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AccyChris 19-04-2012 20:37
Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Does it matter who gets elected? Or is it the same old muck different pile?

Benipete 19-04-2012 20:57
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Yep!!

Eric 19-04-2012 21:19
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Of course it does. The degree to which it matters, however, is another question.

pallyman 19-04-2012 21:32
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
yes,look whats happening in france,its makeing the the goverment there nervous.even though the far left parties wont win.

cashman 19-04-2012 21:46
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
It matters probably to the point pallyman said. If enough eventually vote fer minor parties, Those with the clout will have to take notice in my view, It will take time but will no doubt work when it gets to that point.

AccyChris 19-04-2012 21:53
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
so you belive your electing them to represent you and make sure everything runs smooth?....is it possable your electing directors of corporations which is why it's same old muck different pile?

cashman 19-04-2012 21:56
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AccyChris (Post 986401)
so you belive your electing them to represent you and make sure everything runs smooth....is it possable your electing directors of corporations which is why it's same old muck different pile?
If thats a response to my post? Yer proving unable to digest what is written.

AccyChris 19-04-2012 22:01
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
:o meant it as 2 general questions cash and it was meanly in response to benipete :o

cashman 19-04-2012 22:41
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AccyChris (Post 986405)
:o meant it as 2 general questions cash and it was meanly in response to benipete :o
Fair enough, but as it followed my post n yeh didn't highlight Petes, it looked otherwise.

accyman 19-04-2012 22:48
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
i gave up the last of my hope on polititions the day our MP stabbed us in the back and went back on his word in order to suck up to his boss.
.
hang on were his boss he shoulda done what we wanted not his buddy


How the government runs needs a huge rethink and something needs to happen to remind these pricks they work for us and that they arnt there to line their pockets or feed their ego's.

like iv said before i admire guy fawkes he saw a problem and addressed it in a propper fashion .He just got a bit unlucky is all .

AccyChris 19-04-2012 22:57
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Benipete (Post 986390)
Yep!!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 986394)
Of course it does. The degree to which it matters, however, is another question.
Quote:
Originally Posted by pallyman (Post 986398)
yes,look whats happening in france,its makeing the the goverment there nervous.even though the far left parties wont win.
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 986414)
i gave up the last of my hope on polititions the day our MP stabbed us in the back and went back on his word in order to suck up to his boss.
.
hang on were his boss he shoulda done what we wanted not his buddy


How the government runs needs a huge rethink and something needs to happen to remind these pricks they work for us and that they arnt there to line their pockets or feed their ego's .
:alright:

AccyChris 19-04-2012 22:58
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
whoops lol

AccyChris 19-04-2012 23:00
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 986414)
i gave up the last of my hope on polititions the day our MP stabbed us in the back and went back on his word in order to suck up to his boss.
.
hang on were his boss he shoulda done what we wanted not his buddy


How the government runs needs a huge rethink and something needs to happen to remind these pricks they work for us and that they arnt there to line their pockets or feed their ego's.

:)

Eric 20-04-2012 06:21
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by cashman (Post 986403)
If thats a response to my post? Yer proving unable to digest what is written.
... or write what is digestible.:rolleyes:

AccyChris 20-04-2012 10:08
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
NOTICE: MY OPINION:
I dont care if its Lib-Dems or labour.....All politician groups have more faces than big ben...Labour spend money they don't have, Lib-Dems are dirty lying bleeps (proven by Clegg and his actions) the Tories make cuts or whatever to line there own pockets and the BNP are as good as British Nazis......same old muck different pile :rolleyes:

Less 20-04-2012 10:29
Quote:
Originally Posted by AccyChris (Post 986475)
NOTICE: MY OPINION:
I dont care if its Lib-Dems or labour.....All politician groups have more faces than big ben...Labour spend money they don't have, Lib-Dems are dirty lying bleeps (proven by Clegg and his actions) the Tories make cuts or whatever to line there own pockets and the BNP are as good as British Nazis......same old muck different pile :rolleyes:
You have a wonderful way with words, a most original way of writing what has been said in many political threads on here.
;)

AccyChris 20-04-2012 15:36
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
what's folks veiws on the possablity of instead of electing them to represent you your mearly electing a new director of a corporation....which is why nothing changes???? :eek:

Less 20-04-2012 15:56
Quote:
Originally Posted by AccyChris (Post 986503)
what's folks veiws on the possablity of instead of electing them to represent you your mearly electing a new director of a corporation....which is why nothing changes???? :eek:
Do you share Jaysay's genes?

