I hope it was just blatant ignorance, and not something much more sinister, to do with who you are.

:rolleyes::eek:
After 15 or so minutes, I could feel the anger building up - but I finally reached the point that I knew I would not have any chips from there but just waited patiently to see just how long it would take them.

As for being racist, YES, I believe it was! If I was an Asian lad treated like that in an English chippie, I would quite rightly be upset and would have known exactly where and to whom I could report them to. Unfortunately, it doesn't work the other way round...:o

garinda 08-11-2011 21:28
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busman747 (Post 946171)

As for being racist, YES, I believe it was! If I was an Asian lad treated like that in an English chippie, I would quite rightly be upset and would have known exactly where and to whom I could report them to. Unfortunately, it doesn't work the other way round...:o
That's terrrible!

You should get on to your councils, both H.B.C., and L.C.C.

They're very hot on racism.


















Promoting it...that is.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ist-57146.html

Tealeaf 08-11-2011 21:34
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It's a shame you didn't take your slice of ham with you; you could have slung it in the deep fryer. The burka brigade would not have been eating many chips after that.

Busman747 08-11-2011 21:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 946178)
That's terrrible!

You should get on to your councils, both H.B.C., and L.C.C.

They're very hot on racism.


















Promoting it...that is.

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ist-57146.html
LOVE the footnote Gary...........:lol::lol:

garinda 08-11-2011 21:36
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You're right.

It's wrong.

You're not blind, or stupid.

You can understand when a situation is clearly motivated by racism.

Not making light of it, I'm not, but I've experienced similar ignorant race prejudice...in certain places in North Wales.

Unfortunately matey, when it comes to race relation legislation here in England, there's a definite colour bar.

Which can always be summed up as 'White ain't right'.

wallop79 08-11-2011 21:36
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30 mins wait, you most av been off yer head, I wouldn't have even waited 5 mins with people obviously being served before ya, I would av gone home & had a ham butty, but not before telling them in no uncertain terms (like you did) where to show their greasy chips.

esteemedjuju 09-11-2011 05:54
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shame you did'nt have a pad and paper you stand there looking round and writing on your pad does'nt matter what you write they would have served you pretty quick thinking you were checking up on them

jaysay 09-11-2011 06:41
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busman 747 (Post 946171)
After 15 or so minutes, I could feel the anger building up - but I finally reached the point that I knew I would not have any chips from there but just waited patiently to see just how long it would take them.

As for being racist, YES, I believe it was! If I was an Asian lad treated like that in an English chippie, I would quite rightly be upset and would have known exactly where and to whom I could report them to. Unfortunately, it doesn't work the other way round...:o
You must have the Patience of a saint Busman, they'd have got told in no uncertain terms were to go after ten minutes never mind 30 if it had been me

Accysense 09-11-2011 16:45
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Exact dame thing happened to me in Amico (Willows Lane). Waited around 15-20mins for Donner Meat and chips, whilst several of our asian cousins walked in, ordered, and walked out. I made a point, waited for him to make the donner meat and chips, and then told him where to shove it. Wont be going back!

garinda 09-11-2011 16:58
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Racial prejudice is wrong, and supposedly illegal in this country.

It doesn't matter who's treated differently, because of the racial group they happen to belong to.

It's wrong.

Even if the wooly thinking, liberal elite of this country, think it's only a one way discrimination issue, and everyone other than those who skin happens to be white, can be it's only victims.

