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groove 15-11-2011 10:50

A serious guestion..your views needed.
 
Well i'm posting in the 1st person bacause this could be the last or indeed a very significant thread. I'd appreciate honesty, which i dont doubt for a minute is what i'll get. In recent weeks i have upset various members. This is'nt usually done on purpose but admittedly i have on several occasions had verbal spars with members who have done the same with me. I try to add something different to the forum, and regularly try to look at all sides of a debate. I dont do this to provoke or antagonise other posters, i just think it beneficial to look at all sides of a discussion. Certain members think i do this just to stir things up and cause controversy. A situation has now arose were members probably envisage me to be an obnoxious, disrespectful trouble maker. You would be very surprised if you met me personally. You would struggle to find anyone with a wrong word for me. I made it known on here that iv previously suffered from the illness of addiction. I am now clean and volunteer tirelessly for people who need help. You may be surprised to hear that last year i raised 5 thousand pound for various charitys. Im not affiliated with Maundy by the way, although Dorothy does a wonderful job. I was raised in a brilliant, hard-working family and people iv known since childhood express their shock at when they heard i was a junkie. Thats why i help others, because a lot of addicts are good people who took a wrong turn in the naivety of youth.....so, im asking you if you would like me to stop posting on Accyweb, your views and comments will be respected. I find the Accyweb lot a good bunch and delight in hearing our more mature members memories of Accy of old. I am quite unique in the way i post on here but i think a bit of variety is what any forum needs. Your views would be appreciated(if u see this as im not on your ignore list);)

Boeing Guy 15-11-2011 11:05

Re: A serious guestion..your views needed.
 
You have apologised more than one on here, is this more of the same?

cashman 15-11-2011 11:18

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like yeh commented about a thread becoming boring groove,you have acheived the same status to me,:rolleyes:

Less 15-11-2011 11:18

No surprise that you were a junkie, though I have to admit reading your post in the first person was far more pleasant than your usual carp.

Perhaps if you continue in that vain you and others will get along far better?

steve2qec 15-11-2011 11:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by groove (Post 948243)
Well i'm posting in the 1st person bacause this could be the last or indeed a very significant thread. I'd appreciate honesty, which i dont doubt for a minute is what i'll get. In recent weeks i have upset various members. This is'nt usually done on purpose but admittedly i have on several occasions had verbal spars with members who have done the same with me. I try to add something different to the forum, and regularly try to look at all sides of a debate. I dont do this to provoke or antagonise other posters, i just think it beneficial to look at all sides of a discussion. Certain members think i do this just to stir things up and cause controversy. A situation has now arose were members probably envisage me to be an obnoxious, disrespectful trouble maker. You would be very surprised if you met me personally. You would struggle to find anyone with a wrong word for me. I made it known on here that iv previously suffered from the illness of addiction. I am now clean and volunteer tirelessly for people who need help. You may be surprised to hear that last year i raised 5 thousand pound for various charitys. Im not affiliated with Maundy by the way, although Dorothy does a wonderful job. I was raised in a brilliant, hard-working family and people iv known since childhood express their shock at when they heard i was a junkie. Thats why i help others, because a lot of addicts are good people who took a wrong turn in the naivety of youth.....so, im asking you if you would like me to stop posting on Accyweb, your views and comments will be respected. I find the Accyweb lot a good bunch and delight in hearing our more mature members memories of Accy of old. I am quite unique in the way i post on here but i think a bit of variety is what any forum needs. Your views would be appreciated(if u see this as im not on your ignore list);)

A heart-felt post, hopefully should change a few opinions. As for myself, I enjoy your posts and would say don't change your style, carry on and you'll win over your "enemies" eventually. I remember not so long ago when Bee was public enemy number 1 and now he's one of the gang. I've quoted your post cos even if you're on an ignore list they'll still see it - unless I'm on ignore as well! Groove...your forum needs you!

Margaret Pilkington 15-11-2011 11:32

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What Less said made me take you off ignore for just a moment or two.

