NHS; Rest in Peace!?
 

The Con-dems had no mandate to change the NHS! :eek:

Daily Mirror says NHS Killed by the Coalition!

Daily Mirror put "NHS gravestone" on front page | Political Scrapbook


Does anyone here really know what the NHS Reform Bill is actually going to change?


Well for a start they are going to abolish the NHS Primary Care Trusts (PCT's) and the Strategic Health Authorities (SHA's) and that will free up £60 to £80 Billion of health care funds that will then be given to the new "Clinical commissioning groups" which will be partly run by GP's which means they'll have more work to do!

I am wondering how long it will take to set up this new system and if this will mean there will be a period of dysfunction in that it won't run smooth for a period of time - how can it?

If I go to my GP's tommorrow they will be able to refer me to any medical service they think I need and within a couple of months I'll get an appointment for something that is not an emergency! With these changes it is obvious there will be a period of time that won't happen while the new system is put into place! The issue is will patients suffer because of it?

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I hope we have all saved up to visit the doctor

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It might cost an arm and a leg! :rolleyes:

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Knowing this lot, two arms and two legs.

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Well people will be watching what happens like hawks and if we don't get the service we have become acustomed to then there will be trouble and it will probably by the Lib Dems that get trounced! :hidewall:

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The NHS is a shambles tbh .. take this article for example , absolutely shocking!

Woman died after Muslim nurse refused to help as he was praying - Telegraph :mad:

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The demise of the NHS is not a big issue.. the demise of the benches in front of the town hall is much more important.;)

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At last a sensible comment from someone.:D

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thats because they use nurses from private companies now,that are in it solely for profit thats the private companies;)

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There's a song about the benches ain't there :D

If I had a bench
I'd sit there in the morning
I'd sit there in the evening
All over this land
I'd sit without danger
I'd sit out without a warning
I'd sit there with the love between the druggies and the drunkards all over Accrington
oooooower
oooooower

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The reality is that the taxes and national insurance we all pay can now be placed into private companies..that is not the reason the NHS was set up for.. but the Tories have always hated the NHS...this Tory government will sleep well in their beds knowing they have put the health of this country back to the 1930's and achieved the Tory holy Grail :D

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This subject was debated on Thursday night at Full Council and a motion passed to write to the government to consider amending the act. However, the local Conservatives had walked out by this point and took no part in the discussion.

Having had several major operations in the past two years on the NHS I fear for the future of the health service. I certainly couldn't have continued working if I hadn't had the surgery, therefore taking more out of the system in benefits and paying much less back into it in tax.

I simply couldn't afford to go private, it does concern me that we seem to be moving towards the American system.

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Is the government of Pakistan backing Hyndburn International Council, in their fight against the British government?

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Maybe if we didn't have to treat free of charge all the people that have never paid a penny into the NHS, that were admitted to this country on the last governments open door policy them maybe things would be better, if you go on holiday or even if you emigrate to another country try getting free health care without insurance, its only here in good old Great Britain that we have the everybody welcome free of charge written on hospital doors

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Do try and keep up, with our local issues.

The disappearing benches 'experiment', removed because drunks acted the goat near them, used to be sited outside the Market Hall.

;)

We have had an open door since 1945, no one Government is to blame, they are as bad as each other.
Though non perhaps as bad as the 'rivers of blood', chappie, he widened the door then complained about it afterwards.

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Sorry Less was a miss quote from me, it wasn't an open door policy its was a revolving door policy

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There was a door ? ;)

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Ya and they kept leaving it open:rolleyes:

Easily solved then, lock the inner door so they dp a complete revolution and end up where they came from.

It's time our Country stopped relying on foreign imports, invested in proper jobs, (not mamby pamby University degrees), for the school leavers, we could do well with home grown 'skilled', workers.

Invest in jobs, not benefits should be the National cry!

We could start with a few autobhanns and move on from there, what the hey let's get our plumbers trained with a parachute we could invade Poland!

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Bigoted garbage,:rolleyes: All parties are responsible fer this mess, Enoch Powell was certainly NO SOCIALIST, when he went oer the Caribbean in the 50s inviting em to come oer to work, Yet Jaysay cannot see past the last government, :rolleyes:

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If the last government left the door open then this lot have not closed it!...there was a 20% rise in net immigration to the UK in 2011 :D.

