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:Banane41: There's been a few obsessive followers over the years, in which their need to gain my attention verges on the love sick. I suspect quite a few have had deeper, unresolved issues. Eventually they do go away. When they realise there's no way they'll ever match my fairly exacting standards. Bless 'em. |
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I just said so. For stealing money raised by the British Legion, by selling poppies. Has the warden locked your spectacles away for the night, for your own safety? |
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Quite honestly, and happily, I've never hated any person in my life. Such a waste of time, and effort, and certainly doesn't change anything for the positive. It must just fester, and eat away at you. I pity anyone who's consumed by such a self-destructive emotion as hate. If that's truly what you feel, hate, then I really am genuinely sorry for you. :( |
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Pish head Mancie's taken over. The one who's sometimes witty, fun even, must have fallen asleep. Waste of time, attempting any meaningful exchange with this one. Nighty-night. |
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If you're such an expert on what you reckon I do with my willy, name who, and the religion, of the person I was last in a relationship with, and ending last year? I'll give you a clue. Muslim. Just her name to conjure up now. Oh, yes, issue. Frighteningly she's twenty eight next April, and finished her doctorate earlier this year at the Sorbonne. A great gal. Thankfully much more like her mother. You might as well have a stab at guessing my favourite colour now. You are so obviously the shiniest button in the button box. With your brilliant observational skills. If you're not on smack, bringing us neatly back on thread, you might want to get your gas flue checked instead. There has to be some kind of explanation. ;) |
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Had a nice drink. Fell asleep for two hours. Now wide awake. Thought i would have a peak here. I assure you I will rest soon....
but Oh my. You two been at it. Garinda-- Going back to when you said about 'grassing' so-to-speak. I hope they do not know it is you. I guess this is not recent? Here is a true story A person was buying amphetamines when police burst into a house and arrested people. The person buying the amphetamines 'grassed' In front of his friend. She witnessed it all They jumped him, beat him up and smashed about 10-15 beer bottles on him and I don't know what else. This wasn't enough. They went into his flat and they smashed all his windows, his tv and wrecked almost everything inside. Afterwards they left him alone. But it is one of those stories that haunt me. |
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If this is no longer the case, I'm out of here. I'll return to my own planet. As there's really no hope for your's. |
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As to my being Mamma - that makes you my Father-in law:confused::eek: Must check with Mary-Ellen when she's on-line again - that girl is always gettin' into trouble:D |
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I am just saying that I think admitting it openly that you "grass" for want of a better term, is a dangerous thing.
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These dealers were. When the day comes when I'm too afraid to do the right thing, I'll definitely return to my own planet, and leave you to it. Happily it hasn't happened yet, |
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Oh this is just getting stupid now. Jaysay. Your question itself is a trick question. Drug pushers are those that prey on people and 'push' drugs. The answer to this question is of course no; as pushing drugs is an immoral act.
Garinda-- Ok I will leave you to it. If you want to broadcast to the world. Then ok. I just hope that nothing bad happens to you due to these actions. |
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This is a simple matter of doing the right thing or being a tart, it don't get any clearer n that to me.
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There is a difference between somebody that pushes drugs and somebody that sells drugs.
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But If I bag it up, stand on street corners(do pushers actually do this? I have never seen it) and whisper to little kids... |
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But if you sell out side schools and so on to underage children that is highly immoral and you should be given a sentence in my view. So places in London there are dealers on the street who approach people in the street and offer drugs for sale. |
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Has anyone heard of Khat? (pronounced Cot) It is a plant from Africa - Ethopia and Somalia - it is legal in the UK and gives the user mild euphoria and is a bit like mild speed. It is legally available from Somalia type green grocers, probably maybe some in Blackburn or Manchester.
It comes in bundles of leaves on stalks and has to be chewed to get the effect - the juice from chewing is swallowed and the remaining material spat out. It is a lot of effort to chew it and has a bitter taste and is a bit similar to chewing a bag of liquorice - it takes up to 2 hours to chew enough. It is mainly used by those Ethnic types as a social stimulant in social meetings, bit like British use beer in the pub. https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=Kh...w=1067&bih=505 |
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((From Wikipedia) Although concerns have been expressed by commentators, health professionals and community members about the use of khat in the UK, particularly by immigrants from Somalia, Yemen and Ethiopia, currently it is not a controlled substance. As a result of these concerns, the Home Office commissioned successive research studies to look into the matter, and in 2005, presented the question of khat's legal status before the Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs. After a review of the evidence, the expert committee recommended in January 2006 that the status of khat as a legal substance should remain for the time being. In 2008, Conservative politician Sayeeda Warsi stated that a future Conservative government would ban khat. The website of the Conservative Party, which is now the largest party in a coalition government in the UK, previously stated that a Conservative government would "Tackle unacceptable cultural practices by", amongst other measures, "classifying Khat". In 2009, the Home Office commissioned two new studies in the effects of khat use and in June 2010, a Home Office spokesperson stated: "The Government is committed to addressing any form of substance misuse and will keep the issue of khat use under close scrutiny". Because it is legal in the UK, and because of khat's short shelf life, Britain serves as a main gateway for khat being sent by air to North America. During a debate on the legality on the 11 January 2012, UK Member of Parliament for Milton Keynes Mark Lancaster, Conservative, stated importation of Khat into the UK stands at 10 tonnes every week. |
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Stupid in my opinion, explaining on a forum, how to obtain n use.
