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kestrelx 11-03-2012 11:12

Internet damages the brain!?
 
Recent research is showing that Internet use is as addictive as Alcohol, cocaine and cannabis and damages the brain.

Internet Addiction Can Change Your Brain Like A Cocaine Addiction - Business Insider

Also in general users the Internet is changing the way the brain works...

How the internet is altering your mind | Technology | The Guardian

Less 11-03-2012 11:29

I believe it, we have you as proof!

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 11:47

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That is a monumental lump of text. If I really wanted someone to read what I had written, or cut and pasted for that matter. I would break it into readable paragraphs.

I cannot possibly comment on the content of the above post as I have only read the title......and seeing the great slavverin lump of text....makes me want to agree that it does affect some internet users....perhaps, not all.

cashman 11-03-2012 11:53

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Seems people are coming to the conclusion,its worked big time in your case.:rolleyes:

davemac 11-03-2012 11:57

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blood and sand! whats all that about:silly:

susie123 11-03-2012 12:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 976870)
That is a monumental lump of text. If I really wanted someone to read what I had written, or cut and pasted for that matter. I would break it into readable paragraphs.

I cannot possibly comment on the content of the above post as I have only read the title......and seeing the great slavverin lump of text....makes me want to agree that it does affect some internet users....perhaps, not all.

Margaret, click on the Guardian article link from which the large lump of text is a quote. It's much easier to read.

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 12:09

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Thanks Sue.....I'm not sure if I want to...maybe later.
Anyway, aren't you supposed to be in that potting shed? :D
(I'm supposed to vacuuming the upstairs and changing the bed.......! )

MargaretR 11-03-2012 12:13

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Now, now, Kestrel ;) - if you were a real conspiracy theorist you would realise that the controlling elite wish to deter the population from using the internet, and that is why such blurb is issued by the (controlled) media.:D

It is mind altering - it publicises their devious shenanigans so people become aware of their greed and corruption - no wonder 'they' try to deter you from using it.

susie123 11-03-2012 12:19

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 976877)
Thanks Sue.....I'm not sure if I want to...maybe later.
Anyway, aren't you supposed to be in that potting shed? :D
(I'm supposed to vacuuming the upstairs and changing the bed.......! )

Potting shed is for after lunch - the sun doesn't get round to the back garden till then!

What's your excuse?

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 12:48

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I think I have ADHD :D.......either that or I am very distractable:D.
Himself thinks the housework fairy does it....I must be the housework fairy!

annesingleton 11-03-2012 16:46

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 976894)
I think I have ADHD :D.......either that or I am very distractable:D.
Himself thinks the housework fairy does it....I must be the housework fairy!

No such thing Margaret, ADHD is nothing more than an excuse for inappropriate parenting! (In my opinion of course, goodness this comment is going to get me shot!!!)

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 16:49

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I'll tell my mum...she will find that really funny(and I am not being fly here Anne)
She will give me a clip behind the ear for misbehaving.:D

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 16:49

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Mind you, she'd have to catch me first.......I can run faster than her...well, she is 85!.

susie123 11-03-2012 16:50

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 976948)
No such thing Margaret, ADHD is nothing more than an excuse for inappropriate parenting! (In my opinion of course, goodness this comment is going to get me shot!!!)

Agree with you Anne, not sure Marg will or her indomitable Ma!

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 16:56

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I do....I have always said that children diagnosed as such, were just naughty and not given enough boundaries, or the boundaries were not maintained (if they were ever set)....but so many people disagreed with me, that I started to keep these thoughts to myself. at present they can't police my thoughts(unless MargaretR has some evidence that they can....ooh scary).

And you are right about Ma being indomitable too!

annesingleton 11-03-2012 17:19

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 976956)
I do....I have always said that children diagnosed as such, were just naughty and not given enough boundaries, or the boundaries were not maintained (if they were ever set)....but so many people disagreed with me, that I started to keep these thoughts to myself. at present they can't police my thoughts(unless MargaretR has some evidence that they can....ooh scary).

And you are right about Ma being indomitable too!

Margaret I so agree with you! But very un PC!

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 17:30

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Political correctness has a lot to answer for.

jaysay 11-03-2012 18:01

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Strewth, well there's one thing for sure you've learnt to cut and paste, unfortunately I bet nobody has read it, nor for that matter anything else you link, are you a mate of C'mon

Retlaw 11-03-2012 18:33

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 976956)
I do....I have always said that children diagnosed as such, were just naughty and not given enough boundaries, or the boundaries were not maintained (if they were ever set)....but so many people disagreed with me, that I started to keep these thoughts to myself. at present they can't police my thoughts(unless MargaretR has some evidence that they can....ooh scary).