Busman747 09-11-2011 17:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Accysense (Post 946310)
Exact dame thing happened to me in Amico (Willows Lane). Waited around 15-20mins for Donner Meat and chips, whilst several of our asian cousins walked in, ordered, and walked out. I made a point, waited for him to make the donner meat and chips, and then told him where to shove it. Wont be going back!
I was discussing my experience at the Chippie with one of my daughters last night - and she had experienced exactly the same problem at Amico's even though she considered herself a "regular." Her order was put aside in favour of Asian customers that entered the shop after her! :(

jaysay 09-11-2011 17:47
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busman747 (Post 946321)
I was discussing my experience at the Chippie with one of my daughters last night - and she had experienced exactly the same problem at Amico's even though she considered herself a "regular." Her order was put aside in favour of Asian customers that entered the shop after her! :(
So we can take it you'll be giving the establishment a wide birth in future Busman;)

wallop79 09-11-2011 21:37
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I wouldn't eat from establishments like Amico's if my life depended on it, I used to live nearby & once saw a member of staff urinate in the back street then go back into the shop, I'd bet all the tea in China he didn't wash his hands before carrying on preparing food.

katex 09-11-2011 22:16
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For heaven's sake, Busman, would it not have been easier to have put a few frozen chip in yer chip pan ? Surely, the chips would have been cold by the time you had grilled your ham ?. However, take the point of what you are trying to say. x

Colin B 10-11-2011 01:22
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This is not just going on in this chippy, has anyone else had the same experience at the asian run Abbey St Post Office (main)? I was in there last week, having walked in behind a young asian to join a que of about 6 or 7 people already waiting to be served. After a few minutes waiting, an asian lady behind the counter motioned the asian lad over and served him before the other people in the que, much to the suppressed anger of the people waiting.

garinda 10-11-2011 05:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin B (Post 946469)
This is not just going on in this chippy, has anyone else had the same experience at the asian run Abbey St Post Office (main)? I was in there last week, having walked in behind a young asian to join a que of about 6 or 7 people already waiting to be served. After a few minutes waiting, an asian lady behind the counter motioned the asian lad over and served him before the other people in the que, much to the suppressed anger of the people waiting.
Not saying this didn't happen, but certainly not been my experience.

Have always found all the staff there professional, and exceptionally helpful, and friendly.

Eric 10-11-2011 07:24
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An aside: The one high profile muslim business in K'town, "The Bazar", had a sign reading "Happy Eid" ... some local, politically incorrect individual modified the sign a little .... it now reads, "Happy iEd":eek::alright: ... If they don't change it back, I'll get a pic tomorrow.

jaysay 10-11-2011 09:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Colin B (Post 946469)
This is not just going on in this chippy, has anyone else had the same experience at the asian run Abbey St Post Office (main)? I was in there last week, having walked in behind a young asian to join a que of about 6 or 7 people already waiting to be served. After a few minutes waiting, an asian lady behind the counter motioned the asian lad over and served him before the other people in the que, much to the suppressed anger of the people waiting.
More fool anybody waiting letting um get away with it:(

wallop79 10-11-2011 11:57
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 946499)
More fool anybody waiting letting um get away with it:(
Exactly, it doest matter what colour skin they have to me if people queue jump when I'm in the queue I speak up.

garinda 10-11-2011 13:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 946499)
More fool anybody waiting letting um get away with it:(
True.

If I've ever been in a post office, and anyone even attempts to queue jump, there's always been a riot.

:rolleyes::D

mobertol 10-11-2011 13:17
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People don't know how to queue in Italy - these days in most places you have to take a number and wait your turn...in the past it was those with the biggest elbows got served first.:rolleyes:

garinda 10-11-2011 13:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 946541)
People don't know how to queue in Italy - these days in most places you have to take a number and wait your turn...in the past it was those with the biggest elbows got served first.:rolleyes:
Yes, it took me a good six months, to train an Italian assistant I had.

About how to behave correctly, and do things the British way.

When in Rome...

Well London, to be precise.

