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Restless 04-04-2012 15:00

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they might be for those in F/O areas :(

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 982472)
What has that got to do with the government?
Virginmedia are doing it themselves at their cost because, in my opinion, they are the best ISP in the UK


kestrelx 04-04-2012 15:05

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 982472)
What has that got to do with the government?
Virginmedia are doing it themselves at their cost because, in my opinion, they are the best ISP in the UK

Yeh that's the wrong link! The government are putting in several millions to speed up broad band it was in the March budget! :)

Margaret Pilkington 04-04-2012 16:45

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I can't quite see how this would improve the the practical problem of monitoring everyone who has a broadband connection.

jaysay 04-04-2012 17:14

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 982482)
they might be for those in F/O areas :(

Its not very good in my area Restless, theres no cable at all round my neck of the woods;)

jaysay 04-04-2012 17:17

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 982493)
I can't quite see how this would improve the the practical problem of monitoring everyone who has a broadband connection.

Legislation or no legislation, if your using the Internet for terrorist activities and are known to the authorities they'll still keep tabs on you no matter what:jimbo:

MargaretR 04-04-2012 17:41

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 982498)
Its not very good in my area Restless, theres no cable at all round my neck of the woods;)

I think that you are wrong.
Cable is available at my flat - I ordered it as I moved here, and only cancelled because they botched the date, leaving me with no telephone for the week I was moving in.

jaysay 04-04-2012 17:46

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 982512)
I think that you are wrong.
Cable is available at my flat - I ordered it as I moved here, and only cancelled because they botched the date, leaving me with no telephone for the week I was moving in.

Don't think they got as far as my place Margaret, because I actually tried to get Virgin some time ago and they said they could install in my flat as there was no service available, can't remember it changing

MargaretR 04-04-2012 17:51

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 982514)
Don't think they got as far as my place Margaret, because I actually tried to get Virgin some time ago and they said they could install in my flat as there was no service available, can't remember it changing

I checked -
Virgin Media Packages From £6 - Compare Prices for April 2012

strange that they didn't cable there.

jaysay 04-04-2012 17:57

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 982515)
I checked -
Virgin Media Packages From £6 - Compare Prices for April 2012

strange that they didn't cable there.

Well it says its available, but I certainly can't remember any upgrades round here, they went right past the end of Mallard Place in the nineties and I enquired about broadband within the last 4 years and they said no can do, strange very strange

MargaretR 04-04-2012 18:02

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It Isn't available
"Virgin Media is not available in BB5 3SY"

jaysay 04-04-2012 18:07

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 982521)
It Isn't available
"Virgin Media is not available in BB5 3SY"

Thanks Margaret, thought I was going round the bend, knew it wasn't available only recently

Margaret Pilkington 04-04-2012 19:07

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 982499)
Legislation or no legislation, if your using the Internet for terrorist activities and are known to the authorities they'll still keep tabs on you no matter what:jimbo:

Yes John, but that is very different to being able(physically) to monitor every visit to a website, every e-mail and mobile phone call/text message by every person who has internet facilities ........and done in real time. Now that would take some doing. I don't believe the resources exist to do it.........the hardware may exist, but it takes manpower to determine what is worth pursuing and what is not.

Mancie 04-04-2012 19:28

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 982546)
Yes John, but that is very different to being able(physically) to monitor every visit to a website, every e-mail and mobile phone call/text message by every person who has internet facilities ........and done in real time. Now that would take some doing. I don't believe the resources exist to do it.........the hardware may exist, but it takes manpower to determine what is worth pursuing and what is not.

I think there is some of confusion here about how the new regulations will work.. the government will force all ISP's to store data of website visits, e.mail usage etc of everyone who uses the internet for at least 2 years.. on request this information will be given to various government agencies and maybe given to some private companies..no extra manpower is needed because the ISP's to do all the work. :cool:

Gordon Booth 04-04-2012 19:59

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 982546)
Yes John, but that is very different to being able(physically) to monitor every visit to a website, every e-mail and mobile phone call/text message by every person who has internet facilities ........and done in real time. Now that would take some doing. I don't believe the resources exist to do it.........the hardware may exist, but it takes manpower to determine what is worth pursuing and what is not.

Margaret, it doesn't need massive resources of manpower- the hardware and its software do it for them and will highlight anyone who needs 'attention'.
Visiting certain websites, using certain words, phrases,names will make your activity become highlighted, they can then ask the ISP for full details.
To cut down on unnecessary work they can use combinations of all the above to increase their confidence in a good 'hit'.
I'm all for whatever it takes to improve our security but the mass surveillance of the whole population is going too far.
If it comes in I think there will be some very surprised innocent citizens getting 6am visits and needing new front doors!

Margaret Pilkington 04-04-2012 20:09

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 982554)
I think there is some of confusion here about how the new regulations will work.. the government will force all ISP's to store data of website visits, e.mail usage etc of everyone who uses the internet for at least 2 years.. on request this information will be given to various government agencies and maybe given to some private companies..no extra manpower is needed because the ISP's to do all the work. :cool:

I understand that the ISP's have to retain the information for two years, but I'm sure I read that the surveillance that was going to be used would access information about who was using what sites in 'real time'

I am aware that the surveillance agency will not be able to view the content of the communication....only that the communication exists.
If it is something that is thought to be a security risk, then further legal powers will have to be exercised to view the communication.


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