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cmonstanley 28-02-2012 13:30

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i cant believe this is happening in twenty first century britain BBC News - 'Sheds with beds' are London's modern day slums and with less civil servants to implement law its only going to get worse:eek:

Margaret Pilkington 28-02-2012 13:32

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Why start a new thread for this? You usually put this kind of stuff into the tories thread, don't you?

cmonstanley 28-02-2012 13:37

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this deserves a thread on its own and a local council thing with planning permission etc

cashman 28-02-2012 13:38

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If yeh can't believe this is happening, yer living in a dream world,:rolleyes: Things like this have always gone on, remember cardboard city, That was worse than sheds, wish i'd led such a sheltered life.:rolleyes:

garinda 28-02-2012 14:29

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This has been happening in London for a number of years.

Most of the shed dwellers are migrants from eastern Europe.

The problem arose when Labour agreed to an open borders policy.

Subsequently three million people migrated into Britain, in the thirteen years Labour were in power.

No figure is known for those who entered the country illegally, under the same time scale.

More than three million migrants under Labour - Telegraph

These aren't Britons, who've lost their homes.

They are economic migrants, who decided to relocate to one of the most expensive cities in the world, and who've decided life at the bottom of someone's garden, is preferable to living in eastern Europe.

London's streets might not be paved with gold.

But with our generous welfare system, it is seen by some as the Land of Milk and Honey.

We make choices.

They have.

Acrylic-bob 28-02-2012 14:43

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973584)
i cant believe this is happening in twenty first century britain BBC News - 'Sheds with beds' are London's modern day slums and with less civil servants to implement law its only going to get worse:eek:

What do you suggest we do about it?

Should we have someone from the council nip round with the keys to council houses for them?

Turf them all out of their sheds onto the streets?

Or perhaps we could get the Borders Agency to do a bit of overtime and round them all up for deportation?

What is your solution ?

garinda 28-02-2012 14:58

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I'd have love a shed in leafy Hampstead, when I first moved to London.

I was forced to live in Streatham.

Try getting a cab to take you south of the river, late on.

That was real degradation.

garinda 28-02-2012 15:31

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973584)
i cant believe this is happening in twenty first century britain BBC News - 'Sheds with beds' are London's modern day slums and with less civil servants to implement law its only going to get worse:eek:

You ought to get out a bit more.

Leave your bothy. (Basically a Scottish shed, for those not in the know.)

Travel a little.

When I lived in Glasgow, 2001-2004, at which time I believe we had a Labour government, there were tons of people living under the bridges over the Clyde.

They'd have loved a nice warm shed, situated in the balmy metropolis, to live in.

They only had smack, and the warmth of their own wee-wee, to keep them snug.

Acrylic-bob 28-02-2012 15:33

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 973606)

I was forced to live in Streatham.

Oh! The ignominy. How did you bear it? Today's young know nothing of our struggles.

Gordon Booth 28-02-2012 15:38

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Now we know where hundreds of illegal immigrants are is it beyond the wit of the Metropolitan Police and Border Agency to round them up and send them home- it looks like they might be better off there.
Interesting that they said they were being ripped off and exploited by people from their own country-any comment, cmon?

garinda 28-02-2012 15:46

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 973612)
Oh! The ignominy. How did you bear it? Today's young know nothing of our struggles.

It was a struggle, but I just got on with it.

Though it was in the glitzy mansion of a millionaire friend of my parents.

Ossy lad done good, on the back of filth.

But still, Streatham!

Cynthia Payne popping round to borrow the hose pipe...for God knows what.

Never knowing if you'd wake up to find Lord Montague of Beaulieu chatting to Alan Bates, perched on the end of your bed...again.

Not knowing if that Paul Grady might be loitering in the kitchen, with Michael Cashman and Ian McKellen.

Six years I suffered.

I couldn't wait until I moved out.

To Tooting.

:D

garinda 28-02-2012 15:52

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People save up round here, and hope they live long enough, to live in a shed, down the Ribble Valley.

Or as they call them, retirement village chalets.

Acrylic-bob 28-02-2012 15:56

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 973616)

To Tooting.

:D

So it was out of the frying pan into the fire then. My heart breaks for you darling.

Boeing Guy 28-02-2012 15:56

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They arn't Dog Stabbers by any chance????:D

garinda 28-02-2012 16:06

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 973621)
So it was out of the frying pan into the fire then. My heart breaks for you darling.

The flat came with the office.

When I took over as leader, of the Tooting Poplular Front.

Up the Lido!

cashman 28-02-2012 16:11

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Just occurred to me...... So what if it does get worse? What do illegals n the like deserve cmon? Housing? Please tell us.:rolleyes:

jaysay 28-02-2012 17:53

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The thing is I don't know C'mon from Adam, but I'm pretty sure I'd recognise him if I met him in the street, he'd be the one with a very bad limp, he's shot himself in the foot so many times. I'm sure he never really thinks anything out before falling over himself to post on here:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 28-02-2012 18:03

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 973627)
Just occurred to me...... So what if it does get worse? What do illegals n the like deserve cmon? Housing? Please tell us.:rolleyes:

Now Cashy, don't be holding your breath while you wait.
That question is far to hard for him to get to grips with.

cashman 28-02-2012 18:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 973653)
Now Cashy, don't be holding your breath while you wait.
That question is far to hard for him to get to grips with.

