NHS privatisation: Compilation of financial and vested interests.
 

This list represents the dire state of our democracy. The financial and vested interests of our MPs and Lords in private healthcare. Why are these people allowed to be in charge of our NHS, to vote on a bill that they clearly have something to gain from. Who cares that they have put it in the register of interests. This doesn’t excuse their interests, it merely highlights clearly why they should have no part in voting for the privatisation of the NHS. It is privatisation, despite the media’s continued use of the word ‘reforms’. The question must be asked. Are they public servants or corporate servants?

I start with the Lords some (about 40) taken from the Daily Mirror research: These are also available in register of interests, and some from my own research, the list continues to expand but so far for Lords is bout eighty.

In addition to the list below research by Dr Éoin Clarke - has revealed 333 donations from private healthcare sources totalling £8.3 million has been gifted to the Tories. Here is the database of those donations and 'gifts'.

Full list of MP`s & lords or are going to make a lot of money with the privatisation of the NHS

Social Investigations: NHS privatisation: Compilation of financial and vested interests.

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here here! and it stinks to high heaven. in the past they tried to hide these things now, they have the tory press they are doing what they want because the country full of apathy..this is going to end in disaster:confused:

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As your post is nothing but a cut and paste from the link that you cite, I will do the same in my reply. The quotes below are all rebuttals of the ideas put forward, taken from the comments section of the same link. OK, many of these people have shares in healthcare companies. There is nothing to stop you, me or anyone from doing the same (actually I have already done so for many years). Without such companies at the forefront of drug discovery and development there would probably be fewer people alive today and the NHS would have a much harder job on its hands.

All you have really shown is that Tories have business interests outside of parliament. I suspect you could look at any sector and find links.

Fascinating stuff but you really should be more discerning. Many of the companies are suppliers to the NHS without whom the NHS would not be able to function. The private sector has a legitimate and long standing role in providing all manner of stuff to the NHS. I see nothing wrong in a politician having and declaring an interest relating to such companies.

OK, some of them are pretty damn sleazy, but some of them are included in the list simply because they have an interest in pharmaceutical companies.

Am I missing something? Why is that relevant? Surely the NHS is going to spend money on drugs under any system?

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I have an interest in pharmaceutical companies too susie, they've kept me alive

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Exactly Jaysay. Where would you be without them? - don't answer that!

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Makes you sick - feathering their own nests! They sold off the water and gas to foreign companies now it's the turn of the NHS! :D

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but in the future if the moneys run out and you have no health insurance you will have to rely on charity like in the u.s. of a see they havent let the risk be published yet;)

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plus i wonder if this is why they have borrowed twice as much as in feb..;)

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Thing is susie Drug companies suppress things that can help sickness, cos not enough profit in it, was a program i just caught the end of on tv the other day, perhaps its that bit yer missing?

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What programme was that, Cashy - sounds interesting.

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I thought the same, had just got in n was buzzing so it never registered, boss was in bed n i had stuff to sort, pity but thats life.

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Does anyone really know what the NHS Reform Bill is actually going to change?


Well for a start they are going to abolish the NHS Primary Care Trusts (PCT's) and the Strategic Health Authorities and that will free up £60 to £80 Billion of health care funds that will then be given to the new "Clinical commissioning groups" which will be partly run by GP's which means they'll have more work to do!

I am wondering how long it will take to set up this new system and if this will mean there will be a period of dysfunction in that it won't run smooth for a period of time - how can it?

If I go to my GP's tommorrow they will be able to refer me to any medical service they think I need and within a couple of months I'll get an appointment! With these changes it is obvious there will be a period of time that won't happen while the new system is put into place! The issue is will patients suffer because of it?

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I can't see that there is any way of getting around the fact that there appears to be a coflict of interest thing going on here. And with something as important as health care ... it would be the same in the areas of foreign policy and national defence ... this must be scrutinized.

Drug companies don't develop drugs for our benefit ... the do it for profit and the benefit of their shareholders.

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By the way, is there any legislation in the UK which grants protection, for the brand name companies, against generics?

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Yes there is.........Brands are protected for a number of years.....in the US it is twenty years....and I think it is the same here.
This is to enable the drug companies to claw back the money they used to develop the drug in the first place.

Pharma is big expensive business.......and pharma companies court doctors so that they will prescribe their drug over those of competitors.

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I don't know if any of you know about this or have signed this petition about the Government NHS Changes already...

This is part of a message I got:


The government’s plans to privatise and fragment our NHS are taking shape in your area.

Local doctors are forming a Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) for the area. They’re going to get new powers to decide what health services you and your neighbours are able to access and who provides them. [1]

Whether it’s treatment for diabetes, skin conditions, a broken arm or depression, profit-hungry companies like Virgin Care and Serco are circling, ready to bid for contracts by promising to slash costs. [2]

The doctors on your local CCG will be under pressure from the government to hand out contracts to private companies. That could put vital services at risk. [3] But the last thing most doctors want is to carve up our NHS for private profit. Plus, the new CCG has a legal duty to listen to local people. [4]

So right now, we’ve got a big chance to ask local doctors to use their new powers to protect our NHS, not privatise it. Together, we can make sure they hear from hundreds of local people as they make these crucial decisions.

Protect your local NHS | 38 Degrees

Join here if you want.

https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/page/signup

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and it all started here.
Labour's PFI landmines continue to explode in the NHS - Telegraph

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the tories first pushed through pfi under john major http://www.parliament.uk/documents/c...1/rp01-117.pdf it was to encourage more private firms in goverment

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the biggest pfi is the channel tunnel £15 billion alone. so the tories say they spnd less when they really spend more but still create unemployment.

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...and what about the £12 billion that the last Labour government spent on an IT system for the NHS that proved totally worthless? Or is that something you'd rather ignore? :rolleyes:

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just shows the private firms were lying through there teeth for more profit.your 1.5 billion off as they had to return that in a penalty clause;) the tories will get there soon lol Public Sector IT: Search Results

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What it shows is that the last Labour government are no better than the present coalition one. They were willing to squander billions and billions of pounds on a useless project (which they were warned about) for the sake of cheap headlines. Basically, their grasp of economic realities was about as sure as your grasp of written English. ;)

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If I remember correctly Wyn, there were a number of very expensive computer projects that failed miserably during Labours tenure.

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Yes they did and I did say the word Predecessor meaning them, you have yet again shown your Red colours. :cool:

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at least they tried to raise your standard of living, anybody who disagrees must have a short memory;)

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There certainly was, Barrie. The passport office IT fiasco for a start...but our jock friend chooses to ignore this in his usual biased fashion.

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Ged out of here ya plank, pumping good money after bad to give a false impression of prosperity is flawed, off which we're now paying the price, especially in the NHS. I can borrow money and buy a big house a top of the range car, a boat, even a private plan, but it doesn't mean I well of, what it does mean is that one day the chickens will come home to roost and the bailiffs are banging on the door:mad:

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Wouldn't all that banging on the door wake up the chickens? And why would you put your house on top of the car? And that private plan? Is it a health plan:confused:

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Well ya certainly lost me there Eric:confused::confused::confused::confused::confu sed:

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I live in a state of confusion. It's nice to have company;):D Who's round is it, by the way.:D

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Well whoever it is mines a double:D

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Reminds me of a little joke my gran ... the one from Church, not the one from Ossy ... told me. "When God was handing out chins, I thought he said "gins" ... so I said, "Make mine a double":D Folks from Church! Go figure, eh.:D

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Looks like your a chip of the old block Eric:D