:D

Eric 10-11-2011 13:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 946486)
An aside: The one high profile muslim business in K'town, "The Bazar", had a sign reading "Happy Eid" ... some local, politically incorrect individual modified the sign a little .... it now reads, "Happy iEd":eek::alright: ... If they don't change it back, I'll get a pic tomorrow.
Damn ... sign's gone ... there will probably be a fatwa issued against politically incorrect Kingstonians who object to young Canadian men and women being blown up in Afghanistan, the leading recipient of Canadian foreign aid.:rolleyes:; and who also object to muslim immigrants using one Kingston's tourist attractions as a dump for the victims of an "honour killing". Ontario News: Were deaths of 4 women a matter of 'honour'? - thestar.com

We don't have asian chippys in K'town ... here it's worse. The owners of the two decent places are from Preston:eek::eek::eek:

mobertol 10-11-2011 14:12
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My first day in Italy - 8th Sept 1986.
Bus to Milan Central station from Malpensa airport - i was sitting behind the driver with my Rucksack on my knees. Police were called out to stop a mass brawl as there weren't enough places on the bus and passengers who couldn't get on started throwing the luggage of those who were on the bus out onto the tarmac....

Arrived late at the station -5 mins till train for Pavia departed, massive unruly queues for tickets. Looking innocent and lost I stopped a guy in uniform who worked there and ended up being taken to the front of the queue -ticket sorted and was escorted to the train and seen on-board with a kiss on the hand (Didn't get his number though;))

You have to love the Italians even if they don't queue!:D

Busman747 10-11-2011 16:35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 946448)
For heaven's sake, Busman, would it not have been easier to have put a few frozen chip in yer chip pan ? Surely, the chips would have been cold by the time you had grilled your ham ?. However, take the point of what you are trying to say. x
I was short on time (haha) and weak in mind that eve, I wouldn't under normal circumstances consider fried chips. It would normally be sliced potatoes brushed with olive oil and a sprinkling of chillie powder or Weight Watchers low-fat chips, both done in the oven which takes much longer......

The ham (lean) was pre-cooked and ready to be eaten cold (with the chips:))


katex 10-11-2011 17:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Busman747 (Post 946587)
The ham (lean) was pre-cooked and ready to be eaten cold (with the chips:))
Ah ... Ok. Busman .. thought you meant gammon .. must remember the difference.

I love cold meat with a plate of chips garnished with Piccalilli and maybe a buttered fresh muffin to slap it all into .. yummee. :D

jaysay 10-11-2011 18:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 946541)
People don't know how to queue in Italy - these days in most places you have to take a number and wait your turn...in the past it was those with the biggest elbows got served first.:rolleyes:
Especially if the Germans are around;)

jaysay 10-11-2011 18:04
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 946558)
My first day in Italy - 8th Sept 1986.
Bus to Milan Central station from Malpensa airport - i was sitting behind the driver with my Rucksack on my knees. Police were called out to stop a mass brawl as there weren't enough places on the bus and passengers who couldn't get on started throwing the luggage of those who were on the bus out onto the tarmac....

Arrived late at the station -5 mins till train for Pavia departed, massive unruly queues for tickets. Looking innocent and lost I stopped a guy in uniform who worked there and ended up being taken to the front of the queue -ticket sorted and was escorted to the train and seen on-board with a kiss on the hand (Didn't get his number though;))

You have to love the Italians even if they don't queue!:D
Ah the 8th Sept 1986 was when Italy started going down hill then:rolleyes::D:D

mobertol 10-11-2011 19:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 946632)
Especially if the Germans are around;)
That'd be around Lake Garda then....:)

mobertol 10-11-2011 19:27
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 946636)
Ah the 8th Sept 1986 was when Italy started going down hill then:rolleyes::D:D
No knowing which direction they'll go -usually the easiest way out..:rolleyes:

Busman747 10-11-2011 19:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by katex (Post 946597)
Ah ... Ok. Busman .. thought you meant gammon .. must remember the difference.

I love cold meat with a plate of chips garnished with Piccalilli and maybe a buttered fresh muffin to slap it all into .. yummee. :D
It's ok Katex, must remember that I'm a southerner still (only been Oop north 7 years:o) even a "buttered fresh muffin" would have thrown me a few years back, to me it would be a "roll" (preferably crusty)

garinda 10-11-2011 19:40
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I blame Garibaldi, and his lousy biscuits.

It all started going downhill for the Italians after unification in the nineteenth century.

They were much happier as collection of city states, with the shouty lot confined to the south.

People are always more content under independent rule, rather than all be lumped together, as some unworkable super state, governed from far away.