I realise that,but he did raise the subject.:rolleyes:

Less 28-02-2012 18:14

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 973654)
I realise that,but he did raise the subject.:rolleyes:

Perhaps if you were to put forward a solution, he could copy and paste it?

jaysay 28-02-2012 18:49

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 973656)
Perhaps if you were to put forward a solution, he could copy and paste it?

Cashy wouldn't get it published in the Guardian Less, for him copy and past:rolleyes:

cmonstanley 28-02-2012 19:13

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i would employ more people and speed up the process of people wanting to leave as it says in the article people cant leave because the process is too slow;)

Margaret Pilkington 28-02-2012 19:14

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You mean that these people want to leave????? Only if they can take their benefits with them!

cashman 28-02-2012 19:22

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973704)
i would employ more people and speed up the process of people wanting to leave as it says in the article people cant leave because the process is too slow;)

Complete nonsense they have destroyed I.D.s so they couldnt be deported,:rolleyes:

Gordon Booth 28-02-2012 19:24

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973704)
i would employ more people and speed up the process of people wanting to leave as it says in the article people cant leave because the process is too slow;)

cmon, you don't even listen to your own attachment-there's no mention of a slow process and on the news tonight it said we can't send them home because they destroyed all their papers and passports when they got here so they can't prove who they are.
Also the Indian Government officials are not co-operating,looks like they don't want them back!

Tealeaf 28-02-2012 19:34

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You may as well read this here before you read it in the national press or see it on the BBC.

Given the scale of London's problem - an estimated 450,000 kipping in sheds, under railway arches, in garages, etc, in the capital - Mayor Boris has agreed with a number of northern local authorities to share the burden. In return for 72 tickets for the Olympic 100 metres men's final (for councillors and partners), HBC will be taking 3,529 individuals to be dispersed throughout the borough. Many of these will be placed in allotment sheds (which goes towards explaining the rise in rents). All tenants will be expected to fully cooperate with the council and ensure their sub-tenants are well looked after with full consideration for their ethnic, cultural and religious needs. Most sheds will therefore have to be repositioned so that they point towards Mecca and be fully carpeted throughout (Axminster preferred). Naturally, no pigs will be allowed.

The formal announcement will be made this Friday, after HBC council prayers.

Margaret Pilkington 28-02-2012 19:49

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Tealeaf, you shouldn't be giving the powers that be ideas like that.......They might just do it!

cmonstanley 28-02-2012 20:44

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but david cameron promised ,no ifs no buts on immigration:rolleyes: just as i have explained through the years the tories alway do the opposite to what they are saying.

yerself 28-02-2012 20:46

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington
You mean that these people want to leave?????

Apparently so Margaret. Have a read at this from the BBC website.

BBC News - The illegal immigrants desperate to escape squalor of Britain

garinda 28-02-2012 21:05

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973704)
i would employ more people and speed up the process of people wanting to leave as it says in the article people cant leave because the process is too slow;)

The problem with many of them is their own country's High Commission.

They aren't in any hurry to have them back.

Perhaps you should volunteer, and go and lend them a hand.

I can give you the address of a very nice shed in Streatham.

garinda 28-02-2012 21:09

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973704)
the tories alway do the opposite to what they are saying.

As opposed to Labour?

Who simply told lies.

cashman 28-02-2012 22:51

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 973769)
As opposed to Labour?

Who simply told lies.

Well Cmon sure as hell aint doin em any favours.:rolleyes:

Boeing Guy 29-02-2012 08:12

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973704)
i would employ more people........

I get it, we cannot make cuts to encourage growth, but we can spend our way out of debt.:D

jaysay 29-02-2012 08:29

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973754)
but david cameron promised ,no ifs no buts on immigration:rolleyes: just as i have explained through the years the tories alway do the opposite to what they are saying.

Ya and in 97 the cry was things can only get better, take a look at the dogs breakfast they left when Gordon was kick out on his butt before he could turn our country into a fully fledged banana republic, the only thing Labour have ever done when leaving office is leave the country in a hell of a worse state than when the took over.

jaysay 29-02-2012 08:34

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 973846)
I get it, we cannot make cuts to encourage growth, but we can spend our way out of debt.:D

Must be a scottish thing BG, Gordon, Alistair, RBS, Craig Whyte, not right good with money matters are they:rolleyes:

Boeing Guy 29-02-2012 08:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 973849)
Ya and in 97 the cry was things can only get better, take a look at the dogs breakfast they left when Gordon was kick out on his butt before he could turn our country into a fully fledged banana republic, the only thing Labour have ever done when leaving office is leave the country in a hell of a worse state than when the took over.

