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Retlaw 17-12-2011 14:51

Fastest gun alive
 
Try beating this, it takes a lot of practice.
Retlaw.
Fastest gunman on planet. [VIDEO]
The link it to Wimp.com the vidio is about the fastest gunman

groove 17-12-2011 15:03

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Jeez....now that is faster than the human eye can see, didnt believe it till i saw it in slow motion....good stuff Mr.Retlaw

Gordon Booth 17-12-2011 15:24

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Astonishing,Retlaw! I could do six shots, on target at 25 yards, in just under six seconds and thought that was fast! Also that was double action or semi-auto.
I'm not sure if it's the muzzle blast which bursts the balloons, not the bullet, but the speed,especially with a single action gun is still remarkable!

walkinman221 17-12-2011 15:45

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Thats almost as fast as me when the wife asks for money:D

Retlaw 17-12-2011 19:27

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 956529)
Astonishing,Retlaw! I could do six shots, on target at 25 yards, in just under six seconds and thought that was fast! Also that was double action or semi-auto.
I'm not sure if it's the muzzle blast which bursts the balloons, not the bullet, but the speed,especially with a single action gun is still remarkable!

They are special ammo made to look like real ammo, but the bullet bursts after exiting the barrel, usually coal dust or sumat similar.
have you never tried real rapid fire in a comp,
5 targets which rotate, first round is 5 in 8 secs, then 5 in 6 secs & 5 in 4 secs,
Got 4 silver cups & a bronze medal for rapid fire.
There was a bloke named Ed McGivern who held the world record for a good number of years 5 bullets into a 1" circle at 15 feet in 4/10th of a sec, it happened so fast that the witnesses couldn't believe it, so he put a new target up and did it again.
He could also put a bullet thro a washer thrown up in the air, to prove it he stuck postage stamps over the hole in the washer.
I wonder how much ammo he used in practice.
Retlaw.

Gordon Booth 17-12-2011 19:58

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Originally Posted by Retlaw (Post 956572)
I wonder how much ammo he used in practice.

Five in four seconds?
You must have used a fair bit of ammo in practice yourself!

Boeing Guy 17-12-2011 20:04

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While this guy is very fast, Guns are designed to do one thing and one thing only, KILL someone.
I fail to see the attraction here.

Retlaw 17-12-2011 20:07

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 956577)
Five in four seconds?
You must have used a fair bit of ammo in practice yourself!

Aye, used to cast around 500 bullets a month, 145 grain lead antimony mix, on top of 4 grains of shotgun powder, as well as 100's of rounds of rifle anmmo, 180 grain Lapua ahead of 42 1/2 grains of RP no 2, very stable load out to 1100 yards.
Retlaw.

Retlaw 17-12-2011 20:15

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 956578)
While this guy is very fast, Guns are designed to do one thing and one thing only, KILL someone.
I fail to see the attraction here.

Aeroplanes were also designed to kill people, long before they carried passengers, just as not all planes are designed to kill, niether are guns, none of the guns, as you call them, I once owned ever killed any one.
Sounds like you've been brainwashed by the Blairites, and the mind fixers.

Retlaw

Boeing Guy 17-12-2011 20:20

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My favourite movie intro - Life of a bullet - YouTube

It won't play, you will need to click the You Tube link. But it is worth it.

Boeing Guy 17-12-2011 20:35

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Aircraft were not invented to kill. Guns were, I have no political view on this.

I fail to see why you compare a instrument designed to carry people, goods etc around the world can be compared to firearms.

What uses other than putting a hole in something, a animal or a human do firearms have

Mankind has adapted aircraft to carry weapons, bombs and even Nuclear explosives, however a aircraft can and is used for some of the most humanitarian gestures on the planet.

The simple fact remains, a firearm only has one use, killing, maiming or putting a hole into something.

I have not been brainwashed, but I think you have by the NRA

Retlaw
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none of the guns, as you call them, I once owned ever killed any one.
What do you mean, that we should call then Ice Cream Cones?
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Aeroplanes were also designed to kill people
eh no, Aeroplanes were designed to fly, if we had not had the First World War then they would have not been used in warfare, but of course they we no good on their own, they needed Firearms, bombs etc fitting in order to bring death.

