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heth 30-03-2012 11:08

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 981183)
You work close to home, many of us have had to follow our work and now drive quite a way to work each day. I need to do 650 miles between now and thursday.


I am well aware other people have to travel further than me?! :confused:

Are you after borrowing my push bike..................:D

Neil 30-03-2012 11:35

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 981192)
I am well aware other people have to travel further than me?! :confused:

Are you after borrowing my push bike..................:D

Only if you are peddling :p

heth 30-03-2012 11:38

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 981199)
Only if you are peddling :p

In your dreams!! ;):p:D

cashman 30-03-2012 11:42

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 981187)
i wondered if she had the cooker on while doing it but couldnt be bothered looking up teh story to be honest

i just put it down under "thinning of the herd"

as terrible as it is stupidity played a huge factor in it happening if the cooker was lit at the time as well as playing with petrol indoors which is bad enough regardless of the cooker situation.

as much as i despise cameron and he cant be held resposible for individuals stupidity

Disagree if he hadn't panicked the herd, I doubt if this would have occurred.

Neil 30-03-2012 11:44

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Originally Posted by heth (Post 981200)
In your dreams!! ;):p:D

With a woman driver it would be more like a nightmare :p

heth 30-03-2012 11:46

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 981205)
Disagree if he hadn't panicked the herd, I doubt if this would have occurred.


I totally agree with you, all this madness and on the news this morning they are now saying there is going to be no strike.

cmonstanley 30-03-2012 11:48

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the tories did this on purpose, if not they are not fit for purpose;)

Neil 30-03-2012 11:55

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 981208)
the tories did this on purpose, if not they are not fit for purpose;)

Of course they did, everyone will have full tanks before Easter weekend and a strike would do nothing.

Have the government broken the strike before it even happened?

Most people will be blaming the tanker drivers for the threat of strike so it might even turn out to be a double hit for the government.

On the other hand if Labour had been in power would they had spoken out against their paymasters Unite?

maxthecollie 30-03-2012 12:22

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The Tesco filling Station on Abbey Street had run out of diesel this morning

Michael1954 30-03-2012 13:52

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Just got my weekly petrol from Texaco on Queen Street, Great Harwood. I was the only one there filling up, although the owner said it had been busy in the morning.

lancsdave 30-03-2012 14:36

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 981230)
The Tesco filling Station on Abbey Street had run out of diesel this morning


I don't think you can gauge anything from that garage. Even if there was a world surplus of free petrol they would still run out. The pumps are closed off there more than they are open

Margaret Pilkington 30-03-2012 14:42

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 981208)
the tories did this on purpose, if not they are not fit for purpose;)

Whether they did it on purpose, it is debatable, but surely if you have a brain keeping your ears apart you don't start to hoard petrol and you certainly do not buy more than you need before the tanker drivers have even made a decision........it is the lunacy of the people with siege mentalities, for listening in the first place.
Still..... those who can't think, like to shove the blame onto someone other than themselves.

Margaret Pilkington 30-03-2012 14:44

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 981215)

On the other hand if Labour had been in power would they had spoken out against their paymasters Unite?

I doubt it very much Neil...in fact, pound to a penny they would have done nothing much differently.

cashman 30-03-2012 14:44

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 981260)
Whether they did it on purpose, it is debatable, but surely if you have a brain keeping your ears apart you don't start to haord petrol and you certainly do not buy more than you need before the tanker drivers have even made a decision........it is the lunacy of the people with siege mentalities, for listening in the first place.
Still..... those who can't think, like to shove the blame onto someone other than themselves.