Your post was much more interesting in the first person......can you feel the 'but' coming?
But the post in which you ask this 'serious' question smacks of an attention seeking nature.
Personally I don't care whether you post or not. What I can say is that while you post in third person singular, I will only read what you have written, if it is quoted by another member. You may consider your unique way of posting as 'interesting'...it isn't(or certainly not to me) you may consider that by doing things differently you are adding to the quirkiness of the forum.....you aren't.
You may think that by posting what are offensive juvenile jokes, you will make people laugh....making people laughis an endearing quality isn't it? It might be, if you didn't offend forum members.
You apologise to people for causing offence and then you do the same thing to someone else...and offer another worthless apology.
Do what you want to do....you will anyway. I don't think that what any of the members say will make one iota of difference to your decision.

As far as I am concerned you don't really want to be an active member of the forum, you just want to be noticed.

Margaret Pilkington 15-11-2011 11:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 948259)
A heart-felt post, hopefully should change a few opinions. As for myself, I enjoy your posts and would say don't change your style, carry on and you'll win over your "enemies" eventually. I remember not so long ago when Bee was public enemy number 1 and now he's one of the gang. I've quoted your post cos even if you're on an ignore list they'll still see it - unless I'm on ignore as well! Groove...your forum needs you!

Of course you are entitled to your opinions. Groove will never ever convert me to like his third person singular way of posting.
I am not an enemy....and Bee is not my friend either....nor do I consider him one of the gang(is this the same as the 'clique'.......which I'm not in anyway)

Groove is playing the sympathy card...can't you tell?
The forum will survive if Groove never posted another word. This forum does not stand or fall on the input of one member.

cashman 15-11-2011 11:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 948259)
A heart-felt post, hopefully should change a few opinions.

If yeh honestly "Buy" that steve,yeh musta been a big "Aesop" fan.:rolleyes:

Retlaw 15-11-2011 11:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 948261)
What Less said made me take you off ignore for just a moment or two.

Your post was much more interesting in the first person......can you feel the 'but' coming?
But the post in which you ask this 'serious' question smacks of an attention seeking nature.
Personally I don't care whether you post or not. What I can say is that while you post in third person singular, I will only read what you have written, if it is quoted by another member. You may consider your unique way of posting as 'interesting'...it isn't(or certainly not to me) you may consider that by doing things differently you are adding to the quirkiness of the forum.....you aren't.
You may think that by posting what are offensive juvenile jokes, you will make people laugh....making people laughis an endearing quality isn't it? It might be, if you didn't offend forum members.
You apologise to people for causing offence and then you do the same thing to someone else...and offer another worthless apology.
Do what you want to do....you will anyway. I don't think that what any of the members say will make one iota of difference to your decision.

As far as I am concerned you don't really want to be an active member of the forum, you just want to be noticed.

Well said Margaret, he's nowt but a self centered attention seeking oik.
Groove go and play your mind games some where else.
Retlaw.

Margaret Pilkington 15-11-2011 11:56

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Retlaw, thank you for that. For a moment I thought I was just being a bit cynical....but it did only last for a moment.

flashy 15-11-2011 11:58

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what a load of piffle

steve2qec 15-11-2011 11:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 948264)
If yeh honestly "Buy" that steve,yeh musta been a big "Aesop" fan.:rolleyes:

I've got to take him as I find him, Cashy. He's never upset me with his posts, except for his slight against Sir Jimmy Saville, that is!!

cashman 15-11-2011 12:00

Re: A serious guestion..your views needed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 948271)
I've got to take him as I find him, Cashy. He's never upset me with his posts, except for his slight against Sir Jimmy Saville, that is!!

never upset me steve, i just never bought bullshine.;)

Margaret Pilkington 15-11-2011 12:33

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Quote:

Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 948271)
I've got to take him as I find him, Cashy. He's never upset me with his posts, except for his slight against Sir Jimmy Saville, that is!!

And that is what I did too....for a short while.
After that his posts became tedious.
His posts became more like 'trolling' (and this post is just a variation of that trait)...so I hit the ignore button.
Let's wait and see what happens. I will post nothing more to this thread.
Let us see, if without the oxygen of attention, he can stick around.

b rawlinson 15-11-2011 12:35

Re: A serious guestion..your views needed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by steve2qec (Post 948259)
A heart-felt post, hopefully should change a few opinions. As for myself, I enjoy your posts and would say don't change your style, carry on and you'll win over your "enemies" eventually. I remember not so long ago when Bee was public enemy number 1 and now he's one of the gang. I've quoted your post cos even if you're on an ignore list they'll still see it - unless I'm on ignore as well! Groove...your forum needs you!

