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I have given stuff to HUFS in the past, but find they are choosy about what they take.
They refused a solid wood bookcase, and reluctantly took an oak refectory dining table.

It seems their clients don't read books and eat off trays whilst watching TV:rolleyes:

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Just had a look at the HUFS website and there seems to be far more emphasis on electrical and leisure goods than home furnishings.

It's very rare these days to see a TV programme where folks eat at a dining table rather than on their laps in front of the TV. The only place to see families eating together at a table is in the ads which are trying to sell a vision of happy family life.

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This coming week I am switching from gas cooking to electric.
I will have a clean fully functioning gas cooker surplus to requirements.
Normally I would offer it to HUFS but if there is a chance that Maundy will get it, I would rather leave it outside for the 'travellers' to collect for scrap.

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Yes it was definitely the same tv, it was very distinctive with some marks on it which I recognised - it was also second hand when I had it, my son gave it to me. I'd rather it was dumped which was my intention than went there.
Even though it didn't work it looked quite good, perhaps someone was able to fix it but I'm sure that it wouldn't work for long.

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To answer 1 of the previous questions I can categorically say that the same people I see hanging around Maundy are the same people I recognise from my time in a well known high street chemists, and I changed employers nearly 3 years ago, that's progress then. They havn't moved on, but why should they when handouts are there every week?

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Ya Linds they never look a gift horse in the mouth, they just pass the info on to other like minded people that there's an easy touch in Accrington come fill your boots, good news travels fast

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There was an Item on Northwest News this morning about a food bank in Accrington, it did give the name (which didn't include Maundy) but can't remember it, no doubt Dorothy has something to do with it though

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I was thinking about these "middle class" families getting food parcels, you can just see it can't you, I'm just of to see Dorothy dear see you later, so the guy jumps into his new car which is on HP and sets of, on the way he remembers something so he takes out his state of the art Iphone that he has on monthly contract and texts his wife, do ya need out" ya love pick us up 40 fags will ya and a bottle of gin, will do, wow times are hard;)

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Could have been this one, address is Cannon Street, Accrington.

Food Bank

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Ya susie Community Solutions that was it but they didn't give any details except they were on Radio Lances at 8.05 this morning

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Don't fret, I'm bringing yours round A.S.A.P.:D

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Your such a kind chap cashy, a proper chap:D:D

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112 posts about this situation and not a single word from any of the councillors who are Accyweb members.

Says it all really. :rolleyes:

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Let me give you a clue

Bag snatchers prey on elderly women in Accrington (From Lancashire Telegraph)

People don't want to come in to town when they constantly get accosted/abused/witness the pathetic behaviour of these low life scum.

How simple do you want it ?

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phew it reads that the police are issuing purse alarms

for a second i thought they were going to remove all the elderly from town

maybe maundy should issue limits on how often they help each person like so many hand outs and your cut off for 12 months.Like others have said its the same group of faces its like its their meeting point.

as for the purse snatchers one can only hope someone manages to snott them before the police get there because the courts love a good i cant help it im a junkie excuse and nothing gets done

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Nah, when you're saintly, you just keep on turning the other cheek.

There's no such thing as naughty people.

They simply need Jesus in their lives, food parcels, and twenty quid...for the 'leccy'.

;)


'A charity boss says she would welcome back a former volunteer who stole from the group five times.'

Thief ?welcome? at Maundy Relief charity | Accrington Observer - menmedia.co.uk

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"It's very sad because he could have asked for anything he wanted and he would have got it." Just about sums it up, as does her comment that this lowlife is a "sweet boy".

And still the local councillors stay silent... :mad:

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Ya its wonderful somebody holding the torch for St Dorothy when they live hundreds of miles away:mad:

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When his curfew is over he'll probably be back -someone is going to have to fund his fine after all!

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You can't bet your last penny that if this had been 2 years ago this thread would have been over 200 posts long with HBCs number one Britcliffe basher having contributing over half the posts;)

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Excuse me, young Kenny tried his best, and devoted a lot of his time to it, but I still hold that title.

;)

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Sorry Rindi, but Wyn asked where are our councillors who have failed to respond to this thread, never new you were a councillor, must have missed that one:rolleyes:;)

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Slightly off topic but are any of the electrical goods on offer tested for safety?I doubt it and as such ,will it not be against the law to pass them on to others?

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I don't imagine my telly had been tested, it was broken and had been outside for a couple of days!

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It would have had to have been Anne, even these shops have to comply with the law and are liable for any damage

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I pity the poor person who bought it!

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Yes, they probably thought it was worse than the one they had in the Great Depression.

:rolleyes::D

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Would that be the great depression of the 60s 70s 80s or 90s:D

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I still think it was a totally crass, and stupid thing for Dorothy McGregor to say, that people are worse off today, than in the depression of the twenties/thirties.

She should perhaps read one of William Woodruff's books, about living in poverty locally, in those times.

Tributes - William Woodruff

Or if she's too busy to read a book, playing Lady Bountiful, there's an interesting article in this paper, which talks about the hardships many in Lancashire suffered in the Depression.

In search of Arcadia: In the Hungry 1930s mothers starved to death to feed their children | Mail Online

Still waiting to hear just how many drug addicts there were in Accrington in the thirties.