If thats directed towards Cmon ? its very harsh- Asses don't take petrol.:D

Margaret Pilkington 30-03-2012 14:48

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Cashy, he hasn't the brains to be an Ass........and if that is harsh then so be it. I say it like I see it.(exactly like someone else I know...not looking precisely in your direction)

jaysay 30-03-2012 17:35

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 981208)
the tories did this on purpose, if not they are not fit for purpose;)

A bit like yourself really an embarrassment to the Labour Party but your too thick to see it, not fit for purpose;)

Stumped 30-03-2012 17:54

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Originally Posted by Michael1954 (Post 981249)
Just got my weekly petrol from Texaco on Queen Street, Great Harwood. I was the only one there filling up, although the owner said it had been busy in the morning.

Likewise, Michael. The panic must not have spread to The Republic of Great Harwood . . . Yet!

Stumped 30-03-2012 17:55

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981283)
A bit like yourself really an embarrassment to the Labour Party but your too thick to see it, not fit for purpose;)

Milliband, the knobhead labour leader was too busy buying himself a hot pasty to realise what was going on.

Less 30-03-2012 18:32

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Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 981291)
Milliband, the knobhead labour leader was too busy buying himself a hot pasty to realise what was going on.

Yawn, we went through the cornish pastie jokes days ago whilst they were hot.

Mancie 30-03-2012 20:39

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At first sight this looked like a wind up:
BBC News - Fuel driver hours rules relaxed by government

Hang on here..the tanker drivers voted for "possible" strike action over health and safety along with unsafe working hours..now in response to possible fuel shortages caused by the government they have relaxed the hours petrol tanker drivers can drive from 9 hrs to 11 hrs...who are these idiots? ..:confused:

wallop79 30-03-2012 21:04

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Originally Posted by Mancie (Post 981332)
At first sight this looked like a wind up:
BBC News - Fuel driver hours rules relaxed by government

Hang on here..the tanker drivers voted for "possible" strike action over health and safety along with unsafe working hours..now in response to possible fuel shortages caused by the government they have relaxed the hours petrol tanker drivers can drive from 9 hrs to 11 hrs...who are these idiots? ..:confused:

As I said in my earlier post, they'll be making a mint with the overtime from extra deliveries, a lot of people fell for their cunning plan.

kestrelx 30-03-2012 21:14

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A woman has been seriously burned while she was pouring petrol from can to can in her kitchen.

Number of filling stations affected by Panic buying = 8,000+
Rise in sale of jerry cans at Halfords since Minister= 500%
Francis Maud advised people to fill a can.
Rise in sales of petrol since farce began. = 81%
Extra fuel duty collected on Weds alone. = £32million
Drivers offered £250 in overtime to deliver petrol to empty garages!
Number of fuel delivery strikes announced = Zero.

All because of the Con dems (Condemned) :alright: :rolleyes:

cmonstanley 30-03-2012 21:28

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 981283)
A bit like yourself really an embarrassment to the Labour Party but your too thick to see it, not fit for purpose;)

ho ho ho:D usual cant debate policy so personal attack sounds familiar oohh ye you think you are a tory lol

Mancie 30-03-2012 21:36

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Originally Posted by wallop79 (Post 981335)
As I said in my earlier post, they'll be making a mint with the overtime from extra deliveries, a lot of people fell for their cunning plan.

Puts to bed the EU directive on working hours at a stroke.. but then again the goverment have always had that option.;)..they just forgot to tell us!

Guinness 30-03-2012 22:30

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Nothing to do with the EU Working Time Regulations...they are simple to bypass with a signature on a piece of paper...(as are most rules made by the EU). This is a Health and Safety issue, but H&S tend to use the word 'reasonable' which, as we all know, is subjective, and can be tweaked to suit the moment

Mancie 30-03-2012 22:47

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Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 981360)
Nothing to do with the EU Working Time Regulations...they are simple to bypass with a signature on a piece of paper...(as are most rules made by the EU). This is a Health and Safety issue, but H&S tend to use the word 'reasonable' which, as we all know, is subjective, and can be tweaked to suit the moment

Like I said it's put to bed any so called EU directives..the ones that only exist in the small minds of some prolific posters on here.:rolleyes:

jaysay 31-03-2012 08:32

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 981340)
ho ho ho:D usual cant debate policy so personal attack sounds familiar oohh ye you think you are a tory lol