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Yeh but he thinks the last government are to blame fer not hanging the door proper.:rolleyes::D

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Don't think they were good at doing anything proper:rolleyes:

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Yes I was wrong on the location.. but hey all's not lost.. you can combine the two

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2005/12/330118.jpg

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Not for the first time.

Though it's good you can accept this problem.

Don't worry about it, too much.

We're here to help you.

;)

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In last 3 years I've been to Hospital for tests 4 times, 3 times were White/British Doctors and one was Asian/British.

So what does race have to do with the post? :confused:

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We had no problem at all getting our daughter seen at the local hospital when we were in Tenerife. She was seen quicker than if we had been at home and taken her to Blackburn. It did not cost us anything either because we had our free European health insurance cards with us.

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'Free', at the point of service.

I think you'll find you've paid many times over, via tax, which winds it's way into the European Union's coffers.

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I did actually say if you weren't insured, which you are if you have any sense, but people walk into this country no insurance no nothing and get the same treatment as British citizens, and don't pay a penny, you may think that's right but I certainly don't, and as I said before you go uninsured anywhere and you'd better have your credit card handy, cuz you'll need it

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We did not need to use our holiday insurance as we had our EU medical cards.

It took 3 1/2 hours at A&E in Blackburn tonight to see if the lad had broken his wrist. After all that time they were not sure and said a radiographer will look at it during the week.

Oh yes we have a superb system at the moment

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And so will those in Europe using the service here. Its those from outside the EU that should be charged

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Now come on you are in breach of the untold rules on here laid down by Garinda and his slobbering dog Jaysay..most people know that health care is given in any country within the EU.( unless you live in the same bubble as the above mentioned). the myth that we British pay for everything in Europe and get nothing is rubbish.
I'm not pro -EU but do at least look and the in's and out of the UK being a member... maybe we should leave the union, but to involve our fantastic NHS in a debate about the EU is pathetic.

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If you're German, you may have contributed enough taxes, which are paid into the E.U. pot.

If you've come here from somewhere like Romania, you won't have.

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Might be of interest, to anyone who doesn't live in their own little bubble, or who wears one party political blinkers, which blinds them to what the rest of us see in reality.

BBC NEWS | World | Europe | Paying for the EU budget

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Take no notice of the London Lush, he talks through his backside most of the time

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Oh trust me I don't.

I'm just happy he's safe from harm, in his secured ward in Bedlam.

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I think you 2 have secret meeting over a pint to put the world to rights

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Oh I'm fully self-sufficent, in that department.

No need for anyone else.

Totally free.

Which is probably why I've never been a member of any political party.

Blinds you to reality.

Must be very restrictive.

Being a true blue, or red.

Though even worse, would be having to brown-nose whoever was in power.

That must be a very challenging skill, to pull of successfully, especially when who has that power changes.

A little like whoring.

No, I think I'll stay free from all binding ties, unencumbered by loyalty to anyone, and therefore freed to speak my own mind.

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like I said....Garinda's slobbering dog;)

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Di-dums.

:dummy2:

Aren't you allowed pets, in your secured ward?

That's a shame.

Can't remember you being such a bitter li'l babba, when I've been super critical of the Tories in the past, on here.

I'll just carry on regardless.

Being super critical, of the jumbled, centralist mess, that is both New Labour, and the Tory Lites.

Perhaps if you save a few crumbs, you could try and tame a little birdie.

Then you wouldn't feel so isolated.

Tweet, tweet.

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Not even original, according to mags he's my pet poodle, I don't remember reporting him missing on here, but if ownership has been transferred, I hope no-one has removed his only remaining assets without my permission just to get him re-homed!

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Still here Less, take no notice of the London Lush, he doesn't know what year it is let alone day, :gooddog:

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Fancy Mancie - Class Warrior.

Sadly, for him, it's the nursery class.

:rolleyes:

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Back on the ball (s) I see Less! ;)

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Ya Susie Less throws it Mancie brings it back:)

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Woof woof!! Good boy!! :jump3: :dogrun::gooddog:

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It seems like there is a contest here about who is the alpha male in the pack.

Urban Dictionary: alpha male syndrome


It's not a title worth winning.

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I think the only contest is to decide who's Accy Web's runt.

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Damn keyboard!

Typo.

Apologies.

:o

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Strange, you've never shown any hesitation in accepting the prize, when you won the title three years on the trot in the AccyWeb Annual Awards.:confused:

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Alpha Male Less:confused::confused::confused::confused:ah well I'll take your word for it as I've never met Margaret;)

She'd make you seem more camp than rindy!