He types what he think's is English, we try to understand it, nobody knows what is going on.

accyman 20-04-2012 16:57
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AccyChris (Post 986503)
what's folks veiws on the possablity of instead of electing them to represent you your mearly electing a new director of a corporation....which is why nothing changes???? :eek:
if your saying we democraticly elect a dictatorship then i can kinda see your point.Its become acceptable for polititions to lie,cheat,take drugs,have affairs,sex orgies and basically act like scum infact a politition can go to prison and still influence politics when they get out because they have friends in low places.Each election we basically hand over the keys to the country to a bunch of crooks .

all of them couldnt even lie propperly about having a pasty when the extra tax on warm pastys was announced infact cameron in an attempt to come over as a common man claimed he had eaten a pasty at a shop recently that had closed 5 years ago.They are infact terrible crooks and if they didnt have the title of MP they would be caught and locked up pretty quickly or be making appearances on worlds dumbest criminals :rolleyes:

edit:

sorry i misread director as dictator lol -- oppps

AccyChris 20-04-2012 17:39
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 986512)
if your saying we democraticly elect a dictatorship then i can kinda see your point.Its become acceptable for polititions to lie,cheat,take drugs,have affairs,sex orgies and basically act like scum infact a politition can go to prison and still influence politics when they get out because they have friends in low places.Each election we basically hand over the keys to the country to a bunch of crooks .

all of them couldnt even lie propperly about having a pasty when the extra tax on warm pastys was announced infact cameron in an attempt to come over as a common man claimed he had eaten a pasty at a shop recently that had closed 5 years ago.They are infact terrible crooks and if they didnt have the title of MP they would be caught and locked up pretty quickly or be making appearances on worlds dumbest criminals :rolleyes:

edit:

sorry i misread director as dictator lol -- oppps
:hehetable

AccyChris 20-04-2012 17:42
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 986505)
Do you share Jaysay's genes?

He types what he think's is English, we try to understand it, nobody knows what is going on.
related to jaysay :eek:...he's not that lucky ;)

jaysay 20-04-2012 17:57
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Less (Post 986505)
Do you share Jaysay's genes?

He types what he think's is English, we try to understand it, nobody knows what is going on.
Ya but just think how enlightened you'll be when you finally work it out:eat_arrow

jaysay 20-04-2012 17:58
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by AccyChris (Post 986527)
related to jaysay :eek:...he's not that lucky ;)
I'd commit suicide if I were;)

AccyChris 20-04-2012 19:03
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 986539)
I'd commit suicide if I were;)
now now brother jaysay ;)

DaveinGermany 20-04-2012 19:19
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Doesn't seem to be the case, far to often the populace is promised change, that things will get better & if not all, at least quite a few wrongs will be righted. Irrespective of the party, over the last 30 odd years this hasn't been the case, the people are saddled with greater problems, less choice & far from things being righted they've taken a step backwards.

So no, the illusion of a better future hasn't been realised for the majority & I can't see it getting better any time soon. So for my 2pen'oth, it really doesn't seem worthwhile, so you may as well go vote for an outsider, maybe then it'll give them (the major ? parties) a wake up kick in the arse & God knows they need it.

AccyChris 20-04-2012 22:13
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
A few Parliament anagrams

Partial men
Pm a Ten liar
Im paternal
Rampant lie

Guinness 20-04-2012 23:22
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
The whole idea of Parliament needs reorganising.

The 3 laws of Parliament

1) No member of parliament should be affiliated to any political party or dogma
2) Each member of parliament needs a majority of REGISTERED voters to be voted into office
3) Members of parliament should vote according to the wishes of their constituents

accyman 21-04-2012 01:06
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 986687)
3) Members of parliament should vote according to the wishes of their constituents
wont happen in hyndburn as long as jones is in the seat hes already proven that :rolleyes:

Eric 24-04-2012 17:27
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
It really does matter. In the last Provincial election in Ontario, I voted for the (social democrat) New Democratic Party. They came in a powerful third in what you guys, for some reason, call a "hung parliament" ... I prefer "minority government" .... The party I support, got concessions from the ruling Liberals in return for their support in getting the budget through. Now, the super rich will be subject to a super tax. Something that Ontarians have demonstrated that they want, and something that the parties of the right and centre have been unwilling to do. So in this case my vote did make a difference. It mattered.

Ontario government survives budget vote - Toronto - CBC News

AccyChris 25-04-2012 17:43
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Thanks for your input Eric :alright:... Just hope they don't slip into there usual ways and stick to doin what the people want.

