Electromagnetic pollution
 

When Neil drew my attention to EMF radiation in my 'change ISP' thread, I did some websearching about it.
Knowing how some people are sensitive to EMF radiation and suffer adverse health effects from it, I decided to reduce my exposure to it.

I have disabled my BT homehub wireless emissions and chucked out my wireless telephone.
I am back to using a corded phone but that isn't a problem. Living in a small space means wherever I am in the flat isn't a route march to reach it.
I have, but don't use, a mobile phone - I won't need one when I give up driving (very soon)

When websearching I came across a phrase new to me - 'dirty elecricity'.
There are plenty of videos on youtube explaining it
dirty electricty - YouTube

I have always been a fan of compact fluorescent light bulbs and began using them long before incandescent bulbs were phased out.
Not any more :mad:- I now have got myself some LED lightbulbs. (see thumbnail)

I recognise that our society cannot survive without electrical gadgets, and I know I would struggle without internet.
Whilst there appears a possible connection between electromagnetic pollution and poor health for some people, it makes sense to reduce that pollution if you reasonably can.

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I first heard that term about two years ago from a girl that I knew who'd got a pretty nasty electric shock from her vibrator.

Monitors - please move this thread to the adult section now.

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How humble of you to admit that your lady friend needed one;)

PS smart meters pollute too
http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ter-59782.html

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Purely platonic. She's as ugly as sin. Wouldn't touch her with the proverbial bargepole.

Still, it just goes to show how nice I am, being friendly with everyone.

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Margaret, I found this clip on youtube Pop corn with cell phones - YouTube

I wonder if its the same type of thing that I used to notice when I ever drove under
electricity pylons years ago, if the radio was on in the car the interference was terrible, and as I drove away from the pylon the radio was as clear as a bell.


Today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday, Was it worth it ?

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A quick Google on Dirty Electricity produced these threads from Skeptics,

The Skeptics Society Forum • View topic - "Dirty Electricity"

electromagnetic field (EMF), electromagnetic radiation - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

and for balance this

Dirty Electricity Information | What is Dirty Electricity?

Now I don't believe in the New World Order, Chemtrails, Fracking causing exploding tap water, 9/11 a inside job etc.


you pays your money and you take your pick.


For the record, I have had a mobile phone since the early 90's, back when we still had Analogue not Digital, before that I had a Rabbit (a type of cordless mobile phone, http://en.wikipedia.or/wiki/Rabbit_%...munications%29), we had a cordless phone in our house in the mid 80's, I have had wifi since 2005. I get attacked by Cosmic radiation every time I fly, more than passengers get, I am sitting near HF, VHF and Sat Comms when I work.
I have a major medical examination every year, as part of my Pilots License, Apart from being a touch overweight, there is nothing wrong with me.
Read into that what you wish.:alright:

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Kenny a bit of research further you would have found this:

Cell Phone Popcorn? - Urban Legend

and this:

Physicist Debunks Cellphone Popcorn Viral Videos | Underwire | Wired.com

and this:

CSI | Viral Video Cell-Phone Scare

the whole thing was a Viral Hoax from a company called Cardo Systems, trying to promote the advantages of Bluetooth Headsets, theirs......

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Firms wouldn't do that would they BG:eek::rolleyes:

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Like many things in life, not all people are the same.....some are ultra sensitive to peanuts and exposure to someone who has touched a peanut could kill them.....but peanuts to the vast majority of us are harmless.
Some peole can take all manner of antibiotics and come to no serious short term harm........if I was to be given tetracycline I would be very sick indeed.

I think EMF is a bit like this.....for a lot of us it will have little or no tangible effect that we can discern.
But for some people, EMF will cause them severe physical problems.

I think when ridicule is being dished out, it should be remembered that we are all unique beings...that we are entitled to our views and opinions, and that opinions are just that...opinions.

Many scientific studies are carried out and their results are lauded....then afew months later another will be published which refutes the theories put forward in a previous study....which all goes to show that scientists know less than 1% of all that happens on our planet. Heck, they are even questioning Einsteins Theory of Relativity.

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Not ridicule Margaret, just providing some alternatives.

As to the popcorn, well a simple search showed it was false.
I agree things do affect people in different ways, it is just I do not believe things I see on the web or in the press as absolute truth, I look for alternatives rather than trying to fit what is happening in the world to a narrow model formed by certain websites and a narrow mindset.

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I didn't mean you BG....I meant that generally when MargaretR posts stuff like this there is a wave of ridicule from people who (perhaps) don't think through what they are posting. I think Margaret doesn't necessarily believe all that is posted onto the web or any other media, and she has shown that she can research with the best of them....and I would say from what I have read of her postings, that she doesn't have a particularly narrow mindset. However, that cannot be said of others who sometimes post on here

She has her own opinions. They may not coincide with mine or yours. That doesn't stop us respecting them, even if we disagree with them.
Nor does it stop us from posting alternative ideas or information....to be read and balanced with what has gone before.......which is how I viewed your post....a balancing view/discussion.

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When you research electromagnetic pollution you learn that it is not in the range that heats water - so the popcorn hoax may well have been engineered in order to be discredited - so that the people who haven't bothered to find out more will rest content that all is well.

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Please don't just consider mobile phones - fluorescent bulbs can affect your body too

Story on CFL Lightbulbs - CBC Montreal - YouTube

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so how many conspiracy theorists DOES it take to change a lightbulb? ;)

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How many Conspiracy theorists did it take to change a light bulb? - JREF Forum

"Why bother, the sheeple love to be kept in the dark" :D

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Not as many as it takes to change a normal sane person's point of view (I hope).