:rolleyes::D

mobertol 10-11-2011 21:00
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 946699)
I blame Garibaldi, and his lousy biscuits.

It all started going downhill for the Italians after unification in the nineteenth century.

They were much happier as collection of city states, with the shouty lot confined to the south.

People are always more content under independent rule, rather than all be lumped together, as some unworkable super state, governed from far away.

:rolleyes::D
Hear, hear -bloudy southerners...;):D

yerself 10-11-2011 21:18
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This is nothing new. Many years ago, about 30 I think, we had the misfortune to be in LLandudno where we decided to stop for something to eat. There were about six of us, we decided to have fish and chips and queued up in a chippy, when we got to the counter I ordered six portions of fish and chips. "Sorry" was the reply "We've no fish left". There just happened to be about 6 or 8 fish in the warmer. "What are these then?" we asked. "Oh They're reserved for the locals." replied the charming Welsh gentleman. I won't repeat the advice we gave him.

cashman 10-11-2011 21:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yerself (Post 946742)
This is nothing new. Many years ago, about 30 I think, we had the misfortune to be in LLandudno where we decided to stop for something to eat. There were about six of us, we decided to have fish and chips and queued up in a chippy, when we got to the counter I ordered six portions of fish and chips. "Sorry" was the reply "We've no fish left". There just happened to be about 6 or 8 fish in the warmer. "What are these then?" we asked. "Oh They're reserved for the locals." replied the charming Welsh gentleman. I won't repeat the advice we gave him.
Me n mate had a similar thing when we called in a pub one early evening on Anglesey mid 60s, we ordered 2 pints of bitter n immediately all the pub including the barman switched to Welsh, couldn't understand us, big mistake,as we just reverted to Liverpool backslang n nicely gave em a real gobfull.:D

garinda 10-11-2011 22:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yerself (Post 946742)
This is nothing new. Many years ago, about 30 I think, we had the misfortune to be in LLandudno where we decided to stop for something to eat. There were about six of us, we decided to have fish and chips and queued up in a chippy, when we got to the counter I ordered six portions of fish and chips. "Sorry" was the reply "We've no fish left". There just happened to be about 6 or 8 fish in the warmer. "What are these then?" we asked. "Oh They're reserved for the locals." replied the charming Welsh gentleman. I won't repeat the advice we gave him.
(#11)
Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 946181)
Not making light of it, I'm not, but I've experienced similar ignorant race prejudice...in certain places in North Wales.
I was in the exact same chippy. boyo.

Dai Waiting's, in Llneryshughesmaxboyceannerobinsongogogoch.

;):D

jedimaster 10-11-2011 22:36
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oi be'ave you lot. just moved back from n.wales (llandudno) and i've never had a problem anywhere in wales. always been more than accommodating

garinda 10-11-2011 22:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 946769)
oi be'ave you lot. just moved back from n.wales (llandudno) and i've never had a problem anywhere in wales. always been more than accommodating

Llandudno's not even in Wales.

It's a suburb of Merseyside.

:D

phil8715 10-11-2011 23:21
Most of North Wales is an overspill from Merseyside, as is the Isle Of Man.

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DaveinGermany 11-11-2011 05:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 946769)
oi be'ave you lot. just moved back from n.wales (llandudno) and i've never had a problem anywhere in wales. always been more than accommodating
That's because you had your own sheep & wasn't trying to nick one of the locals girlfriends. :D

jaysay 11-11-2011 09:05
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 946693)
That'd be around Lake Garda then....:)
With towels on the sunbeds;)

