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Because they probably started watch the teams in other towns when Stanley were on a distant memory, they didn't see in existence

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High time they mended their ways and started displaying a little local loyalty like others have done.

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How long has Football been played at Whitebirke Retail Park?

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Ah Max, good to see you. Are you doing anything Saturday afternoons from August onwards? ;)

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i cant say for sure but if you want to meet up we could kick off a game of kerby as the kerbs there are ideal for it :D

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Well there can't be too many of them,

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One or two that you know!

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I'm afraid I have no interest in football but in fairness to Clare you really should see the stickers in her car's rear window if you're worried about loyalty to Accrington Stanley...

And I completely fail to see how a shopping trip to a big city is in some way deplorable. I take your point but much as I love shopping in Accy there are some things you just can't buy there.

We are trying to get bigger names to invest here but until then 'retail therapy' trips out of town are inevitable.

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Stickers on her car are all very well, but does she turn up regularly? If she does, more power to her. One thing I will say about Graham Jones - he's been a Rovers season ticket holder since 1978, but he does attend every Stanley home match he can.

As for shopping in bigger cities, that was Jaysay's criticism, so you'll have to ask him about that.

Incidentally, Ken, you might like to know that Mrs H who spends more or less every weekend indulging in retail therapy in Manchester, loves coming up to Accy for regular shopping trips and always returns home with bagfulls of bargains that she's picked up while here. :)

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There is also a thing called personal choice.

As for local loyalty I am involved with quite a bit of that as well.

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Out of interest when did he start attending Stanley matches? Would it have anything to do with politics by any chance?

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At the moment I do not like shopping in Accrington and try hard not to. As mentioned by accyman it is full of people I would rather not be around so I will go elsewhere. Once the rapid transport waste of money is finished people who rely on buses will be able to elsewhere faster as well. It has been mentioned by others before on AccyWeb, the problem with Accrington is some of the people not the place itself. Unfortunately the minority of people (I think they are the minority) are driving others out of town.

Many people want to shop at places like the Trafford Centre, Liverpool One and The Rock. They want to drive to Whitebirk, buy a TV stick it in the car which is parked outside the door and drive home with it. Shopping habits have changed over the years and trying to cling onto our old style town centre is one of the big problems we have. It is to big for the number of shops and shoppers. This leaves many empty shops and the town looking run down which in turn drives people away.

Is trying to prevent Whitebirk from expanding going to help Accrington town centre?
I don't think so, what it will do is make people like me drive to Preston or Manchester to shop. While I am over there I might spend some money in other shops.

The root cause of Accrington town centres problems need to be addressed, that is in the council can see what they are.

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The thing is Kenneth, if your in charge of Town Centre developement, don't advertise the fact your going shopping out of town on Social networking sites:rolleyes:Its called using your head

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He's definitely been attending Stanley matches since long before he became an MP. I can say that for a fact. Whether or not he's been attending since before he became involved in local politics, I don't know. Obviously, I can't read minds, but the impression I get from chatting to him in the pub and on the way down to the ground is that he's a genuine supporter.