I will not continue to debate this as there is no need, any rational person can see guns do no good, after all 60% of all homicides are committed by firearms (according to the United Nations)

Retlaw 17-12-2011 20:56

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I have not been brainwashed, but I think you have by the NRA

Retlaw
What do you mean, that we should call then Ice Cream Cones?
By their proper names, Muskets, Rifles, Pistols, Revolvers, etc, guns are smooth bore fire arms.
You are quoting the N.R.A. in america, its has nowt to do with the N.R.A. or N.S.R.A. of Gt Britain.
How many planes have been built to kill, compared with those designed to carry passengers.


Retlaw

Boeing Guy 17-12-2011 21:12

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How many planes have been built to kill, compared with those designed to carry passengers.
Okay :
312,000 Active General Aviation Aircraft, including Business Jets. 17,770 Passenger Aircraft 89,129 Military Aircraft 26,500 Civil Helicopters 29,700 Military Helicopters.
According to Flight International in service today worldwide
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How many firearms have done humanitarian good?
You cannot win this discussion, weapons are primary designed to kill, end of.

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Retlaw
What do you mean, that we should call then Ice Cream Cones?
By their proper names, Muskets, Rifles, Pistols, Revolvers, etc, guns are smooth bore fire arms.

Sorry to be pedantic, but
:

gun


Pronunciation: /gʌn/
noun

  • a weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.
  • a device for discharging a particular object or substance in a required direction: a grease gun
  • a starting pistol used in athletics.
  • the firing of a piece of artillery as a salute or signal: the boom of the one o’clock gun echoed across the river
  • chiefly North American a gunman: a hired gun
  • British a member of a shooting party.
  • (guns) Nautical slang, dated used as a nickname for a ship’s gunnery officer.
Oxford Dictionary.

Boeing Guy 17-12-2011 21:18

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Of course I should have known that having a opinion here would lead to attacks about my career
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Aeroplanes were also designed to kill people

Retlaw 17-12-2011 21:45

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[quote=Boeing Guy;956587]Okay :
312,000 Active General Aviation Aircraft, including Business Jets. 17,770 Passenger Aircraft 89,129 Military Aircraft 26,500 Civil Helicopters 29,700 Military Helicopters.
According to Flight International in service today worldwide.

How many firearms have done humanitarian good?
You cannot win this discussion, weapons are primary designed to kill, end of.



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Since avaiation took off there has been more aircraft built for warfare than for civilian use.
How many Spitfires Hurricanes, Blenhiems, Lancasters, Messerschmitts, Dorniers, Heinkels, Zero's etc, in just WW2 never mind all the other fights.
The first aircraft to carry more than one person were in WW1, first as Observers & Spotters, then when they started being shot at they armed themselves, first with shotguns, then with Rifles, and eventually Lewis, and Vickers Machine Guns.
As for Humanitarian use, ask a drowning sailor about line throwers, they are converted firearms.
You started it, by attacking one of my former hobbies.

Retlaw.

Boeing Guy 17-12-2011 21:49

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I simply expressed an Opinion, something I do from time to time, you decided to take offence and have since been on the attack, without once accepting that firearms are primary designed to kill people.
I am bored with this meaningless debate as it is impossible to reason with a person who will not listen to reason. good night.

Eric 17-12-2011 22:43

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The break down of the number of aircraft into the categories of "military" and "non-military" is really irrelevant. The fact that aircraft are used as killing machines is a resul of politics, economics, and, maybe, human psychology. But I do think that the two world wars and the Cold War helped accelerate the development of aeronautics and related technologies. Maybe this would have happened anyway as entrepreneurs competed to take economic advantage of heavier than air flight.

Boeing Guy 18-12-2011 08:54

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I could not agree more Eric, it generally takes wars to advance things, medicine for example as well. But it also advances the weapons we use to kill each other.

groove 18-12-2011 10:25

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Groove can see Mr.Boeings point of view. But there are such things as sports, albeit played by gentlemen who use the gun as a penis extention.