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After watching the documentary on beeb about "legal highs" I think they are also a serious problem. People ingesting bath salts to get high and such. ugh
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Also it can't be distilled or the main component extracted. It goes off radpidly and has to be consumed within 48hours after picking. It is flown over here in refrigerated planes and it's potency deteriorates rapidly. |
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Perhaps all drugs(alcohol included of course) related threads should be moved to 18+
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I think i will stick to my whiskey thank you :D
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Because of the spelling?
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It is one of those whiskies that you can drink straight and not wretch. Very smooth and sweet. I went to the races with my father a few months back. Beverley in Yorkshire. Geese I loved that town. So clean, tidy and nice town centre. Cobbled thin streets. However :) Whilst I was there I tried a new Jack Daniels whiskey. JD Honey. Now that was weird! |
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I think im slowly getting there as I age a little :) though I like to have ice with it.
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As my old feller used to say, "what a waste of good whisky". |
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Properly rubbered up. :rolleyes::eek::D Khat's really bad for oral health, by the way. Don't expect to keep your peggys into old age, or get many snogs, as your breath will stink. Can cause many peridontal problems, and there's also an increased risk of oral cancer. For those reasons alone, probably not something that should be held up as being an easy way of getting your legal rocks off. |
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my housemate mixes energy drinks with his
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However, I will state that my position on this question comes from a firm belief that a "war on drugs" with all it's regressive laws will not solve the problems associated with drugs. In fact, it exacerbates them; and it dooms thousands in Mexico, Columbia, Honduras etc. As with my opposition to capital punishment, it is based on a belief that harsh laws do not work. If capital punishment did act as a deterrent, I would personally volunteer to pull the switch, or the trigger. And if I could be convinced that wars on drugs would end the miseries and pain associated with them, I would fully support those laws. Lidices don't work ... never have worked, never will work. |
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Nah. Doubt he would drink that buckfast. Actually I have only seen that once. In the shop on Milnshaw Lane. Too expensive for what it is. Waste of money
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A question to those who use recreational drugs.
Does their legal status prevent you from taking your chosen drugs? Have you ever faced criminal charges for using them? I'd suggest not. Certainly not in the last twenty odd years. I don't know anyone who has. If recreational drugs were all legalised, it's my opinion that some would take that as a green light that it's risk free to use them. Young people especially aren't known for worrying about life in the long-term. Today, and tomorrow is enough for them to get their head round. Plus, when you're that age, everyone thinks they're invincible anyway. Most teenagers disregard any possible risks with the eternal youthful claim that 'It'll never happen to me'. Today, as the law in this country more or less turns a blind eye to possession for personal use, how will legalising whatever you take be benefical to you? I'm already assuming you have the sense to be using a dealer, who's drugs, as far as quality control, you already trust. I'm genuinely interested to know how decriminalising these drugs will make your enjoyment of them any better, than it already is? I certainly don't know any users who don't already take exactly what they want, when they want, even though they're classed as illegal now...in theory at least. What benefits would there be to you, if the current status quo was interfered with? |
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:hippy:I considered quoting rindy's post, but, who cares? Just don't Bogart that joint.:hippy:
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http://img.thewhiskyexchange.com/150/irish_gre2.jpg Greenore 8 Year Old 70cl / 40% Irish Single Grain Whiskey A gold medal-winner at the International Wine & Spirits Competition, this unique concoction is a 100% Single Grain Irish whiskey, from the multi-award-winning Cooley distillery in Dundalk. |
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I've known hundreds who used/use them, but don't personally know anyone who's been punished by the law for taking them. How would total decriminalisation benefit anyone? As the law's turned a blind eye, at the same time usage here has also increased massively, and hence there's been relatively more misery caused, for those whose addiction does spiral out of control. This is one thing we'll never agree on, I'm afraid. As I firmly believe decriminalisation will lead to more misery, for some, than there is already. |
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yogi bear a clip from "a bear pair" The only thing to take with your whisky is your own saliva:theband: And those of you who like whisky, or love it, should try some of this stuff: Forty Creek - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It has my imprimatur.;) |
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Eric Canadian Club with ginger was my tipple at one time, just the odd one at the end of the night, prefered a pint of Lion or Thwaites Mild misen
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Oh, and Susie, before you pounce, I always split my infinitives when I'm with Yoda.;) |
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Who are those questions aimed at?