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can't argue with that one :D

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Was your degree from Sussex Uni in psychiatry?
If not, how do you qualify to say who and who isn't sane/normal?

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Lightbulb joke - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Q. How many psychiatrists does it take to change a light bulb?
A. One–but the light bulb has to really want to change.

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Maybe the sheep don't give a toss;)

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I wouldn't know - ask Jedimaster;)

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can't say, we have goats in llandudno!

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Bet they give a toss either jedi;)

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naah but when we take em to the edge of the orme they do tend to push back somewhat harder :p

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These are the Kashmir goats that live on the Orme...a present from Queen Victoria...she didn't know what to do with them...they kept eating her drawers.

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Not what I've heard in your case.:hidewall::D:D

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Doesn't take a degree in psychiatry to recognise a nutter when you meet one.

However my degree was the culmination of seven years of scientific education which I think qualifies me to be able to follow a discussion like this.

I do agree with Neil's comment on the changing ISP thread:

Should keep you busy finding all that lot.

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I have heard a rumour that they might be installing a CCTV camera at the top of Heron Way to keep an eye on the new football fields and building up there.

You best start lining your walls and windows with tin foil because the new cameras they install send the video to Greenbank using a WiFi type transmission system. It bounces the signal from camera to camera using those odd looking square dish type antenna

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I think that you are just being mischievous:p
There is a burglar alarm active - saw the security engineer's van coming and going and a dim light on the gable glows all night to show it's active.
Cameras would prevent theft of grass so until that is in short supply there are no need for cameras.:rolleyes:
Susan - there is ample need for good nutter spotters in Morecambe - the desire to live there is enough. My wifi is disabled by accessing the homehub control panel as you will see in the thread where you should have made such comment.

PS - end to thread wandering - this topic matters

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You're right plenty of nutters in Morecambe but I don't count myself among them as I didn't desire to live there but ended up there by chance though it's a good placeto be.

Thank you for telling me where I should have made my other comment but as you mentioned your wifi in the first post of this thread I thought it would be OK here. I think Neil and I were referring to the other wifis etc that may be next door, outside or wherever.

But as you say an end to thread wandering. What's next on your hit list?

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Are you volunteering?:D

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No, but I'm enjoying this.

Hilarious.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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its impossible to remove all electromagnetic radiation from the environment, tuning a radio accross all frequencies will tell you how much is being transmitted, if you have an older telly ie cathode ray, it is firing 50 watts of emf straight at you. there is also a emf pulse every time you switch electricity on or off.
So making a cuppa to calm your nerves from all the worry about emf gives you a pulse everytime you turn it on and then when it boils.And dont think about warming a pie up in the microwave:eek:
I dont think everyday emf is of any detriment to people, I think it is a matter of degree, the emf from a nuclear bomb could really spoil your day.:)

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Greatpost Dave, sums the situation up well. Let's all find something else to worry about.

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the funny thing is, we always do.:dancedog:

No use talking sense in a thread Mags has started, she just does the internet equivalent of sticking her fingers in her ears and shouting La, La, La, at the top of her voice, she puts you on her ignore list.
(But don't worry it isn't too bad, curiosity gets the better of her within a day or so and she has to peek at what you've said).

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I wonder how does she see what you write if your on her ignore list? ;)

As usual, you ask a question you already know the answer to.
If someone is on an ignore list their post doesn't show up, people answer that post, if she's lucky they will even quote the post saving her the effort of taking you off her ignore list, if it isn't quoted her curiosity always gets the better of her and she just can't resist the temptation of having a look, then 99 times out of 100, she actually comments about a post from someone she claims to ignore.
Not a very stable form of commitment is it?

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Amen to that susie, hell if we had to worry about everything that people say (and governments pay billions for in research into) we might as well lie down a die, you only pass this way once, why waste time on what could happened its bad enough when it does;)

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I think Neil should be ashamed of himself, he knows how vulnerable you are to your fears of such things and has deliberately worked on this weakness just to stir things up.
I do hope that you will soon be able to come to terms with your latest fad and that in future he will refrain from such mean and cowardly manipulation.

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See, Less is a very caring person Margaret;)

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Your just not used to me being helpful.
After I pointed her in the right direction she has researched the problem and sorted it out.
I could have just left her to be microwaved to death by her wifi router.

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Dr. Leif Salford is a swedish neurosurgeon who has conducted experiments on the effects of microwave radiation on the brains of rats. The results show death of brain cells.
THE WORK OF LEIF SALFORD • Cellular Phone Task Force


This a very technical video where he explains the experiments
Electromagnetic Fields and Leakage of the Blood Brain Barrier: Dr. Leif Salford - YouTube!

You probably will continue to use your cellphone after reading this (with links) because you consider that it makes your life easier.

Just consider that this easier life may well be made shorter.

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Two: One to hold it, and one to hammer it in. Or is that engineers:confused:

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For once I'm in full agreement with you, I could be playing with a new app on my mobile and walk out in front of a bus due to lack of concentration.

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It sometimes needs the budding young scientists to show the established science academics what they ought to be investigating.

Plants wont grow near a Wifi router -
Student science experiment finds plants won't grow near Wi-Fi router | MNN - Mother Nature Network

I like cress and don't like cell phones - you are all cress murderers :D

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Shucks Margaret I'll sure sleep better in my bed tonight:hehetable

Electromagnetic pollution
 

Oh dear, coffee withdrawal causing you to go back on your rambles,
I'd ring you in an attempt to cheer you up but I can't get my mobile close enough to my ear because of the tumor reading your posts has caused to what's left of my brain cells.