Now Jay, you have to remember that according to C'mon the world did not start until May 2010, after all he has NEVER said a bad thing about the Labour Government while they were in power:eek:

jaysay 29-02-2012 08:47

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 973851)
Now Jay, you have to remember that according to C'mon the world did not start until May 2010, after all he has NEVER said a bad thing about the Labour Government while they were in power:eek:

:eek::eek:BG I'm shocked by that statement, your not saying that C'Mon is a tad blinkered are you:eek:

Less 29-02-2012 08:58

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 973854)
:eek::eek:BG I'm shocked by that statement, your not saying that C'Mon is a tad blinkered are you:eek:

Yes, he got his from the same store that you purchased your's, (though being a labourite, he bought the economy set).

I believe yours come with a thirteen year guarantee?

cmonstanley 29-02-2012 09:07

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United Kingdom Unemployment Rate fact tories = unemployment

jaysay 29-02-2012 09:12

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973858)
United Kingdom Unemployment Rate fact tories = unemployment

I have been told by the mods that post such as this would be treated as spam, funny that

Less 29-02-2012 09:29

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 973859)
I have been told by the mods that post such as this would be treated as spam, funny that

If you know your post is spam, why did you put it on?

jaysay 29-02-2012 09:39

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:130:
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 973862)
If you know your post is spam, why did you put it on?

The trouble is I didn't think it was, it sure had more accompanied wording than the last attempt from North of the Border

cmonstanley 29-02-2012 11:52

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ohh and benefit cheats will really be shakking in their boots http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/n...ote=1&p=973863 who is looking through with a fine tooth comb:D:D:D:D ids you sacked half of the civil service off if you remember and are stealing their pensions.. he really is an idiot:eek:

cashman 29-02-2012 12:18

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973879)
he really is an idiot:eek:

Well they do say it takes one to know one.:D

accyman 29-02-2012 12:26

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973754)
but david cameron promised ,no ifs no buts on immigration:rolleyes: just as i have explained through the years the tories alway do the opposite to what they are saying.

as does labour MP graham jones.

Infact im pretty sure there isnt one single MP in todays bunch that has kept tehir election prommises or backed up what they say they will do

Gordon Booth 29-02-2012 15:35

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 973879)
ohh and benefit cheats will really be shakking in their boots http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/n...ote=1&p=973863 who is looking through with a fine tooth comb:D:D:D:D ids you sacked half of the civil service off if you remember and are stealing their pensions.. he really is an idiot:eek:

cmon, what are you drinking? First- your post is gobbledygook, second- your attachment takes me to a reply box!
Drink some strong coffee and start again.

Margaret Pilkington 29-02-2012 16:07

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thank you Gordon....I was going to post something along similar lines, but to be honest I couldn't be bothered...the man never listens to anything other than sensationalist rhetoric anyway.

cashman 29-02-2012 16:10

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Yeh aint learnt lesson 1 yet Gordon.........Ignore his links.:D

Boeing Guy 29-02-2012 17:15

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 973902)
cmon, what are you drinking? First- your post is gobbledygook, second- your attachment takes me to a reply box!
Drink some strong coffee and start again.

Gordon you would have more sense in trying to get your head around Yes lryics.
Eg: Going for the One
"Get the idea cross around the track
Underneath the flank of thoroughbred racing chasers.
Getting the feel as a river flows.
Would youlike to go 'n shoot the mountain masses?
And here you stand no taller than the grass sees.
And should you really chase so hard.
The truth of sport plays rings around you."

And for that matter much more enjoyment:p

jaysay 29-02-2012 17:35

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Originally Posted by Boeing Guy (Post 973915)
Gordon you would have more sense in trying to get your head around Yes lryics.
Eg: Going for the One
"Get the idea cross around the track
Underneath the flank of thoroughbred racing chasers.
Getting the feel as a river flows.
Would youlike to go 'n shoot the mountain masses?
And here you stand no taller than the grass sees.
And should you really chase so hard.
The truth of sport plays rings around you."

And for that matter much more enjoyment:p

Can't fault that BG, and you don't need a scotch lilt either:D

Acrylic-bob 29-02-2012 17:40

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A little thing, off topic but who cares, it's for a friend....

Genesis - Entangled - YouTube

Gordon Booth 29-02-2012 18:02

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 973907)
Yeh aint learnt lesson 1 yet Gordon.........Ignore his links.:D

Now cashman, perhaps one of these days, when he's forgotten where he left the bottle, he'll have a half hour of sobriety and start a thread or do a post of such brilliance we'll be stunned!
Think, if you don't try to read them all you might just miss that one gem!

cashman 29-02-2012 19:29

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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 973934)
Now cashman, perhaps one of these days, when he's forgotten where he left the bottle, he'll have a half hour of sobriety and start a thread or do a post of such brilliance we'll be stunned!
Think, if you don't try to read them all you might just miss that one gem!

Oh i used to many moons ago Gordon, to be honest think i'd find more gems on Whinney Hill Tip.:D


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