Gordon Booth 18-12-2011 10:59

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 956578)
Guns are designed to do one thing and one thing only, KILL someone.

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 956589)
Of course I should have known that having a opinion here would lead to attacks about my career

Archery. Fencing. The javelin. The discus. All Olympic sports, all based on weapons designed to kill.
Shooting at a clay pigeon. Shooting at a paper target. Same thing- a harmless sport or hobby( also Olympic).
Unless you object to all of these sports there is no difference between them
EXCEPT one of the instruments used is still in use by the military( and others with ill intent).
Ah, you say, but guns are more efficient at killing-try telling that to the French at Agincourt! Archery had its day.
I can't see where your career has been attacked-you're a civil aircraft pilot,Retlaw was a target shooter- a career and a hobby, both harmless.

groove 18-12-2011 11:06

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Groove thinks the discussion between B.G and Retlaw is quite childish.

***Mr D*** 18-12-2011 11:38

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Geez he is fast.

Another crack shot. check the reload speed

World Record 12 Shots In Under 3 Seconds - YouTube

Guns don't Kill People, People kill people.

Gordon Booth 18-12-2011 11:40

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Originally Posted by groove (Post 956648)
Groove can see Mr.Boeings point of view. But there are such things as sports, albeit played by gentlemen who use the gun as a penis extention.

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Originally Posted by groove (Post 956666)
Groove thinks the discussion between B.G and Retlaw is quite childish.

Groove rarely disappoints! Many mens sports/hobbies could be classed as that-how about driving a fast car fast? I don't think being a shooter would have the intended effect on a woman- my wife hated it, most women do. As an extension-not a good idea, painful!
Discussions about guns tend to get emotional, Boeing Guy and Retlaw are simply expressing strong opinions which they're entitled to but once it becomes emotional it can become illogical(as Mr. Spock would say).

Boeing Guy 18-12-2011 11:57

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Mr D
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Guns don't Kill People, People kill people.
By that reasoning.......

“Hydrogen bombs don’t kill people — people kill people. The bomb is for self-protection and it also has a deterrent effect. If somebody knows you have a nuclear weapon in your house, they’re going to think twice about breaking in.”
Art Buchwald (1925-2007)

Actually, I think they might have helped in Norway recently.
The problem is this, firearms were originally designed to make killing more efficient, now we have taken them and used them for sports, much like other weapons, I would rather watch athletics than archery, javelin etc.

The problem I have with firearms is this: we now live in a society that glamourises firearms, gansta rap, movies, you tube videos of people shooting.

I am not bringing emotions into this, I have no reason to do so.

Simply put, people will kill each other, no matter what we do, but the advent of guns makes it a whole lot easier to do so, as I said earlier 60% of the Worlds Homicides are committed by Firearms, source United Nations

Gordon Booth 18-12-2011 12:05

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 956681)
Mr D

By that reasoning.......

“Hydrogen bombs don’t kill people — people kill people. The bomb is for self-protection and it also has a deterrent effect. If somebody knows you have a nuclear weapon in your house, they’re going to think twice about breaking in.”
Art Buchwald (1925-2007)

Thats actually a reasonable conclusion. Without the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction there would almost certainly have been a Third World War with millions more killed by guns!

groove 18-12-2011 12:24

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It seemed to Groove that as soon as Mr.Boeing expressed a negative view about guns, Mr.Retlaw instantly started speaking negatively about aircraft.....Groove did indeed find the discussion a tad irrational.

Boeing Guy 18-12-2011 17:56

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Apparently I need to....''get a grip you prat'
I will not lower myself to this persons standards, rather sad really.

wallop79 18-12-2011 20:53

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 956786)
Apparently I need to....''get a grip you prat'
I will not lower myself to this persons standards, rather sad really.

I concur, whats your problem, someone shows a video clip that has left myself & probably others astounded & you've to rant on about guns killing people, well thanks for the fasinating fact I didn't know thats what guns did! So what, the guy in the video isn't killing anyone with his gun, why didn't you just accept the video for what it was?


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