Stumped 25-04-2012 17:57
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
It's less than a week to election day and I have yet to receive any policy literature from whosoever puts themselves forward as a candidate for election. If past local elections are anything to go by, then neither of the two main parties warrant the support of any potential voter, and any poor soul who dares to stand as an independent - if elected - will only be browbeaten into submission and sidelined by the status-quo. I look forward to spoiling yet another worthless document come election day.

jaysay 25-04-2012 18:17
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Stumped (Post 987554)
It's less than a week to election day and I have yet to receive any policy literature from whosoever puts themselves forward as a candidate for election. If past local elections are anything to go by, then neither of the two main parties warrant the support of any potential voter, and any poor soul who dares to stand as an independent - if elected - will only be browbeaten into submission and sidelined by the status-quo. I look forward to spoiling yet another worthless document come election day.
They won't let me vote this year Stumped, phewwwww:D

Eric 25-04-2012 18:24
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 987560)
They won't let me vote this year Stumped, phewwwww:D
That's 'cause they had a spelling test to determine eligability;)

lancsdave 25-04-2012 18:25
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Of course it matters who gets elected, we wouldn't want a change of politics and actually elect people who listen

jaysay 25-04-2012 18:31
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric (Post 987563)
That's 'cause they had a spelling test to determine eligability;)
No there's no election in my Ward this year:p PS whats the last word in your post Eric, think you sould replace the a with an i miself:D:D:D

maxthecollie 25-04-2012 18:42
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
We have visits from the tory and labour candidates but no sign of the lib dem , not even any paperwork or flyers. Apart from that who wants a hyndburn councillor living in Nelson.

Eric 25-04-2012 18:48
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 987568)
No there's no election in my Ward this year:p PS whats the last word in your post Eric, think you sould replace the a with an i miself:D:D:D
I know.;)

stetrovers 25-04-2012 18:51
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
whoever gets voted in looks after NUMBER ONE, themselves come first, there are too many MP's. They only do as they are told from the top of their given party. 99% of MP's and councillors are capitalists, i don't think there are many socialists left. Dave Nellis was the last one in my opinion.

AccyChris 25-04-2012 20:35
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
"How the government runs needs a huge rethink and something needs to happen to remind these pricks they work for us and that they arnt there to line their pockets or feed their ego's" :)

Stumped 27-04-2012 17:55
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accyman (Post 986512)
if your saying we democraticly elect a dictatorship then i can kinda see your point.Its become acceptable for polititions to lie,cheat,take drugs,have affairs,sex orgies and basically act like scum infact a politition can go to prison and still influence politics when they get out because they have friends in low places.Each election we basically hand over the keys to the country to a bunch of crooks .

all of them couldnt even lie propperly about having a pasty when the extra tax on warm pastys was announced infact cameron in an attempt to come over as a common man claimed he had eaten a pasty at a shop recently that had closed 5 years ago.They are infact terrible crooks and if they didnt have the title of MP they would be caught and locked up pretty quickly or be making appearances on worlds dumbest criminals :rolleyes:

edit:

sorry i misread director as dictator lol -- oppps
That's why they're hammering the police service into the ground. Pretty soon there'll be no bobbies left to lock anyone up.

lindsay ormerod 27-04-2012 20:55
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Living in Peel we have no Tory candidate ( I wonder why....) I will happily put my cross next to Wendy Dwyer, lives just round the corner, has done for years and knows our area and problems, our only other choice apparently doesn't even live in the constituency so not only could I not be bothered googling him I have no intention of voting for him. I really think that this situation of importing potential candidates should be outlawed! Just because your grandma lived here in the 1920s doesn't mean you are "local".

Restless 27-04-2012 21:15
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She knocked on my door. She seemed nice enough. How are you Lindsay? (if you remember me, I came in our price-- I was the guy ordering red house painters/dakota suite/and American music club albums. I used to come in and gave that guy(andrew perhaps his name) bootleg concerts of mark kozelek

AccyChris 30-04-2012 00:42
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by accychris (Post 986475)
notice: My opinion:
I dont care if its lib-dems or labour.....all politician groups have more faces than big ben...labour spend money they don't have, lib-dems are dirty lying bleeps (proven by clegg and his actions) the tories make cuts or whatever to line there own pockets and the bnp are as good as british nazis......same old muck different pile :rolleyes:

frauds ;)

AccyChris 03-05-2012 21:50
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
my conculsion:
electing a new director of a corporation....which is why nothing changes

and if "a politition can go to prison and still influence politics" i dread to think what he/she can influence on the outside of prison

Restless 03-05-2012 22:05
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
I think Accychris there is a new rule (possibly) that should be added to all forums and that is "DO NOT QUOTE YOURSELF"

AccyChris 03-05-2012 22:51
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Restless (Post 989299)
I think Accychris there is a new rule (possibly) that should be added to all forums and that is "DO NOT QUOTE YOURSELF"
not another :rolleyes: ive not got my head round the standard 1's from signing up yet :confused::confused: :D:D

jaysay 04-05-2012 08:47
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Restless (Post 989299)
I think Accychris there is a new rule (possibly) that should be added to all forums and that is "DO NOT QUOTE YOURSELF"
If he didn't do that who the hell would he converse with:rolleyes:

AccyChris 04-05-2012 11:38
Re: Does it really matter who we(you) elect???
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 989378)
If he didn't do that who the hell would he converse with:rolleyes:
There's always you jaysay.....saying that I'm prob better conversing with myself seen as your comments are usually of the excretion variety :rolleyes:


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