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I can only see the associated problems some people suffer, increasing, if there was a total decriminalisation of these substances. Getting to know young kids, who sell their bodies on the street to fund their habit, and not anything posted here, has made me believe that any lessening in numbers taking these drugs, means less misery for the unlucky few risk takers. |
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You must of had some members in mind posting these questions. Im curious now though. Will any drug users come forward and answer garinda's questions? |
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Well the questions a duffer for starters:
"Should we legalise illegal drugs?" Fact is we have nowt to do with it and the politicianst are the ones who are able to make this decision in the long run. As far as I am concerned I don't care really as there are too many who don't want drugs legalised and I can't be bothrered argueing anymore.:( |
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This thread was only started, so a poll coild be attached, so we could gauge just how much support there is here for the total decriminalisation of recreational drugs, after you, yourself, raised the subject, in this thread you started... http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ugs-55943.html Happily it seems there's very little support, for the legalisation of recreational drugs. :) |
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Agreed- I think all that can be said has been said in this thread. Too depressing to keep reading it. After my trip back from hove/winchester i am going to ignore this thread. Life is better without it
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As some of you will know me and a friend have just got back from a trip to Amsterdam
where cannabis is legal . but it can only be smoked in the designated cafe shops and is controlled there is no problems with it there there is very little crime and the city what we saw was clean and no empty shops for rent or sale that we could see at all your not allowed to walk the streets with a joint, the only obnoxious people we met was a group of people from Blackburn that where shouting obscenities and being a nuisance and it was the women doing most of the shouting. |
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Sp there's no need to reply. ;) |
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My friend at work went on a late honeymoon to France and had the same experience. He had walked up to someone and attempted to talk to someone in French for directions or whatever. The guy had replied "do I look like a £$%£$%" or something like that back to him in an English accent.
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A country where people can go around injecting smack and smoking crack-cocaine legally would be a weird place to live. Thank god(that i dont believe in) that these drugs ARE illegal. Quote:
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Just as a side note on the ferry (Pride of Hull) in the bars there is a notice saying they cant sell tobacco or cigarettes or alcohol to those under 18.
as we entered international waters these signs where taken down on the way back when within the 3 mile limit they where put back up hehe |
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My point being, that as it stands now, there's already very little chance of anyone being prosecuted for possession of these illegal drugs, and using whatever they want to. |
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Good one for Dragons' Crack Den. I bet Hilary would invest in my idea. :D |
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I don't do any illegal drugs at all. Don't even smoke for 3 1/2 years. Coffee and tea are my addiction with a bit of alcohol every now and again. |
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I just wondered why you'd therefore posted, after earlier today saying you wouldn't, that's all. |
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This might very well not happen, if it wasn't against the law. :rolleyes: |
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I just listen to the voices in my head. Telling me to do it...because they so obviously desereve it, for what they've done. ;) |
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Better for someone else to go to the fiery furnace - I can always be absolved of my sins by saying a number of rosaries -there's something so soothing about repeating the same words over and over and over...:rolleyes::angel: |
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'Listen to those voices in your head.' 'Bangin' on about 'The right thing to do'.' 'As they're very rarely wrong, son.' ;):D |
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Aha! Just as long as you don't cry wolf too often;):D a-ha Cry Wolf 1986 - YouTube I believe this was from the "Voices in my head" album - you may remember it :confused: |
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Having been away I have to say I'm sorry I missed this one and most has probably been said but I am actually in favour of at least de-criminalising the use of drugs. I have often said that there should be no interference with anyone's personal lifestyle choices as long as they harm no-one else.
Before I get shot down by people shouting, "What about the drug addicts who steal and rob to fuel the habit", I would say this: a few years ago the then chief constable of Middlesborough, who had one of the most efficient anti-drug squads in the country, said that there was no hard and fast proof that this was the case. He said that the vast majority of drug users who stole and robbed were thieves and robbers before they ever started using drugs. I have known a lot of drug users over the years and I have found exactly the same. I have known addicts who would never steal from anyone and the ones who did were all into crime prior to any involvement with the drug scene. I believe, perhaps wrongly because you can only judge anything by your own experience, that the connection between crime and drugs is more a created thing by the powers that be because they wish to stop drug use as it is not in their interests. Most drug users are only "criminals" because society (or authority) has made their use illegal. |
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However, if you're a seventeen year old teenager, funding a heroin habit, I think you'll find there aren't that many job opportunities that will pay you enough to fund your addiction, without resorting to other money making activities. |
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Plus, the young people I worked with, who were forced into becoming sex workers to fund their addictions to drugs like heroin and crack cocaine, weren't in any fit state to hold down jobs which required them to work regular hours. |
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...and although soliciting on the street as a prostitute is a criminal offence in this country, these were the lucky ones.
They managed to fund their addiction, without creating a victim. (Other than themselves.) Unlike the addicts who went out on the rob, to get enough money to score their next hit. |
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It's obvious that if someone's just had a good smoke of dope, in their flat and they then set off with various drugs on their person, the old paranoia's about having those illegal drugs and walking across town are going to rear their heads! Thus without doubt if cannabis and other drugs were legal I think there would be less people suffering from paranoia or psychosis! That said at the moment this society will not legalise drugs - so it's not gonna happen is it. |
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Unfoundly so. As in reality, as far as the current justice system stands, it's a fact they aren't going to be charged with possession for personal use. You're right about one thing at least. There's very little public support for the total decriminalisation of recreational drugs, meaning it's unlikely to ever happen. Happily. :) |
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