And you are right about Ma being indomitable too!

You've it the nail on the ead, that symptom was unheard of when I was a kid, if you didn't do as your told you got a clip, to remind you of your ways.
Its worked for millions of years in all animal species on this planet, just watch a wild life documentary and the animal kingdom soon disciplines errant cubs wi a swipe.
Retlaw

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 18:58

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Yes Retlaw, as ma would say 'ther nod all daft that slavver'

davemac 11-03-2012 19:38

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 977016)
Yes Retlaw, as ma would say 'ther nod all daft that slavver'

never heard that quote before, but it sort of says it all,and I may start using it myself, also it is said in dialect so wont be understood outside the region:flower:

Margaret Pilkington 11-03-2012 19:59

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Good on you Dave...keep the dialect alive.

Benipete 11-03-2012 21:31

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 976948)
No such thing Margaret, ADHD is nothing more than an excuse for inappropriate parenting! (In my opinion of course, goodness this comment is going to get me shot!!!)

Not from me It's not I completely agree.:hidewall:

cashman 11-03-2012 21:33

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Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 977065)
Not from me It's not I completely agree.:hidewall:

And this kid also.

walkinman221 11-03-2012 21:35

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Originally Posted by annesingleton (Post 976948)
No such thing Margaret, ADHD is nothing more than an excuse for inappropriate parenting! (In my opinion of course, goodness this comment is going to get me shot!!!)

Not from me either totally agree:alright:

kestrelx 13-03-2012 12:13

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 976879)
Now, now, Kestrel ;) - if you were a real conspiracy theorist you would realise that the controlling elite wish to deter the population from using the internet, and that is why such blurb is issued by the (controlled) media.:D

It is mind altering - it publicises their devious shenanigans so people become aware of their greed and corruption - no wonder 'they' try to deter you from using it.

OK Margaret ;) Why do they want to deter us from using the Internet? Have you proof?

OK the internet does give us instant access to data and information but does it change the way we think in a positive way? I am not sure it does - because people are still in their closed little worlds.

I would ask you now be honest - how long are you on the Internet for in one go?

On many occasions I have been on it constantly for hours - you look up and suddenly 2 - 3 hours have gone. Time flys when you are using the internet!

But the issue is that it's the damage done to young kids minds, these days kids at 3 and 4 years old are learning how to use technology - it's their brains that are being changed by it! :rolleyes:

MargaretR 13-03-2012 12:38

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The internet is good or bad according to how it is used.
I use it to broaden my knowledge and to internet shop to maintain my independant living.

Those who use it for porn and twittering are wasting the opportunity for gaining knowledge. Although social networking proved useful for the arab spring revolutionaries.

I do spend a large amount of time webbrowsing but I am incapable of going out much.
The web is a better form of amusement and learning than the controlled info to be seen on TV. Subliminal messaging is on TV - any advertising man knows that!

Less 13-03-2012 13:44

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977481)
OK Margaret ;) Why do they want to deter us from using the Internet? Have you proof?...



...these days kids at 3 and 4 years old are learning how to use technology - it's their brains that are being changed by it!

You asked Mags, now I'll ask you,

Have you any proof?

A 3 or 4 year old able to search the web?

Most of them only just have the motor skills to spin in a circle on one foot, nevermind use a keyboard!

tommiasfc 13-03-2012 14:05

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 977497)
You asked Mags, now I'll ask you,

Have you any proof?

A 3 or 4 year old able to search the web?

Most of them only just have the motor skills to spin in a circle on one foot, nevermind use a keyboard!

I do I've experienced a 4 year old on an iPad browsing then going on a game

Margaret Pilkington 13-03-2012 14:08

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Then his parents should be more discriminating about his activities.

Less 13-03-2012 16:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 977497)
You asked Mags, now I'll ask you,

Have you any proof?

A 3 or 4 year old able to search the web?

Most of them only just have the motor skills to spin in a circle on one foot, nevermind use a keyboard!

Forgot to mention, they excitedly shout, "Wheeeeeeee!".

kestrelx 13-03-2012 19:18

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 977497)
You asked Mags, now I'll ask you,

Have you any proof?

A 3 or 4 year old able to search the web?

Most of them only just have the motor skills to spin in a circle on one foot, nevermind use a keyboard!

Read this...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&k...l_90udtdymut_b

There was a guy talking about his kid using computers and so on! Not all but some do! They have keyboards with big buttons!

kestrelx 13-03-2012 19:36

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 977487)
The internet is good or bad according to how it is used.
I use it to broaden my knowledge and to internet shop to maintain my independant living.