jaysay 11-11-2011 09:11
Re: Just fancied a few chips
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by yerself (Post 946742)
This is nothing new. Many years ago, about 30 I think, we had the misfortune to be in LLandudno where we decided to stop for something to eat. There were about six of us, we decided to have fish and chips and queued up in a chippy, when we got to the counter I ordered six portions of fish and chips. "Sorry" was the reply "We've no fish left". There just happened to be about 6 or 8 fish in the warmer. "What are these then?" we asked. "Oh They're reserved for the locals." replied the charming Welsh gentleman. I won't repeat the advice we gave him.
Many years ago we were working in a pub in the welsh valleys, fitting a bar in the function room, when he knocked of for the night we called into the snug for a drink (the pub was out in the country) when we went in there were about 6 farm workers having a quiet drink, when we walked in the stopped talking in English and started talking welsh, my mate went to the bar, said to the barman two pints of bitter please and one for those ignorant bastards over their;)

jaysay 11-11-2011 09:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 946746)
Me n mate had a similar thing when we called in a pub one early evening on Anglesey mid 60s, we ordered 2 pints of bitter n immediately all the pub including the barman switched to Welsh, couldn't understand us, big mistake,as we just reverted to Liverpool backslang n nicely gave em a real gobfull.:D
Looks like it was a regular event cashy, then they wonder why nobody likes um:D

jaysay 11-11-2011 09:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 946786)
That's because you had your own sheep & wasn't trying to nick one of the locals girlfriends. :D
Na Dave me probably wasn't wearing wellies:D

talentedbutslow 11-11-2011 14:46
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Some 7 years ago,my wife and I were touring in Britain.finding it difficult to get a b&b in Caernavon,we moved on to Llanfair PG(don,t anyone dare ask me to give you the full name).We found a pub opposite the railway station,booked in ,then decided to have a few drinks.Naturally I asked for the drinks in English.There was a pregnant pause whilst all the people who had been speaking English when we came in,switched to Welsh and we were ignored.We did eventually get a drink,but we certainly weren.t made welcome there

Tal

jedimaster 13-11-2011 13:38
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i did respond to this however there seems to be an issue with communicating in welsh!

perhaps you go to wales with an anti welsh attitude but from personal experience, treat us right and we treat you right! respect our country, it's traditions and it's language(s) and we will respect you. I do however understand that there is a minority of welsh people who do have some kind of chip on their shoulder re: the english (can't possibly think why! ;-) )

garinda 13-11-2011 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947486)
i did respond to this however there seems to be an issue with communicating in welsh!

perhaps you go to wales with an anti welsh attitude but from personal experience, treat us right and we treat you right! respect our country, it's traditions and it's language(s) and we will respect you. I do however understand that there is a minority of welsh people who do have some kind of chip on their shoulder re: the english (can't possibly think why! ;-) )
I'm a full quarter Welsh, and am a direct descendent of Owain Glyndŵr, and proud of it.

I tend to treat everyone with respect, initially.

I've seen open racism in Wales, just as I have in Kenya, Germany, England, and lots of other places too.

Just because something's not been seen, doesn't mean it isn't happening.

I've never seen a duck-billed platypus, but I do believe others, who say they do actually exist.

;)

jedimaster 13-11-2011 15:53
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agreed it does exist - as i pointed out, however i also pointed out that it is a minority

garinda 13-11-2011 15:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947571)
agreed it does exist - as i pointed out, however i also pointed out that it is a minority
Agreed. Like many other places, the Welsh onanists are thankfully few.

DaveinGermany 13-11-2011 16:06
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Quote:
Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947573)
Agreed. Like many other places, the Welsh onanists are thankfully few.
Because there's an abundance of Sheep :idunno: (Sorry, it was just so deserving, you can't let a line like that go begging :D)

jedimaster 13-11-2011 16:07
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btw talented here it is in full, Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyllllantysili ogogogoch

or 'the church of mary in the hollow of the white hazel by the fierce whirlpool and the church of tysilio by the red cave'!

originally two villages, amalgamated into one as a publicity stunt in the 1800's with the aim of getting people off the trains while they waited at the station. also home to britains first women's institute

DaveinGermany 13-11-2011 16:11
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I thought there was something about lilies & ponds in there too ?

garinda 13-11-2011 16:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947578)
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwyllllantysili ogogogoch
...and you've just gone and split them up again, after all that time together.

Shame on you!