I'm guessing not many.

No work = no food.

No welfare state handouts to fund a habit, in those times.

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Another bit of good news for Accrington Town Centre, Blackburn are to make it free parking on council car parks to try end entice more shoppers, another excuse to stick two fingers up the Accy

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Dorothy isn't an ex-nun, she is in fact, 'a nun without an order'. I believe she was ordained many years ago by the bishop of Blackburn.

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Would that be before or after she was a Social Worker?

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I found it interesting to read, in one of the many interviews she's given, as well as talking about her life as a nun, she also spoke about doing a modelling course.

Clarified a lot.

Spotlight.

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By the way, I've nothing against the woman personally.

I've only met her once, and I found her to be a very nice person.

However, as well as spouting such stupid things about poverty being worse now than in the thirties, I genuinely believe her approach hinders, rather than help, those people fighting addiction.

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Bishop of Blackburn Jelly, though Dorothy was a Roman Catholic:confused:

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Perhaps it was before the Reformation.

;):D

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:eek:Didn't realise she was that old;)

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Maybe it was before she did home visits for the parole board and spouted her crazy opinions on their behalf. ( I speak from personal experience regarding a family member, and she didn't have such a charitable outlook then!):eek:

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my mate had her as his probation officer when he was younger and he says she was quite the push over if you had a half decent sob story.Maybe she mellowed later in life :confused:

mind you this was about 25 years ago

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There is an article here about Doroty's background,
Crisis management | Society | The Guardian
Makes quite interesting reading.
However, I do agree that she is facilitating the needs of druggies and alcys by dishing out hard cash.

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Accyman has a letter in the Accrington Observer...it is apt and truthful, but I am sure that next week there will be a load of letters supporting the work of MG......from the lily livered soft touch do gooders.
Well said Accyman. Karma left on another thread. I am sure that you said what many people actually think, but are reluctant to say.

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A quote from that Guardian article-
"Now, one in three people in Accrington is involved with drugs.":eek:

That seems a wild exaggeration
...maybe she meant that one in three of the people whom she supplies are.

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Maybe she has not clarified what she means because it serves her cause better not to clarify.
The kind of support she offers is not helpful to those who have dependency issues.
These people need to be taught and encouraged to stand on their own two feet.
Many of their problems are of their own making.
I used to donate to the cause, but I no longer do so.

I once heard a young woman, who had just come out of the Muandy Grange place(near what used to be Philip Pratts) saying 'She expects us to eat this shi-ite'
The woman had been give an M&S Pastrami sandwich.......she had taken it, despite it not being to her taste and was seen, a little bit further down the street tossing into a bin...ungrateful wretch. That is when I decided that I would no longer support MG.

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i can assure you i do not have a letter in the observer the closest i have ever got to that was delivering it on my paper round 25 years ago :)

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Sorry about that Accyman..there is a letter which is signed Accyman and I thought it was you.
Anyway, who ever it was who wrote it, has hit the nail right on the head and not in an inflammatory way.
Apologies Accyman for confusing you with the other person who wrote the letter.
They do reflect much of what you have said in posts on here....so you can perhaps see why I thought it was you.

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i havnt read it and unless its online i probbably wont see it .

maybe i have a fan lol

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I tried to find a link to it but I'm not sure if they have the letters in the online Observer.....if they have, I couldn't find them.

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Margaret it was in the Guardian, and people actually call the Daily Mail

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I think you were kind calling her a wretch Margaret. When Maundy started out at first the late Ken Hargreaves sacked me if I would make a monthly donation to them, £2 I think it was, this was around 1998, I paid it for a while until I heard the stories about what was happening and cancelled my donation, must have been about 2001, people need to open their eyes, as I've said before I hadn't realised how bad it had become until I saw it for myself last summer, this is one of the reasons that Accy is worse than other town centres, Abbey st is like a no go area, and its spreading, fast

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Na he spells his name with a Capital Letter:D

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Thought you 2 were good mates?:D

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Um another typo me thinks but very close to the mark really:D

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Dunno who sent that letter, But i aint reluctant to agree wholeheartedly wi it.

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Cashy, it is a very appropriate letter without getting emotional about the subject of scroungers - there is no rancour in it, no name calling........which in my book makes it absolutely spot on.
It is just a great big spoonful of truth...but you wait and see what response it gets in next weeks Obby.......there will be many who disagree with it because it isn't PC to criticise a charity...(people will see it as a personal criticism of Dorothy MacGregor) and it will attract comments purely because of this.
People will not look and see how truthful it is...well, that is, unless I perhaps pen something myself.

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Hope you're off-line right now because you are penning the letter!:alright:

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Go on Margaret, give it some wellie, in true MargaretP style:mosher:

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And that is the crux of the problem, due to UK's enforced acceptance & tolerance legislation which in itself is intolerant & unPC by it's very nature.

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Just two observations on the Letter in the Obs straight and too the point without going OTT and that's why our Accyman didn't write it, it was far to nice and not blunt enough:D

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So does that put me outa the running then?:D

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That gives you no chance at all matey:D:D:Da spades a spade not a shovel:D

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This article was from October 2003, so maybe that explains some of her comments.