Those who use it for porn and twittering are wasting the opportunity for gaining knowledge. Although social networking proved useful for the arab spring revolutionaries.

I do spend a large amount of time webbrowsing but I am incapable of going out much.
The web is a better form of amusement and learning than the controlled info to be seen on TV. Subliminal messaging is on TV - any advertising man knows that!

I sometimes e-mail the Wright Stuff, tell em what I think, they read a message of mine out once!

Yes Internet is an amazing tool for looking at knowledge and information! But the issue is most of us grew up without Technology and went through that period of time in childhood in which we read books, kids these days many are going straight onto using computers and now phones and i-pads and electronic books etc. The research suggest this may be harmful to the growing mind, may be less so for the mature minds like us! :D

cashman 13-03-2012 21:38

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To me the biggest fault wi internet is some "Parents" They blindly let it "Rob" children of childhood.:rolleyes:

kestrelx 13-03-2012 21:46

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 977608)
To me the biggest fault wi internet is some "Parents" They blindly let it "Rob" children of childhood.:rolleyes:

Exactly - these days kids are discouraged from going out and playing, climbing trees and so on - to sit in front of computers and get pulled into computer games and facebook! :D

Neil 14-03-2012 09:19

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 977487)
The web is a better form of amusement and learning than the controlled info to be seen on TV.

You allow yourself to be taken in by the controlled info you read and watch on the internet in the same way you say happens on TV. You just decide to believe its true but it could be part of the plan by the new world order to keep you where they want you.

Unless you are there and experience things first hand you have to decide for yourself what is true and what is rubbish. You believe in world domination and all that stuff, I am far to busy to worry about who wants to dominate me.

I don't know why you let it bother you so much, life is to short, just enjoy it while you can.
Tomorrow could be my last so I would rather enjoy my life than worry about what if's and maybe's that wont really affect me any way.

MargaretR 14-03-2012 09:27

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I don't believe everything I see on the web any more than you do.
I am past worrying - just getting ready to 'go'.
I have had a hectic life and my pleasure now is peaceful inner reflection.

No-one has the right to dictate to me how I should live.

jaysay 14-03-2012 09:30

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 977672)
You allow yourself to be taken in by the controlled info you read and watch on the internet in the same way you say happens on TV. You just decide to believe its true but it could be part of the plan by the new world order to keep you where they want you.

Unless you are there and experience things first hand you have to decide for yourself what is true and what is rubbish. You believe in world domination and all that stuff, I am far to busy to worry about who wants to dominate me.

I don't know why you let it bother you so much, life is to short, just enjoy it while you can.
Tomorrow could be my last so I would rather enjoy my life than worry about what if's and maybe's that wont really affect me any way.

Wow Neil didn't realise you were such a good philosopher, can fault what you say, why spend time worrying about something you can't do out about:)

Neil 14-03-2012 09:31

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 977678)
No-one has the right to dictate to me how I should live.

Unfortunately unless you have your own little island somewhere they do.

MargaretR 14-03-2012 09:39

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The joys of being a recluse mean that I am not affected as much as you.

kestrelx 14-03-2012 13:18

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 977672)
You allow yourself to be taken in by the controlled info you read and watch on the internet in the same way you say happens on TV. You just decide to believe its true but it could be part of the plan by the new world order to keep you where they want you.

All the information is not controlled in the way it is on TV! There is scientific data and other information that is not controlled by anyone, it's just information that is there for folks to make their own mind up about - Facts - some may be Fiction!

Also anyone can post personal videos on You Tube, containing their own views - that is not censored!

kestrelx 14-03-2012 13:21

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 976866)
I believe it, we have you as proof!



Internet addiction can be as damaging to teenagers' brains as alcohol and drugs, a study suggests.

Scientists say internet addiction disorder (IAD) is a recently recognised condition where individuals spend unhealthy amounts of time online.
Researchers have now discovered it disrupts nerve wiring in adolescent brains in a similar way to people exposed to cocaine and cannabis.
They believe it shows that being hooked on a behaviour can be just as physically damaging as addiction to drugs.
Denied access to their computers, people may experience distress and withdrawal symptoms including tremors, obsessive thoughts, and involuntary typing movements of the fingers.

http://news.sky.com/home/technology/article/16147572

Less 14-03-2012 15:01

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977738)
Internet addiction can be as damaging to teenagers' brains as alcohol and drugs, a study suggests.

Notice the last word? SUGGESTS!

That means the author of this has no substantial proof just an unproved theory.