:eek:

:D

jaysay 13-11-2011 17:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947571)
agreed it does exist - as i pointed out, however i also pointed out that it is a minority
Probably more prevalent in the valleys than anywhere, that's where I came across it

talentedbutslow 13-11-2011 17:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 947615)
Probably more prevalent in the valleys than anywhere, that's where I came across it
Nah....have experienced the same thing at Dollgellau and points east.
Have never experienced it in my fav place in Wales.....Tenby (but then,Pembrokeshire is often cited as "little England beyond Wales")

Tal

Margaret Pilkington 13-11-2011 17:44
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I have been to Wales many times.......and while years ago I noted that people did speak in Welsh if English people came into the shop....I don't see it much now. Maybe it is because I am not really interested in their topic of conversation.
Anyway, Ma learned to speak Welsh so that she could converse with them and that works wonders...it really does.
I have no quarrel with people who want to keep their conversations from my ears....I just wish those on public transport with mobile phones could do something similar.

Owain Glyndwr....what happened to him? He was a mercenary and when the English were beating the tar out of the Welsh hill folk he fought for the English.
then the Welsh stumped up and offered him more cash than the English were paying him, so he changed sides.
No-one knows what happened to him...there are stories that he escaped to Ireland to live the quiet life of a farmer....there are stories that he was killed in battle.He promised that if ever Wales was in trouble he would return and rescue them........where was he in the recent Rugby World Cup?

jaysay 13-11-2011 17:44
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Originally Posted by talentedbutslow (Post 947619)
Nah....have experienced the same thing at Dollgellau and points east.
Have never experienced it in my fav place in Wales.....Tenby (but then,Pembrokeshire is often cited as "little England beyond Wales")

Tale
Tendy is a holiday resort, it would be suicide if they did the welsh language tripe there

jedimaster 13-11-2011 18:58
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 947622)
I have been to Wales many times.......and while years ago I noted that people did speak in Welsh if English people came into the shop....I don't see it much now. Maybe it is because I am not really interested in their topic of conversation.
Anyway, Ma learned to speak Welsh so that she could converse with them and that works wonders...it really does.
I have no quarrel with people who want to keep their conversations from my ears....I just wish those on public transport with mobile phones could do something similar.

Owain Glyndwr....what happened to him? He was a mercenary and when the English were beating the tar out of the Welsh hill folk he fought for the English.
then the Welsh stumped up and offered him more cash than the English were paying him, so he changed sides.
No-one knows what happened to him...there are stories that he escaped to Ireland to live the quiet life of a farmer....there are stories that he was killed in battle.He promised that if ever Wales was in trouble he would return and rescue them........where was he in the recent Rugby World Cup?

quite simply no-one knows although there are several twists to the legend including the apparition to the abbot of valle crucis at llangollen (who went on to travel the length and breadth of wales telling the stories of owain and also predicted the coming of the tudor monarchy)

Margaret Pilkington 13-11-2011 19:08
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Yes, I recently visited Llangollen and we journeyed back to Llandudno via Corwen, St Asaph and Ruthin......we saw the statue of Owain Glyndwr on horseback in the square at Corwen....we were told that this statue is a recent acqusition as the previous one was ugly.
I liked the myths and legends that we were entertained with...we were even told that Owain may have ended his days in Kent posing as a friar....yet some say he is buried in Corwen. Great stuff.

garinda 13-11-2011 19:20
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 947622)
I have been to Wales many times.......and while years ago I noted that people did speak in Welsh if English people came into the shop....I don't see it much now. Maybe it is because I am not really interested in their topic of conversation.
Anyway, Ma learned to speak Welsh so that she could converse with them and that works wonders...it really does.
I have no quarrel with people who want to keep their conversations from my ears....I just wish those on public transport with mobile phones could do something similar.

Owain Glyndwr....what happened to him? He was a mercenary and when the English were beating the tar out of the Welsh hill folk he fought for the English.
then the Welsh stumped up and offered him more cash than the English were paying him, so he changed sides.
No-one knows what happened to him...there are stories that he escaped to Ireland to live the quiet life of a farmer....there are stories that he was killed in battle.He promised that if ever Wales was in trouble he would return and rescue them........where was he in the recent Rugby World Cup?
Owain Glyndŵr.