I fully agree with your post and that of Groove,a lot of what he says is tongue in cheek which a number of forum members seem to miss,his originality is refreshing and are a ray of light when set against the nunber of depressing posts that have appeared recently:hidewall:

wallop79 15-11-2011 12:42

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Go crawl under the bridge with the rest of the trolls, you have had a personal dig at my father, you pick on one Holmes you pick on us all. You apologized then went & insulted someone else, then the same again & again, I sent you a PM & you didn't like it, well tough, you're a nasty obnoxious snivelling excuse for a human being.

gynn 15-11-2011 12:44

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Keep posting, groove. I prefer it in the first person.

You have as much right as anyone else to express your views, which are as worthwhile as anyone's.

Just try not to keep winding people up!

Michael1954 15-11-2011 13:02

Re: A serious guestion..your views needed.
 
Keep posting, Groove. More posts in the first person would be welcome.

cashman 15-11-2011 13:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by b rawlinson (Post 948278)
I fully agree with your post and that of Groove,a lot of what he says is tongue in cheek which a number of forum members seem to miss,his originality is refreshing and are a ray of light when set against the nunber of depressing posts that have appeared recently:hidewall:

I agree i also think a lot is tongue in cheek, but wi respect brian yeh have missed much of whats been deleted by the powers that be, i doubt very much yeh would have a "refereshing ray of light" opinion if yeh was aware of em,;) i base that judgement off having worked wi yeh, n therefore i know yeh aint thick.;)

b rawlinson 15-11-2011 13:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 948284)
I agree i also think a lot is tongue in cheek, but wi respect brian yeh have missed much of whats been deleted by the powers that be, i doubt very much yeh would have a "refereshing ray of light" opinion if yeh was aware of em,;) i base that judgement off having worked wi yeh, n therefore i know yeh aint thick.;)

Point taken,Alan,i accept that.

davemac 15-11-2011 13:45

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hypocrite, you expect sympathy for your fight against drugs, but show no respect for the elderly, "they shouldnt go down town unless its wednesday afternoon, they shoudnt have a bus pass" show respect to get respect.

on the plus side everyone has a right to speak, even you, so reluctantly I have to say you should speak your mind. I just wont support you.

cashman 15-11-2011 13:47

Re: A serious guestion..your views needed.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by davemac (Post 948289)
hypocrite, you expect sympathy for your fight against drugs, but show no respect for the elderly, "they shouldnt go down town unless its wednesday afternoon, they shoudnt have a bus pass" show respect to get respect.

on the plus side everyone has a right to speak, even you, so reluctantly I have to say you should speak your mind. I just wont support you.

Good post dave, respect is always earned were i came from.;)

Boeing Guy 15-11-2011 15:06

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Agreed Dave, well said.

So Groove there you have it, you joined here, made childish and abusive posts and now are saying its not your fault you were a addict etc.....

Grow up.

Most people have to work bloody hard for anything, I know I do, But here is the crucial bit, I do not want or need yours or anyone sympathy, I too was a addict, several years in fact, but managed to quit the Nicotine Sticks all by myself, did I get a Badge....no.

In my honest opinion you started this thread to see if you would get a reaction, well you did you odious little fellow, now why don't you move on.

JCB 15-11-2011 17:32

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Carry on Groove . It's still a free country , and part of that freedom means there will be many times when I have put up with what to me is obnoxious , or just plain boring .

That's not a licence for personal abuse though .

***Mr D*** 15-11-2011 17:39

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Groove.

Man up, people don't like what you post, so what, its up to you if you want to leave or not. (unless you get banned).

Stop apologising every 5 mins, if it bothers you that much, either don't post anymore or become a sheep and only post what you know people will like.

Being nasty isn't needed though.

