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jaysay 05-03-2012 09:43

Putin reelected
 
BBC News - Russia election 'clearly skewed' for Putin - OSCE

Vladimir Putin has been re-elected as President of Russia by gaining 63% of the vote. I seems not everybody is happy with the result as they're saying it was rigged, how can it be rigged its well known the the result has been safely stashed away in the safe at the Kremlin for the last 12 months:D

Neil 05-03-2012 09:51

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Is it this years election he is celebrating or next years? :rolleyes::D

cashman 05-03-2012 10:59

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Putin will remain in power,as long as he wishes, Unlike Saddam no-one has the balls to invade Russia.:rolleyes:

MargaretR 05-03-2012 11:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 975242)
Putin will remain in power,as long as he wishes, Unlike Saddam no-one has the balls to invade Russia.:rolleyes:

Maybe no-one needs to.
Tsar Nicholas thought he was invincible too.
There have been mass rallys protesting - will be more now he has 'won'(allegedly)

garinda 05-03-2012 12:44

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Thatcher evicted from Downing Street.

The Queen losing Britannia.

Putin winning a dodgy election.

Tears for souvenirs.

I found it very moving too.

http://www.zoklet.net/images/smilies/crying.gif

:rolleyes:

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2012 13:05

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The Russians have a strange relationship with those who rule them. Quite masochistically they like to be dominated by men who are not afraid to flex their muscles and the more literally they can do this, the more popular they are. One of the reasons that the late Tsar failed was because he was too nice. The revolution would never have happened in his fathers reign, he would have hanged the lot of them, evidence or not. Russians respect that sort of decisiveness. This is the reason that Medvedev was not re-elected. This is the reason for Putin's ridiculous macho posing, but, as long as he has his physical health, he will succeed. Mental health in Russian rulers has never been much of a drawback.

garinda 05-03-2012 13:16

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Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 975280)
Mental health in Russian rulers has never been much of a drawback.

Yes, Russia's the only place in the world where they celebrate an outbreak of potato blight.

Knowing it will make their vodka even more mentally exciting.

kestrelx 05-03-2012 13:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 975242)
Putin will remain in power,as long as he wishes, Unlike Saddam no-one has the balls to invade Russia.:rolleyes:

With everything that's been going on in the Middle East - this will probably sow the seeds of discontent and demonstrations in Russia!

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2012 13:23

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 975286)
With everything that's been going on in the Middle East - this will probably sow the seeds of discontent and demonstrations in Russia!

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". Carl Jung



Seldom has there been spoken a truer word.

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2012 13:27

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But back to Russia. I find it worrying that despite killing upwards of 20 million of his own people. There are still a frightening number of people, of all age groups, in Russia who think that Josef Stalin was a good idea.

claytonx 05-03-2012 13:34

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975231)
BBC News - Russia election 'clearly skewed' for Putin - OSCE

Vladimir Putin has been re-elected as President of Russia by gaining 63% of the vote. I seems not everybody is happy with the result as they're saying it was rigged, how can it be rigged its well known the the result has been safely stashed away in the safe at the Kremlin for the last 12 months:D

Must have come as a complete surprise.

garinda 05-03-2012 13:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 975292)
But back to Russia. I find it worrying that despite killing upwards of 20 million of his own people. There are still a frightening number of people, of all age groups, in Russia who think that Josef Stalin was a good idea.

He might have been a bit of a lad, especially when it came to genocide, but you've got to admire the quality of his Mint Balls.

Wigan has a lot to thank Russia for.

If it wasn't for them being allowed to manufacture them, as well as Pol Pot pies, there'd be no jobs at all in the area.

accyman 05-03-2012 13:52

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i heard tony blair was standing at the next elections in russia

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2012 15:34

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 975304)
i heard tony blair was standing at the next elections in russia

What as?

cashman 05-03-2012 16:09

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 975246)
Maybe no-one needs to.
Tsar Nicholas thought he was invincible too.
There have been mass rallys protesting - will be more now he has 'won'(allegedly)

Maybe but they will soon be squashed is my bet.

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2012 17:40

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Alexander II was killed in St Petersburg by an anarchists bomb. His Son, Alexander III,father of Nicholas II, is reported as saying, when the culprits had been aprehended and condemned to death, "No one will dare to come to me to ask for mercy". And nobody did, except Leo Tolstoy, but everybody usually ignored him anyway.

Point is, nothing ever really changes. If anyone is looking for revolution as a result of this election they will have a long and futile wait. Protests will be permitted, for a while. But slowly and surely the ringleaders will be identified and rounded up and silenced. Russia will march forward, backward or sideways, however Putin determines, and it will all be back to business as usual tomorrow.

jaysay 05-03-2012 18:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 975304)
i heard tony blair was standing at the next elections in russia

Your joking aren't you, he'd have to abandon the gravy train he's been riding since 2007:rolleyes:

Acrylic-bob 05-03-2012 18:29

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If there's a couple of bob in it, he'll be there.

