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yet again teh issue of smoking in cars has popped up its ugly head by some witch doctor asking for it to be banned.

does anyone remember the good old days when if something smelt in a car such as ciggys or your dads fart you simply opened a window ?

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It does seem crazy, that doctors are calling for smoking to be banned in cars, even whilst driving alone.

I'm glad I've stopped driving, and traded my car in for a bird table.

Mind you, I never could manage to drive and smoke at the same time.

I had to pull over and stop...every mile or so.

:D

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And no doubt govt. will go along with this, and with much fanfare pass another bunch of laws to protect us from ourselves:rolleyes: (Same thing's happn' here by the way:mad:)

Why is it that governments which are so obviously inept at managing the economy, foreign and domestic policy, and national defence etc., consider themselves experts when it comes to health and safety, and political correctness.:confused:

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It is all about gaining absolute control over every aspect of our lives.
Democratic slavery is the best description of it.
When you vote them in you give your consent to pass laws on whatever takes their fancy.

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It is absolutely crazy for calls to be made to legislate against drivers smoking in their cars.
Who is going to enforce any such legislation? The police won't have time to do it.
Heck, I still see folk driving round with their mobile phones clamped to their ears....illegal, but not enforced greatly.

Poepel drinking in supposedly 'Alcohol Free' zones, with no enforcement...Ok, it is a little better in front of the market hall now there is nowhere for them to sit.
People dropping litte quite blatantly.......supposed to carry a hefty fine......do we see a list of people up before the beak because of this...No, of course we don't...why....? No-one to enforce it.

More Nanny state stuff......treating us like we are five.
Why don't they get down and sort out the real threat to this country...and the world.
I won't say what it is but it is two letters...both of them, vowels.

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The 'experiment' has been a roaring success then.

No benches = no chance a drinker may ever sit on one.

Remove 'em all!

Problem sorted.

;)

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another stupid "Sledgehammer to crack a Walnut" idea,:rolleyes: what about the person who lives alone, a solitary kind of person? they would not be allowed to smoke in own car, as well as being unenforceable its a ruddy daft idea. if evidence is available about the danger to others,then education is the answer not this stupidity, that won't work 100% nowt will, i notice daily though what a big effect the law on using mobiles when driving has made.:rolleyes:

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i dont smoke any more but if i did i wouldnt worry too much.Its not as though they enforce the mobile phone laws or booster seat laws is it .Neither do they enforce many of teh traffic laws thinking about it.

The only thing a motorist gets nicked by these days is a gloryfied polaroid camera .

Hey but as long as teh streets of other countries are safe courtesy of our governments who can complain about teh lack of law enforcement in our own country .

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Enjoy doing whatever in your cars, whilst you can.

There'll soon be orders issued from Berlin, that you're to scrap 'em, and buy some nice left-hand drive German ones instead.

Ready for when we're made to fall in line with the rest of Europe, and are forced to drive on the right.

;) :D

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if only there was some way of stopping this .There needs to be a system in place where the public get a say in the matter if you ask me ;)

More bullshine, We don't vote for Doctors and they are the one's putting this forward.

I do wish the tablets you buy off the internet did your mind some good.

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The chief medical officer(civil servant) is appointed by the government.
Chief Medical Officer : Department of Health - About us

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Well to be honest there should be no need for any new legislation, any parents who smoke in their car when kids are in are totally irresponsible as far as I'm concerned

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Thats what they make there money from is fags and beer they should just leave things as they are the goverment whats to sort them self,s out right before going on other things

Did you notice?
Is appointed by the government, NOT, voted in by the electorate.

Plus, in all the announcements on radio and television, the chief medical officer wasn't mentioned, they kept it nice and blurred by saying, Doctors, (To give the impression that all our Doctors had met for an evening out and agreed this is what should be done).

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It was some one from the GMC on breakie TV this morning Less

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A civil servant(chief medical officer) is an employee who follows the directives issued by the minister of the department.

When I heard it announced it was yesterday on the radio, maybe the fellow you saw is their scapegoat in case all goes pear shaped?

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We would never smoke in a car with children in. We wouldn't smoke in a car with non-smokers in(even though some say they wouldn't mind in our car).
But to stop us smoking when on our own? Toxins 23 times higher than in a smokey bar? Hell, I'm inhaling this stuff straight into my lungs(yes, I know, I heard it's not good for you).
Having been in smoky bars(literally- part of the atmosphere) I don't believe the 23 times, with the windows slightly open you can see it all being sucked out.
People who smoke in cars with children in will probably be the last people to obey such a law, they will probably do it whilst using their mobiles.
More nanny state. What are the police going to do, start stopping cars and sniffing inside for evidence?

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Apparently this is all to protect the children.

They would protect 10 times more children if they actually sterilised or castrated all the adults who have less than one brain cell and only use children as an excuse to drain the state of it's finances.

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less of the we please

My car my rules

dont like em

walk :D

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The 'we' is my wife and I. If we ever offer you a lift I'll make sure 'we' both light up ,turn the air off and shut the windows! I'll happily make an exception for you
-My car, I can change my rules.
Invisible smiley attached.