Unless you follow it with a :D then it seems its ok.

jaysay 15-11-2011 17:43

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He can carry on posting if he wants, but when somebody has to continually apologies this must be the 20th or 30th I've lost count, there's something wrong, I'll happily keep him on my ignored list

DaveinGermany 15-11-2011 18:39

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I can take you or leave you fella, stay or go it's really of no concern to me, but I'd suggest that if you stay on you'd do better by changing your approach & attitude to some of the folks on here or you'll just be taking a virtual kicking again.

Lose the 3rd person she-ite, post normally & consider your comments, then maybe, just maybe, folk will have more tolerance & time for you.

Not hard really.

heth 15-11-2011 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 948351)
I can take you or leave you fella, stay or go it's really of no concern to me, but I'd suggest that if you stay on you'd do better by changing your approach & attitude to some of the folks on here or you'll just be taking a virtual kicking again.

Lose the 3rd person she-ite, post normally & consider your comments, then maybe, just maybe, folk will have more tolerance & time for you.

Not hard really.


Totally agree with you Dave, I were gonna post some thing similar.

I do read your posts Grove but to be honest I forget them straight away.

Apart from when you have been dis -respectful to a few members on here and that is bang out of order, you cannot do that and keep apologising.

That is why people dont want to know you on here, show some respect.

annesingleton 15-11-2011 19:39

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I think Groove should continue posting, preferably in the first person, but he needs to consider other people's sensibilities, stop being so self obsessed and channel his sense of humour more appropriately - and stop apologising, it means nothing when said so much!

accyman 15-11-2011 20:14

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iv read some of your posts from when you first joined way back when groove .

have you thought about going back on the smack you made more sense back then ;)

garinda 15-11-2011 22:06

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http://www.manysmileys.com/files/B/s...Rn34691885.gif

Tealeaf 15-11-2011 22:11

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I think Groove writes English with a Kashmiri accent.

garinda 15-11-2011 22:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 948465)
I think Groove writes English with a Kashmiri accent.


That might be why only a small minority identify with him.

BERNADETTE 15-11-2011 23:07

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Personally couldn't care whether Groove continues to post on here, if he/she doesn't get theirselves barred before that option is taken away from them. But really it is no harder than speaking to people face to face, if you think what you are going to say is going to offend keep stum:rolleyes:, that is if you are really bothered one way or another.
Haven't read many of Grooves threads/posts but the insulting one about OAP's and bus passes etc gave me a measure of what to expect from future posts:mad:

accyman 16-11-2011 00:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by garinda (Post 948485)
That might be why only a small minority identify with him.

oh no not another minority group for HBC to recognize :(

garinda 16-11-2011 01:06

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Culture Club - Victims - YouTube

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Eric 16-11-2011 01:22

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Brenda Lee - I'm Sorry - YouTube

jaysay 16-11-2011 09:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by BERNADETTE (Post 948489)
Personally couldn't care whether Groove continues to post on here, if he/she doesn't get theirselves barred before that option is taken away from them. But really it is no harder than speaking to people face to face, if you think what you are going to say is going to offend keep stum:rolleyes:, that is if you are really bothered one way or another.
Haven't read many of Grooves threads/posts but the insulting one about OAP's and bus passes etc gave me a measure of what to expect from future posts:mad:

The only thing is Bernie, its easy to call names an insult pensioners sat a computer using a screen name, believe me he wouldn't be so gobby if he was talking face to face, because he would most probably be missing his front teeth;)

groove 16-11-2011 14:41

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All your comments and views have been taken on board. However i must re-iterate that most of my posts were indeed tongue in cheek.

mobertol 16-11-2011 15:08

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Did someone just say something?

Sounded like he had his tongue in his cheek.....

Less 16-11-2011 15:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by groove (Post 948641)
All your comments and views have been taken on board. However i must re-iterate that most of my posts were indeed tongue in cheek.

Perhaps they were, I would hate to think where you are talking from though.

jaysay 16-11-2011 17:55

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 948646)
Did someone just say something?

Sounded like he had his tongue in his cheek.....

Eh never heard a word mobertol, just a droning in the background

jedimaster 16-11-2011 18:02

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really don't understand why this gas been given the time of day, just appears that groove has received yet more of the attention that he obviously craves. but then again, now i'm guilty of being sucked in too


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