MargaretR 05-03-2012 18:38

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When the very rich realise that their greed for money is providing comfort but not bliss, they begin to seek the power and control over others to satisfy their egos.

jaysay 05-03-2012 18:48

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 975412)
When the very rich realise that their greed for money is providing comfort but not bliss, they begin to seek the power and control over others to satisfy their egos.

Give it up Margaret, your never going to do that no matter how much you try:D:D

cashman 05-03-2012 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Acrylic-bob (Post 975354)
Alexander II was killed in St Petersburg by an anarchists bomb. His Son, Alexander III,father of Nicholas II, is reported as saying, when the culprits had been aprehended and condemned to death, "No one will dare to come to me to ask for mercy". And nobody did, except Leo Tolstoy, but everybody usually ignored him anyway.

Point is, nothing ever really changes. If anyone is looking for revolution as a result of this election they will have a long and futile wait. Protests will be permitted, for a while. But slowly and surely the ringleaders will be identified and rounded up and silenced. Russia will march forward, backward or sideways, however Putin determines, and it will all be back to business as usual tomorrow.

Exactly what ive been saying with many less words.:D;)

garinda 05-03-2012 22:56

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What I could never understand about Russia, since the fall of the Soviet system is this.

One minute your looky-likey Brezhnev wife is rubbing a blackened Brussel sprout around her eyes, in place of mascara, and you'd happily exchange your first born son for a pair of Levis, or a Pink Floyd album.

Literally within a couple of years, your wife's a supermodel, you're now a squillionaire oligarch, and you own more impressive array of boats than most countries navies.

How that all happen?

From bread queue to capitalist captain, in twenty four easy monthly steps.

jaysay 06-03-2012 09:00

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Originally Posted by garinda (Post 975537)
What I could never understand about Russia, since the fall of the Soviet system is this.

One minute your looky-likey Brezhnev wife is rubbing a blackened Brussel sprout around her eyes, in place of mascara, and you'd happily exchange your first born son for a pair of Levis, or a Pink Floyd album.

Literally within a couple of years, your wife's a supermodel, you're now a squillionaire oligarch, and you own more impressive array of boats than most countries navies.

How that all happen?

From bread queue to capitalist captain, in twenty four easy monthly steps.

In every communist there was a Capitalist trying to get out Rindi:rolleyes::D

Wrighty 06-03-2012 14:32

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975567)
In every communist there was a Capitalist trying to get out Rindi:rolleyes::D

Is not the other way round ?

jaysay 06-03-2012 18:09

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975626)
Is not the other way round ?

You seem to forget the big changes in good old Tony, Gordon, Alistair and lets not forget good old two jags the tub thumping poster boy of the left, now better known as the Noble TWO FACED LORD ;)

Wrighty 06-03-2012 20:16

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975676)
You seem to forget the big changes in good old Tony, Gordon, Alistair and lets not forget good old two jags the tub thumping poster boy of the left, now better known as the Noble TWO FACED LORD ;)

Not sure what you mean by changes? .. I know some of em are Fabians , Marxists & commies .. good combo to run the country eh!

jaysay 07-03-2012 08:41

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975728)
Not sure what you mean by changes? .. I know some of em are Fabians , Marxists & commies .. good combo to run the country eh!

The only problem is they would rule by the gun not the ballot box, that's why communism failed

Wrighty 07-03-2012 09:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975820)
The only problem is they would rule by the gun not the ballot box, that's why communism failed

Refusal of a referendum , Destruction of NHS , privatisation of the police , millions of cctv cameras , heavy handed police tactics at peaceful protests , already feels we are becoming under a dictatorship & then we have the interference of the EU , which may I add is a total unelected dictatorship

jaysay 07-03-2012 09:27

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975826)
Refusal of a referendum , Destruction of NHS , privatisation of the police , millions of cctv cameras , heavy handed police tactics at peaceful protests , already feels we are becoming under a dictatorship & then we have the interference of the EU , which may I add is a total unelected dictatorship

The EU isn't unelected at all, if I seem to remember we do vote once every fife years for people to represent use in the European Parliament, although as I've said before we would be better off out of it, as for your other points, all measures taken rightly or wrongly are by a duly elected government, elected by the people and usually those that moan the most don't actually use their vote

MargaretR 07-03-2012 09:46

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The elected MEPs don't make policy decisions.
They exist to provide the sham appearance of democracy.
They won't overturn the applecart because they know they are on a good gravy train.

