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Tory Hypocrisy?
Have seen today Cameron calling fer the jocks to have a referendum on Independence, also seems to think they should have a straight Yes or No, n also relatively quicker than Mr Salmon would like it!. Funny how like the Labour Party,he will not give the British one on the E.U. also i recall someone saying a referendum would take about 2 years to organise, Well according to him,thats unless it happens to be the Jocks.:rolleyes: This smacks of hypocrisy to me, n demonstrates once again to me, how they are all as bad as each other.:(
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I think Cameron is trying to call the SNP's bluff...and yes it does smack of hypocrisy.. the whole of Parliment shoud vote on wether there should be any referendum on Independence..but failing that I hope he is serious and demands a straight yes/no vote.
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The rest of the UK countries should beat the Scots to it and have their own referendum on whether they want Scotland to be part of the Union or not.
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I think he's right to ask for a quick referendum on Scotland, the only thing is it should be open to all the UK. I'm sure if that was the case it would be an overwhelming yes vote, after all if they want free prescriptions, education etc. let them pay for it out of taxed raised in Scotland not on the backs of the rest of the UK and that goes for Wales too
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I think that you have called it right there Cashy. Hypocrisy is the word, plain and simple.
However, I do think that the Scots should be given a referendum on whether they want to remain a part of the UK. I agree with Cameron that it should be a simple in - out question. This idea of independence 'lite' can never work and will only serve to cause more resentment than there exists at present. If the Scots want to go, let them, and good riddance to them. As I posted some time ago, an out vote in a referendum will advance the cause of a referendum on England's membership of the EU, since all treaties will have to be renegotiated once the United Kingdom is no longer United. |
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And if Scotland wants to stay in the EU it will have to re-apply as a new member, and as such it would be forced to adopt the Euro as currency....now isn't that just enought to put them off?
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here we go dinosaur politics you will find if there was a referendum the answer would be no, as most people in scotland and england have relations in each country or descended from each other.the snp have a vocal following who infaltrate every website going to make them sound popular.they try and make out they are more scottish the you if you disagree with them.ive had a few run in with sepratists but when you confront them by asking policies or will we pay more taxes they try and attack you the alex salmond way .they are just a bunch of little scotlanders with a nazi atitude.the canny scottish public have only voted for the snp as there has been a council tax freeze for the last 5 years;):D
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I think the possibility that they would have to re-apply to the EU to gain membership, if that was what they wanted(after all, they might be given some say in the matter....while we poor burgers have to lump it) and doing so would force them into the single currency...might just put them off. |
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I think it has been mentioned before in this thread, politicians only opt for a referendum if they feel they are going to get the answer they want. I am sure Alex Salmond would not be advocating a referendum if he thought that the answer would be 'NO'. |
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In a word, YES.
It is an unnecessary expense...and one which could be ditched. |
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They could always turn it into a Mosque...or executive apartments.
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a waste of money in my eyes comic book politics a bunch of under raters coining it in.i hate the snp and all what it stands for ..united we stand divided we fall dinosaur politics by taking the country backwards instead of forwards..
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Hey, just think of the positives for Scottish Independence, 59 MPs would be made unemployed, 41 being Labour (which will no doubt please some people on this forum).
Personally, I'm in favour of Scottish Independence as I own shares in a flag making company. And I also want independence for the North of England. |
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i think we should have a referndum to see if England wants to be a part of the UK or not :)
Seems to me just like been part of euorpe Englands primary job is to hand out free stuff to other countries.Maybe if we wernt part of the UK we wouldnt feel obiged to honour the UK's agreements and get the hell out of europe :D |
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If cmonstanley is right and the result of any referendum would be to maintain the union, can we hope then the the Scots would drop the chipiness and the perpetual sense of victimhood?
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If they vote to retain the Union, it will be like the old saying..... Can't live with 'em, can't live without 'em! |
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They do plan to wait till after Wimbledon before they decided, don't they?
Wouldn't like to have waited all my lifetime to see a British man win, only for it to be an independant Scotsman. I'm betting on Murray this year now he's got Lendl as coach.:D |
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Interesting comment on the issue in the Telegraph and one that Call-me-Dave would do well to take notice of...
"I believe it's important for the English to have as little to do with this as possible, otherwise if it all goes pear-shaped it will all be our fault. Let the Scots make the running" |
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I wonder if any of you lot know the story of how the Jocks managed to get a couple of Panda bears shipped over to Edinburgh Zoo? I doubt if it is many of you, but it’s an interesting tale; to cut my typing short, I've stuck a few links in which give some of the detail.
Anyway, here we go. The Nobel Peace Prize, as you are aware, is awarded by a committee of five Norwegian parliamentarians (the other Nobel’s are awarded by the Swedes). Two years ago, the prize was awarded to the human rights campaigner, Liu Xiaobo. As you can guess, he's Chinese and his government were not exactly happy bunnies over this. So peeved off were they that they retaliated by effectively blocking the export of Norwegian salmon to China. Read about it here: AFP: Norwegian salmon off the menu in China The only other major supplier of farmed Atlantic salmon is, of course, Scotland. Now, you would have assumed that Scotland, being a good neighbour of Norway and sharing many of its maritime bounties, would have sought not to take advantage of this. There are, after all, certain principles at stake. But that is not quite what happened. Read on: BBC News - Chinese appetite for Scottish salmon leaps As part of the deal, Salmon got his Pandas. Anyway, if there is a lesson to this story, it's this: Never thrust the Jocks - they are as morally bankrupt as they are financially and the sooner we have a referendum in England on whether to continue our union with them, the better. Lets end it now and the only question that will then remain will be how high we build the frontier walls to keep 'em out . |
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...and I'll stick to the Norwegian stuff.
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Must admit, it does seem a bit ironic that he's prepared to let the Scots decide their future & allegiances but the English don't get a say in their own future. Still as to the Jocks & their plans, it appears it won't be the damned English throwing spanners in the works :-
Spain could wield veto over Scotland's EU membership - UK Politics - UK - The Independent |
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And British Embassies around the world would cease to promote Scottish products.
It may seem a pretty small knock, but it would still have an economic effect. |
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The Scots are stuck with us and want to get away. The Falkland Islanders are wanted by someone else but want to stay with us......
...could we possibly give Scotland to the Argies? Just a thought. :( |
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What have the Argies done to deserve lumbering them with Scotland?
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Yeah but c'mon.....No, you are right! (it was the C'mon that swung it) :D:D
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Anyone thought about the clocks not having to go back or forward if Scotland got independence?
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