Oaklea Pub
 

Another 'un bites the dust.

Now where will certain well known members of Accy Web go for their pre-match drinks?

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kin ell, when did it close? it was turned into a really nice pub

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Still open, I believe but whoever owns it has applied for planning permission to turn it into flats:

Case File

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I spoke to the owner on Tuesday.

The owner did the same thing 6 years ago. He has re-applied due to the fact that the existing application is about to expire. Also, HBC are shortly changing thier "Core Policy" on the planning application process. Thus, he wants to get his application in early.

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Blimey, the owner dont mess about, a bloody shame if its re-developed i was nearly born in that pub former WMC! Is the owner pushing for this development bit har har at the executive yuppy apartments ---in accy mmmmm.

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Wrong, Tealeaf, not flats, they're executive apartments whatever they are. Sound just right for Accy. ;)

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Is it the building across the road from the Post Office which used to be a Working men's club? If so, lovely old stone building -would make very nice flats. Shame another pub would be closing (though i don't remember it as a pub) -saw on the news yesterday about how country pubs are managing to survive by diversifying into shops.

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NOOOOO! :eek:

Must confer with Cashy and various other chaps urgently, as this will cause major disruption to our pre-match rituals. :(

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Executive apartments are flats with an extra nought on the price to keep out the riff raff. ;)

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In theory yeh, but some riff raff have pots of money.;)

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Who'd want to live in a posh flat on the thoroughfare for the local footy club ? Every 2nd Saturday hoards of ageing Yobboes, Hooglians & away fans padding past your yard, widdling on your Perennials & nicking or abusing your garden gnomes. lunacy I tell you, lunacy. :eek:

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If he already has PP on the building it runs out after 6 years so could just be renewing it just in case

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Hooglians :confused:

Are they special to Accy or are they what you have in Germany? :)

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Hooligans don't widdle.......they slash.:D

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Your more genteel & aged thugling (see Cashy, Wynn & the rest of the Clayton Ol' Contemptibles :D)

“quod erat demonstrandum”. The Cashmeister has marvellously confirmed my point ;)

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That's what he told me.

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If i can help somebody.:D

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For Legal Reasons can i just state that the OAKLEA HAS NOT CLOSED DOWN ta

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Its obvious two Jays think alike:D

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You have a way with words Dave. I was just thinking that hooglians sounded like something out of Gulliver's Travels when along you come with thugling - another wonderful coining which sounds just right for Cashy and Co., especially when you describe them as genteel and aged - just like one of your whiskies!

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I don't think they're from anywhere particular Sue, it's just something we grew up with. Folk mispronouncing things to make them less severe or a genuine slip, but they tend to stick in the mind & we still use them in our crowd. :)

Aye, I suppose the Cashmeister & Wynn are comparable to Whiskies in a way, a tad cheeky at first, then warming & mellow, companionable & somewhat moreish. (All in a Blokey, lets have a pint & go the game sort of way mind) ;)

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See yeh in oaklea Pre-Barnet mate.:);)

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Yep, Mr C, I was obviously panicking unnecessarily as usual! ;)

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You may not be panicking today, but the time for doing so will not be far off. Read the planning submission again and the stuff about the pub not being - nor likely to be - commercially viable. And why the need for detailed archchitect's plans if the proposal for change of use is only a possibility?

Still, if I move back to Accy I'll maybe buy one of them flats and you and Cashy can come round for a few jars before the game. That, of course, is if Stanley is still at the Crown. Maybe a move away from there would be the tipping point for the Oaklea to call last orders for the last time.

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That'll do me, Mr T. At least I'll be sure of getting some decent ale! ;)

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I've heard that Oaklea is not closing but is changing manager soon.

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I had a nice pint of Jennings last night Wyn, Speak Lifter 5.1% mate very tasty

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That's news to me. I am the current manager.

:confused::confused::confused:

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Well, let's just hope you remain the current manager. While silly rumours and nonsense can be ignored, what cannot be discounted is the detailed planning application lodged with HBC and which is viewable on their website. Personally, I think it's a tragedy when any pub closes and there are various reasons for that happening (which are for another thread).

Still, if the pub does get turned into flats then at least that is better than being turned into a fast food takeaway, a planning application I have just seen for another building further down Whalley Road. No more of these outlets should be allowed and if HBC has any sense it should start shutting down the existing ones on health grounds.