Wrighty 07-03-2012 09:54

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Nigel Farage: Italy and Greece crushed by the hands of unelected men - YouTube

Nigel Farage: Italy and Greece crushed by the hands of unelected men :rolleyes:

jaysay 07-03-2012 10:05

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975835)
Nigel Farage: Italy and Greece crushed by the hands of unelected men - YouTube

Nigel Farage: Italy and Greece crushed by the hands of unelected men :rolleyes:

Wrighty, with the greatest respect, you don't actually expect me to listen to this bird brain do you, if he's sane Cripin was innocent:rolleyes:

Wrighty 07-03-2012 10:12

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975838)
Wrighty, with the greatest respect, you don't actually expect me to listen to this bird brain do you, if he's sane Cripin was innocent:rolleyes:

What is your problem with Farage ? , At least he is exposing the unelected EU for what it is .. a dictatorship!! Do you see Liebour or the ConDems speaking like this for the people of this country ??? didn't think so

No need for insulting people who are trying to get us out of this mess ....

jaysay 07-03-2012 10:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975841)
What is your problem with Farage ? , At least he is exposing the unelected EU for what it is .. a dictatorship!! Do you see Liebour or the ConDems speaking like this for the people of this country ??? didn't think so

No need for insulting people who are trying to get us out of this mess ....

I want people to get use out of this mess who are up to the job, Farage has always been a self serving own publicist who likes to hear his own voice and loves himself too much, sorry

Wrighty 07-03-2012 10:26

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975844)
I want people to get use out of this mess who are up to the job, Farage has always been a self serving own publicist who likes to hear his own voice and loves himself too much, sorry

We have 4 choices , Liebour , Cons , UKIP & BNP not much of a choice I know!

But if it means getting out of the unelected! , EU .. has to be UKIP or BNP .. can you actually see people voting BNP ?

I know Farage is a city man & the only thing going for his party atm is getting us out of the EU .. But like I have said .. Better than Liebour or Cons

jaysay 07-03-2012 17:55

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975845)
We have 4 choices , Liebour , Cons , UKIP & BNP not much of a choice I know!

But if it means getting out of the unelected! , EU .. has to be UKIP or BNP .. can you actually see people voting BNP ?

I know Farage is a city man & the only thing going for his party atm is getting us out of the EU .. But like I have said .. Better than Liebour or Cons

Farage is a detriment to UKIP always has been, even worse than Kilroy, but only just;)

Wrighty 07-03-2012 18:14

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975932)
Farage is a detriment to UKIP always has been, even worse than Kilroy, but only just;)

One of only a few politicians who openly speaks out about leaving the EU & you think he is bad ?:confused:

My word! , if Liebour get in next things will be just as bad .. if not worse :help:

jaysay 07-03-2012 18:59

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975938)
One of only a few politicians who openly speaks out about leaving the EU & you think he is bad ?:confused:

My word! , if Labour get in next things will be just as bad .. if not worse :help:

Have you ever listened to him at length Wrighty, there is speaking up and speaking up though, but I certainly Agree if Labour got in again it wouldn't be worse it would be an unmitigated disaster, like it always is, especially being led by Adenoid Ed

Wrighty 07-03-2012 19:28

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 975969)
Have you ever listened to him at length Wrighty, there is speaking up and speaking up though, but I certainly Agree if Labour got in again it wouldn't be worse it would be an unmitigated disaster, like it always is, especially being led by Adenoid Ed

I have watched loads of his vids on youtube where he is in the EU parliament exposing the corrupt organisation for what is .. unlike our current PM & many more mp`s who are all pro EU ..

I disagree with a few things about UKIP , especially them taking Neil Hamilton on board :mad:

The most important thing imo atm is getting out of the EU & if it means voting for someone I am not 100% with .. then so be it .

We have been sold down the river for long enough by these so called politicians .

Its ok Cameron & Co banging on about democracy in the middle east .. what about us ?

jaysay 08-03-2012 09:11

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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 975992)
I have watched loads of his vids on youtube where he is in the EU parliament exposing the corrupt organisation for what is .. unlike our current PM & many more mp`s who are all pro EU ..

I disagree with a few things about UKIP , especially them taking Neil Hamilton on board :mad:

The most important thing to atm is getting out of the EU & if it means voting for someone I am not 100% with .. then so be it .

We have been sold down the river for long enough by these so called politicians .

Its ok Cameron & Co banging on about democracy in the middle east .. what about us ?

The problem with UKIP is they are a one trick pony, but getting out of Europe was made so much harder by both Blair and Brown, who both had their own self interests embedded in the decisions they took when in office, lets face it Blair always did fancy being president of Europe


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