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Ya don't mean she wears jackboots do ya:D

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I never won any Accyweb awards - I think he meant to quote Garys post when he said that.

I wear fluffy slippers most of the time.

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Oh the joys of being at home and living on your own! :smile:

BTW unless I've missed it, you haven't updated us on your flat for a while - did the deep clean go according to plan?

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Its not all milk and honey susie, believe me, its over rated living on your own believe me, mind you at least I don't suffer from GBH of the inner ear anymore which is a plus:D

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Yes - thank you:)
was bound to - I organised that bit:rolleyes:

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Perhaps you need some fluffy slippers John :lol:

I have fluffy slippers, they are supposed to be a dark blue sort of towelling material, but the carpet of fluff bunnies in my rooms seem atracted to them.

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You might be right there...I'll declare myself out of the running :).. the opposition is far to fierce.. mind you I reckon you'd come a close second to Jaysay. :D

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Oh, that's a shame.

We were so hoping you'd be good at something, if nothing else.

Still, if you're also lacking in ambition, so be it.

The lamest in the pack is still up for grabs, if at a later date you do find you want to compete.

;)

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There you go again with the "we" who are the we?..I reckon they are made up of a couple of trolls.

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You know 'we' are schizophrenic.

You should do.

The ward's right next to the drying-out clinic.

How's it going, by the way?

It's very nice of them, to keep having you back in.

Time, after time, after time.

Good old N.H.S.

http://community.secondlife.com/t5/i...=mpbl-1&px=600

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Looks like the NHS will have to pick up the tab for improper breast implants performed by private companies..I do think it is right for these unfortunate people who have been refused by the private sector to have the operation reversed by the NHS.. but now that private health companies are to be given up to 50% of taxpayers resources will we have to bail them out many more times in future? I fear so.

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No I don't know of any drying out clinic.. but I do know when trolls such as you have been hung out to dry!

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You know a li'l troll?

That's nice.

I should imagine it's nice for you, to have at least one friend.

I hope you'll both be very happy.

Are you planning to marry, and adopt baby trolls, you can send out looting, and rioting?

http://www.punkrockers.com/vbforum/i...ies/troll2.gif

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Is that because you're still drinking so much, that you can't remember keep going in there?

Still, as said earlier, good old N.H.S.

For at least trying.

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Not really.. I'm not the one who would have to adopt babies.. you may have to..but then again you might have shot them at an early age.:(

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who are virgin care:confused: the start of the end NHS patients to be treated by Virgin Care in £500m deal - Telegraph

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Blairs mate Dicky Bransan;)

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Something of a rarity these days (allegedly). ;)

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Tony Blair & his misses profiting from the NHS!

PLANETPMC: Cherie Blair moves into private healthcare

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For gods sake I hope c'mon don't see this post he'll commit suicide:)

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Quote from Wrighty's attachment-' Mrs. Blair founded the Allele Fund in 2008 with Gail Lese, a doctor and fund manager, with the aim of investing in health care and technology companies'.
So even while her husband, the protector of the NHS, was Prime Minister she was getting on the bandwagon!
You've been betrayed, c'mon.
I can't say I'm surprised at what she was up to( wonder if her husband knew?).

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Do you know who owns ones medical records? The NHS do! But with these new companies oursourcing like Virgin, then surely the medical records belong to them! That means a private company owns your medical records! Opening the way to your information being sold on! A potential data protection nightmare!

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From Hansard, November 1976:
Personal medical records, including X-rays, in respect of patients treated under the NHS are held to be the property of the Secretary of State. NHS hospital medical records are stored in premises designated by the appropriate health authority. Access to a patient's medical records is governed in the patient's interest by the ethics of the medical and allied professions.


I am not happy about companies like Virgin having a hand in the NHS but if they do they must be allowed access to patient care records. There are data protection guidelines governing this as well as access by researchers and others. See the Care Records Guarantee:


http://www.nigb.nhs.uk/pubs/nhscrg.pdf

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theyll have your private records how would they be able to treat you.this goverment dont give a. no wonder branson pickle has been sucking up to the tories wonder if he went to lunch with cameron:confused:

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Well he sure as hell went to lunch with blair;)

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he would have went to lunch with hitler;)

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Now again in English please, I know its hard, but please try

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Glad i didn't have a cup of coffee in my hand then, that would have been another keyboard down the swanee. :D:D:D:D