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Think somebody is now suffering from foot in gob syndrome:D

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and jay is a very good manager;)

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I am bemused by this. If it were a renewal, it would state 'extant' .. this doesn't. Also, PA's only last a period of 3 years for work to commence.

Could be that a similar application was submitted 6 years ago, but this looks like a completely new one to me, which would cost the owner quite a bit of money if his original one had expired.

Puzzled ... :confused:

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I thought it was 6 years Kate, but we don't have any councillors on here now to verify it;)

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Yawn yawn yawn. People moan when local amenities close down. But, ask yourself why.

Because most people would prefer to buy cheap drinks at the supermarket. The vast majority of pubs can't buy products for the same price as supermarkets sell them at.

R.E. the previous post............ Graham Jones doesn't care about the Oaklea or the job loses if it closes.

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It is a case of economics.........some people do not have the luxury of choice. Their financies are stretched, so obviously it makes sense to get your alcohol hit where it is cheapest.
The other option is to go out spend your money in the pubs, and not pay the rent?
Not rocket science.
When there is no money about, people cut back on treats like a night at the pub.

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The previous post yeh mentioned talks about councillors. Graham Jones left the council awhile ago to become M.P. Though at a post a year yeh may not be aware of that?:D:D

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Places like Weatherspoons appear to be managing ok. Some pubs are not viable to run so they close down. Others open up. Its just the way of business.

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Did re-look at this, Jaysay .... did used to be 5 years.

Nevertheless, Planning Permission has been granted.

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So it is still possible that the pub could be turned into flats.
The owner must be thinking about it or he would not have spent the money for planning permission twice.

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It is likely a tax deductable business expense and increases the value of the property IF he ever decides to sell.

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Nowt of the sort, check out new planning permission regs,;) he already got it when he purchased the property, was much much cheaper to renew than let it expire, its a fall back position simple as.;)

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Well that certainly makes sense

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Thought of that too, Margaret, lots of property/land owners do this. Applicant is a 'she' by the way, who appears to have set up a company called Woodland Homes Ltd., which was incorporated on 20/12/2012....maybe for this reason ? The title is interesting though.

Wasn't renewed, Cashy, completely new one.

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Eh which was incorporated on 20/12/2012.
I'm sure we've only got to March yet.

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Aw, shucks ....trust you to notice that ! 2011 ....:p
At least, showing an interest in my posts...LOL.

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I'm on the Planning committe and we passed this earlier on in the year. It was with some regret I have to say, it's never nice when a pub shuts down, especially one as good as the Oaklea, but times are a-changing.

The planning application was very impressive, however.

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Then typical; woman, telling porkies to the manager.:D

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Hope you don't mind me posting this but I have just been informed by management that the Oaklea has closed for good. :(

Would like to thank everyone for supporting the quiz over the years and to say that I am currently in the process of finding a new venue for Tuesdays........

Monday at the Crown continues as normal..................

Best Wishes to all Quizzers......

Syd

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I'm afraid the above post is correct, my son is one of the bar staff at the Oaklea & they have been told the news tonight - might have been an idea Syd to find out if the staff knew before publicly declaring the news - after all, these are people's jobs we are talking about - feel so sorry for Kate & Jay, good luck to the both of you if you read this

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I second that.

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i third that:(

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Very sorry to hear that. Always enjoyed pre-match drinks in there. All the best, Jay & Kate.

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Noticed it was closed on my way past today. Does this mean it is being tuned into apartments after all

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was only in on Mad Friday during my trip home at Christmas. Shame but its a sign of the times I'm afraid

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As some people will have heard by now, it is true that the Oaklea Tavern permanently closed it doors yesterday. The decision to do this came completely out of the blue & without warning.

The building currently being pulled to pieces from the inside out ready for it to be turn into flats.

Kate & myself would like to say a huge thank you to all of you that have supported us over the past 6 years. Not least to all our staff, without them we wouldn't have lasted 6 minutes, let alone 6 years.

We have met so many new friends & we wish we could thank you all personally.

We wish you all the best for the future & hopefully we will see you again soon.

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good luck Jay

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Good luck Jay

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The best of luck Jay.

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Fingers crossed that everybody finds new jobs quickly and a massive thanks to all quizzers for their phone calls and messages of support.

The quiz will transfer to Sydney Street WMC from the 29th January starting at the usual 9.00 pm. The format will be the same but there will be an entrance fee of £1.

End of an era, sadly, but hopefully the dawn of a new one........