Children grow up fast in your world, yesterday it was 3 & 4 year olds, now they have developed into teenagers, still, spending less than 24 hrs going through pubity will have been less traumatic, maybe they will be able to cope with the internet in a similar manner?

Neil 14-03-2012 15:09

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Originally Posted by kestrelx (Post 977736)
Also anyone can post personal videos on You Tube, containing their own views - that is not censored!

It is censored.

Unfortunately some people believe everything they see on YouTube is true and struggle to separate the truth from the ramblings of mad men.

jaysay 14-03-2012 17:44

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 977750)
It is censored.

Unfortunately some people believe everything they see on YouTube is true and struggle to separate the truth from the ramblings of mad men.

As we've seen by stuff linked on here:rolleyes:

Wrighty 14-03-2012 18:03

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 977750)
Unfortunately some people believe everything they see on YouTube is true and struggle to separate the truth from the ramblings of mad men.

The same could be said about the TV? in fact I use the net for the news cause i don't trust BBC , SKY , ITV etc , they don't paint a true picture with what is going on imo

The net expands peoples knowledge & that surely is a good thing ? How can it be damaging?

***Mr D*** 14-03-2012 18:05

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 977509)
Then his parents should be more discriminating about his activities.

I personally see no harm in children learning technology, its the age we live in.

My 2 year old can unlock my Iphone, and select things that amuse him, believe it or not some things can be IMO educational. He can also control and use a mouse, again IMO this is good.

My daughter enjoys using the internet, in fact her school encourage the use.

Peel Park Moodle

As for the thread title the internet damages the brain, I disagree.

Wrighty 14-03-2012 18:09

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Originally Posted by ***Mr D*** (Post 977772)
I personally see no harm in children learning technology, its the age we live in.

My 2 year old can unlock my Iphone, and select things that amuse him, believe it or not some things can be IMO educational. He can also control and use a mouse, again IMO this is good.

My daughter enjoys using the internet, in fact her school encourage the use.

Peel Park Moodle

As for the thread title the internet damages the brain, I disagree.

I see no harm as well fella , as long as parental locks are on & an eye is kept on em ... all is good imo

Margaret Pilkington 14-03-2012 19:15

Re: Internet damages the brain!?
 
While there is some evidence that the use of computers/media devices/computer games, can affect developing brains, then I think it must be used with caution in the very young.

Certainly, teens and young adults seem to be more interested in texting their friends than having a face to face conversation....this cannot be useful when developing interpersonal skills.

I have friends who are parents of teenagers, and they tell me that they get little more than grunts in the way of conversation from their children....and you might say that it was like that in your day...well, it wasn't in mine.

Like all things...moderation is the key.........and a modicum of parental control.

katex 14-03-2012 20:15

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977680)
why spend time worrying about something you can't do out about:)

Love this chart:

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As for the Internet, admit to being an addict and totally obsessed.

It lets me make a point without being interrupted; allows me a choice of direction; has no physical demands on me; expects nothing in return; puts me in charge of the 'remote' and leads me to climaxes with the correct solutions and satisfaction... :D

On the minus side, am always burning my tea whilst watching an interesting thread unfold (not Accyweb though ... only joking Roy, honest).

kestrelx 14-03-2012 22:07

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 977750)
It is censored.

Unfortunately some people believe everything they see on YouTube is true and struggle to separate the truth from the ramblings of mad men.

The issue is that you said everything on the Internet is censored just like the TV - but its not. Just because someone can put mad ramblings on, doesn't mean everything else on You Tube is also the ramblings of the deranged! :rolleyes:

kestrelx 14-03-2012 22:10

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977766)
As we've seen by stuff linked on here:rolleyes:

Especially your posts! :p :D

jaysay 15-03-2012 09:08

Re: Internet damages the brain!?
 
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Originally Posted by Wrighty (Post 977773)
I see no harm as well fella , as long as parental locks are on & an eye is kept on em ... all is good imo

The only problem there Wrighty is we know that doesn't happen it a hell of a lot of household because some parents don't give a toss so long as their kids are out of their hair

MargaretR 15-03-2012 09:24

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 977878)
The only problem there Wrighty is we know that doesn't happen it a hell of a lot of household because some parents don't give a toss so long as their kids are out of their hair

Where children are subject to careless parenting it is better for everyone else that they are at home watching TV or playing games on the web, rather than out in the community committing anti social behaviour.

jaysay 15-03-2012 09:29

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 977884)
Where children are subject to careless parenting it is better for everyone else that they are at home watching TV or playing games on the web, rather than out in the community committing anti social behaviour.

Margaret its probably a progression from one to the other, looking for something better after getting bored with playing games


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