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You are half correct in your remark, Gordon, however, this is not a road safety issue, but a health issue. Parents who smoke in their car are just as likely to smoke in their homes with children present.

So, where do we go from there ? Send in an early morning raid into their homes with armed police with dousers ?

I'd like to see a step towards parents feeding their faces with cream cakes and fizzy drinks (whilst driving), therefore encouraging obesity.. well, could get that ridiculous. ! :D

By the way, Accyman, The B.M.A. are quoted as saying that opening your car window has no effect. !!

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It would if you threw the kids out of the open window before you light your fag :D

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if i ever offer you a lift just grab the rope attatched to the wing mirror and hold on tight :D:D:D:D

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well the BMA also allow a chemical banned in teh USA and most of europe to be put in our diet food and drinks so ill take what they say with a pinch of salt ;)

oh dear i sounded like whosit then :D

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Oi ... that's me mate.. she is not a 'Whosit';)

Personally, I don't think this will hit first base.

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I can see it now ... the copper standing there, all attitudinal, demanding to know who farted:rolleyes: CSI arriving to carry the evidence away in bottles. I wonder if farts contain DNA?:eek::D It's all so damn stupid ... I'm unable to take it seriously.

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would they who smelt it dealt it stand up as a viable defense in court ? :D

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I agree, katex, one is a road safety issue, one a health issue. Although if you have children in the back and crash whilst using your mobile, won't it become a health issue?
I can see the sense in banning smoking in cars with children although how you would enforce it I don't know. We keep getting these laws to stop irresponsible people being irresponsible- they just carry on as they are, the rest of us obey them-result-no result.

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As I'll have a rope in one hand and a cigarette in the other, will you hold out the ash tray for me?

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Maybe while the folks in the car weren't looking, a copper planted the evidence:eek:

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ashtray ?

you can use the road like the rest of us ..;)

oops no longer "us" iv given up but i sure wont be turning into one of those ex smoker nazis thats for sure :D

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'Yes, officer, I know the car stinks of smoke and the ash tray is full, but I'm not allowed to smoke in the house so on these cold snowy days I sit in the car on my drive on my own private land and smoke'.
How would that sound if I have to try it? Do you think I'd get away with it?

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That fellow was a woman;)

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Na Gordon I think that's defo five years, with time off for good behavior:D

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At least in prison I'll be able to smoke what I want(legal or illegal), where I want,when I want!
I know my human rights. Five years of peace from the do-gooders? Sounds good.

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Certainly treated better in prison better than some pensioners Gordon, Telly with Sky, hi fi, game boy nothings to good of these lads, no expense spared

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Don't forget the conjugal visits, Jaysay. Perhaps in prison I'd get lucky!

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Knowing my luck I'd get Rosa Klebb:D

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It makes me so angry when do gooders who seem to have more and more power over recent years and are certain they know best - intolerant bigots! - have the audacity to try to stop us from doing something in the privacy of our own vehicles which it is perfectly legal to purchase - I don't think the pollution caused by vehicles can do anyone much good but never mind just bully the smoker instead! And people who enjoy a drink, people who like chocolate and cake, people who don't exercise etc etc etc! In fact anyone who doesn't fit into their mould, they must be very boring to live with! I'm sure that the vast majority of the population are able to act responsibly without being told what to do by some young idiot! (Rant over now!)

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Well said!

I jog everywhere, avoid white fats, never eat chocolate or indeed snack at any time between my humanely boiled bowls of gruel, God! No wonder I'm too knackered to lift my pint and drag on my fag.

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Wandering off topic a little, but still addressing the "political correctness" thing:

Zack Hill Comic Strip on GoComics.com

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Love it, Eric. As one of the comments said: And this strip nailed the problem with our public education system in 2 simple panels.

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Less are you sure you're not a reincarnation of my dad? Sometimes you sound just like him. :rolleyes:

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Change the word 'vehicles, for 'clubs', and some might argue that's exactly what those who oppose Accrington's lap dance club are.

Intolerant, of what others are doing, in private.

Thinking they know best, about what others should be doing, or not.

:rolleyes:

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Then you would agree with the statement of our late PM, Pierre Trudeau: "The State has no business in the bedrooms of the nation".

Or, Mrs. Patrick Campbell: "My dear, I don't care what they do, as long as they don't do it in the street and frighten the horses.";)

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if you open a window then the smoke gets blown into the back, i remember this from when i was little, smoke and ash flying everywhere :(

it should be illegal to smoke in enclosed spaces near children, sadly people dont think about the risks to them :(

im an ex smoker btw, havent had a cigarrette for over 3 years :)

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Reformed sinners are always the worst!

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I thought I'd reply to this comment Garinda as I'm not sure whether it was a bit of a dig at my previous comments about the lap dancing club - I'm only against it because I think it's in the wrong place, not because I'm an intolerant do gooder - anyway I'm making this thread get confused with the lap dancing one so I'll shut up - I just wanted to make the point!

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See yer not thinking the big picture anne..........it won't offend the winos,cos theve moved the benches.:D:D