I said I'm a quarter Welsh, which is true.

I didn't say I was a direct descendent of Owain Glyndŵr through my Welsh line.

;)

In truth, even more shamefully, it was through one Marmaduke Beckwith...a Yorkshireman.

http://photofond.eu/img/smiles_dark/SmileyNo-no.gif

That's a big race cross to bear, being a mulatto

:D

jedimaster 13-11-2011 19:30
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 947654)
Yes, I recently visited Llangollen and we journeyed back to Llandudno via Corwen, St Asaph and Ruthin......we saw the statue of Owain Glyndwr on horseback in the square at Corwen....we were told that this statue is a recent acqusition as the previous one was ugly.
I liked the myths and legends that we were entertained with...we were even told that Owain may have ended his days in Kent posing as a friar....yet some say he is buried in Corwen. Great stuff.

i believe another is that he ended his days in herefordshire at one of the homes owned by the husband of one of his daughters

Margaret Pilkington 13-11-2011 20:10
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Originally Posted by jedimaster (Post 947661)
i believe another is that he ended his days in herefordshire at one of the homes owned by the husband of one of his daughters
That one would probably be more plausible.

Margaret Pilkington 13-11-2011 20:17
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He had five sons and is reputed to have had five daughters......daughters Janet and Margaret both married well...to knights.
Janet married Sir John de Croft and went to live at Croft Castle.Margaret married Sir Richard Monnington....both of these daughters lived in herefordshire.

See I was listening to the history lesson on the coach.

jedimaster 13-11-2011 20:57
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must have had a local driver then!

Margaret Pilkington 13-11-2011 21:13
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No, the driver who took us out on this trip was from Yorkshire....but he had been doing the trip for years.
Our regular driver, who had a day off that day was a local......born and bred in Old Colwyn.
He was equally knowledgeable and I enjoyed his commentaries very much(though some of the oldies said they wished he would shut up for a bit....I think they wanted to sleep;)).
I like historical detail of the places I am visiting. I just wish they had taught history in this manner when I was at school...I would certainly have learned more.

jedimaster 13-11-2011 21:42
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me too, i learned more history from being a coach driver than i ever did in school, and found i really enjoyed it especially welsh history which is never taught in schools and of course all the myths and legends also.

garinda 13-11-2011 21:57
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 947672)
He had five sons and is reputed to have had five daughters......daughters Janet and Margaret both married well...to knights.
Janet married Sir John de Croft and went to live at Croft Castle.Margaret married Sir Richard Monnington....both of these daughters lived in herefordshire.

See I was listening to the history lesson on the coach.
It was his daughter Alys ferch Owain Glyndŵr (Alice) who was an anscestor of our Marmaduke Beckwith.

I like him, warts and all.

No one's perfect.

:D

jaysay 14-11-2011 08:50
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947658)
Owain Glyndŵr.

I said I'm a quarter Welsh, which is true.

I didn't say I was a direct descendent of Owain Glyndŵr through my Welsh line.

;)

In truth, even more shamefully, it was through one Marmaduke Beckwith...a Yorkshireman.

http://photofond.eu/img/smiles_dark/SmileyNo-no.gif

That's a big race cross to bear, being a mulatto

:D
A Yorkshireman:dflam::dflam::dflam::D

garinda 14-11-2011 08:57
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 947831)
A Yorkshireman:dflam::dflam::dflam::D
Wish it was a shame I live under, that I hadn't gone public with.

Weakens my stance, the next time I accuse Yorkshiremen of being a dour, and humourless lot of tight wads.

:D

jaysay 14-11-2011 09:07
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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 947836)
Wish it was a shame I live under, that I hadn't gone public with.

Weakens my stance, the next time I accuse Yorkshiremen of being a dour, and humourless lot of tight wads.

:D
But you'd only be telling the truth:D


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