How can I personally attack a faceless wonder, for all I know you could be Tony Blair in disguises, or on second thoughts maybe not:rolleyes:

Stumped 01-04-2012 17:40

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Looks like the fuel protesters are jumping on the bandwagon with their open declaration that they are determined to bring down the government, but to be replaced by what : a rabble-rousing mob of union activists intent on returning us to the bad old days of beer and sandwiches at #10? The potential for damage to this once great country are mind-boggling, particularly in a year when we have been promised so much to look forward to. If Cameron and his cronies don't get their act together soon, then we are doomed no matter who is at the helm.

cmonstanley 01-04-2012 18:14

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people need to read the facts most of these truckers are not in a union.these other truckers are financially crippled by the tories while the toffs are at their black tie dinners laughing at the oiks;)

jaysay 01-04-2012 18:28

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 981794)
people need to read the facts most of these truckers are not in a union.these other truckers are financially crippled by the tories while the toffs are at their black tie dinners laughing at the oiks;)

You really are a dinosaur, tell us the truth when's it your 100th birthday;)

Busman747 01-04-2012 19:24

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I've just read through 9 pages on this thread and have heard how the Government are to blame or it's the Fuel companies, even the garage outlets. but what about the Tanker drivers?

They say that they want better health & safety conditions, bigger pension, improved sick pay - but may now settle for just a 27% pay rise instead!! These guys earn circa £900-00 for driving 37 hours a week and will be looking to collect a rise that is almost as much as I earn for a 48 hour week!:mad::mad:

cmonstanley 01-04-2012 20:27

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they are driving a bomb .i would like to think they were getting a decent wage.this is not about money this is outsourcing to agencies;)

cmonstanley 01-04-2012 21:09

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they are not allowed to leave their trucks so they cant just pop into a 24 hour cafe service station etc so they work a little bit harder than the other hard working truckers ;)

jaysay 02-04-2012 08:51

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 981850)
they are not allowed to leave their trucks so they cant just pop into a 24 hour cafe service station etc so they work a little bit harder than the other hard working truckers ;)

They know exactly what the job is when they take it, and £900 isn't exactly peanuts is it, in fact I would think there aren't too many on this website earn more for a 37 hr week

maxthecollie 02-04-2012 15:18

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It's well above the local average wage. Wish I could get £900 for 37 hours.

Eric 02-04-2012 15:48

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 981948)
It's well above the local average wage. Wish I could get £900 for 37 hours.

So would we all. But not too many of us can drive a tanker loaded to the nuts with explosive fuel. Nor would too many of us want to. Many moons ago I drove long haul ... cattle liners out of Regina and Moose Jaw ... but you couldn't have got me behind the wheel of a tanker ... not for twice the money I was getting paid.

Gremlin 02-04-2012 18:46

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I did thirty years on tankers, I carried liquids far more dangerous than petrol.
I also worked out of Shell for a while along side the petrol tankers and got the same pay and conditions as they did. Nowadays petrol tankers never see petrol. It is loaded through the bottom valve and the vapour is taken away through top pipe to another bottom valve, both pipes have break seals on so when you take away the pipe it seals and there is no spillage. When they unload on a forecourt it is the same, the petrol goes into underground tanks and the vapour returned to the tanker.
All the work they do is alike, no strange products to carry, no pumping or pressurized deliveries. It is loaded by meter, no standing on top with a dipstick anymore. They never go far from their depot or have night away, somebody else cleans the vehicle and services it, it's a cushy job and that's why there is a long queue to get on them and the drivers are trying to keep it that way.

I hope they don't get to striking and from emails I receive from a good mate who still drives tankers I don't think they will.
All he wants is to keep the job he has and the same conditions for contractors and new starters, mainly the training and safety.

In my opinion Unite is trying to do a Scargill on the Government and maybe this lot are too weak so they cause a panic before anything has been decided.


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