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Probably the saddest post I've made on Accrington Web, My life long friend and former Hyndburn MP Ken Hargreaves sadly passed away earlier today RIP Ken I'm going to miss you

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R.I.P. A good un was Ken.:(

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R.I.P. Ken You were the best M.P. for Hyndburn

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Such sad news -i remember reading recently somewhere on here that he was very sick.

Met him a few times back in the 80's - he was a really nice man and an excellent representative for the town.

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R.I.P Ken

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Very sad. R.I.P. Ken.

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A true gentleman. Rest in Peace Ken.

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Very sad news. A fine gentleman. RIP

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Extremely sad. Ken was a Gentleman, who had time for everyone and assisted many.

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Sad news about Ken. Ken was the Mayor of Hyndburn when I first became a Councillor. Served on many committees and local charities over the years with Ken. And I can honestly say that I have never heard anybody say a bad about Ken. Very unassuming man Ken as well.

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Sad news indeed, rest in peace Ken x

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RIP Ken ..

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Ken was respected across the whole Hyndburn community and further afield. He never did anything for personal advantage but always put other people first and did his very best to help them.

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Ken was a real gentleman who I always felt was in touch wiyh the people who he represented - a very humble man with a real Christian faith RIP Ken

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Very sad news. Like many in the borough, he went the extra mile to help me. RIP Ken.

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I am saddened. Ken lived a Christian life.

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A gentleman, so sad news.

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R.I.P one of the best.

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A fine person, and one of life's gentlemen.

A politican who always put the people he represented, before his own, personal ambition.

The world would be a better place, if we had more like him today.

I sincerely hope he does rest peacfully, knowing the things he did for others, were appreciated.

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That says a lot.

About you both.

We'd all benefit, if there was more unity.

Working together, instead of the nasty fighting against each other, we sometimes see in local politics.

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The life of the dead is placed in the memory of the living. (Cicero)

RIP

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Sad news, RIP Ken

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Very sad news. Rest in peace.

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And while there is anyone alive who will speak well of them, they live...if only in our hearts.
No that isn't part of the quotation, just my addition to it. I hope you don't mind Guinness.

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RIP. Sad News. Ken was a true gentleman.

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A true gentleman who lived and worked for the Accrington he loved. Rest in Peace, Ken.

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He should have a plaque in his honour in the town hall.

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Here Here

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Such a lovely man, kind and gentle. There was a minutes silence at St Paul's church this morning for him and prayers were said. x

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A true gentleman and a tireless worker for all the people in hyndburn,but above all he was a bloody good MP and it was a privilege to have lived in the same borough as he did,he will be missed by all who knew him,our loss is heavens gain,R I P Ken. May buddah bless and guide you on your long journey ahead.

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RIP Mr Hargreaves

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There are books of condolences at St Mary's RC Church and in the Area Council offices, plus, I think there is also one at Accrington Town Hall.

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Ken's funeral is next Wednesday at St Mary's church

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What time John?

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Not sure but would imagine either 10am or 11am

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Was a lovely gentleman worked with him at Shopfitters many years ago, and excellent councillor and MP

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Ken's funeral arrangements, 11am Wednesday 4th July St Mary's Ossy. There's also a Mass for Ken on the Tuesday at 7.30pm, again St Mary's.

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living in bangkok,i cant get to the funeral but my thoughts and prayers will be with you Sir ken

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Bowling Green in Rhyddings Park to be named after Ken according to ET. Nice tribute. Personally I would rename Eastgate or some other road for a man who game so much service to Hyndburn.

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Yes...it would be lovely to name Eastgate in his memory.
I wonder if there is anyone from HBC who could facilitate this change.

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The Ken Hargreaves Way. Better sounding than Eastgate.

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I agree....Eastgate sound non-descript....and it would give permanent recognition to a man who did a lot for the people of the borough.

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I'm in favour of that, No question, It seems to have ensured a certain lady in Blackburn will always be remembered, The guy deserves nowt less.;)

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In my opinion he deserves it more that the lady from Blackburn ever did...just my opinion.

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Mine also, but i was being diplomatic.:D;)

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well Cashy, I felt it needed saying. He was such a kind man.
She had a temper to match her hair colour. I saw her give an airport worker at Manchester a right tongue lashing.......a 'don't you know who I am?' kind of tongue lashing.
She went down in my estimation after that......and never came up again.

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The way I read it in the Observer was that re- naming the bowling green in Rhyddings Park after him was considered by Ken to be an honour:)

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Yep thats what it said, i would imagine he would love that, Maybe its just me, but i feel he is worth a bit more than that, fer all he has done fer Hyndburn?

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At a couple of meetings I was at recently it was explained that when asked if he would like something naming after him, Ken suggested the bowling green in Rhyddings Park.

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I think you'll find cashy that Ken was actually asked about it whilst in hospital and naming the bowling green was his choice, but I agree to me renaming Union Road would be a very fitting tribute to Ken, but he was never one for courting the limelight, he was a slip away quietly while no one was looking chap never wanting any attention, in fact I think David Amis summed it up very well during the service when he said Ken would have said E EK all these folk turning up for me, that was Ken

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I can quite see that Ken was a man who sought no limelight for himself, but it would be good to have something in Accrington named after him too...after all he was our MP.

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I too remember Ken RIP.
Funnily enough Margaret, your comment a 'don't know who I am' was officially stated to be offensive here in Italy and anyone using it in a discussion is liable to prosecution!!!

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It was a long time ago....we were waiting to get on a shuttle flight down to Heathrow Airport(probably 1980).....Barbara Castle flounced in (in her red full length fox fur coat) walked straight up to the check in desk and was being a pain in the proverbial to the check in girl......she gave her a right tongue lashing and finished with those words 'Don't you know who I am?'

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Hopefully, the check in girl was used to dealing with stroppy old bags, and treated her with the contempt she deserved! :)

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No, she got a bit flustered and a supervisor was called to deal with the bad tempered harridan

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Ya when she came to Blackburn her husband used to park the Rolls Royce in a pub car park in Chorley along with the fur coat in the boot, then on with the old raincoat and scarf and into an old banger for the rest of the journey :rolleyes:

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It's a pity the girl at Heathrow didn't deal with her like they do in Denver.

This is the perfect way to deal with unpleasant "Do you know who I am?" type of customers.
Do You Know Who I Am?

An award should go to the United Airlines gate agent in Denver for being smart and funny, and making her point, when confronted with a passenger who probably deserved to fly as cargo.

During the final days at Denver's old Stapleton airport, a crowded United flight was canceled.

A single agent was rebooking a long line of inconvenienced travelers. Suddenly an angry passenger pushed his way to the desk. He slapped his ticket down on the counter and said, "I HAVE to be on this flight and it has to be FIRST CLASS."

The agent replied, "I'm sorry sir. I'll be happy to try to help you, but I've got to help these folks first, and I'm sure we'll be able to work something out."

The passenger was unimpressed. He asked loudly, so that the passengers behind him could hear, "Do you have any idea who I am?"

Without hesitating, the gate agent smiled and grabbed her public address microphone.

"May I have your attention please?" she began, her voice bellowing throughout the terminal. "We have a passenger here at the gate WHO DOES NOT KNOW WHO HE IS. If anyone can help him find his identity, please come to gate 17."

With the folks behind him in line laughing hysterically, the man glared at the United agent, gritted his teeth and swore "(Expletive) you."

Without flinching, she smiled and said, "I'm sorry, sir, but you'll have to stand in line for that, too."

The man retreated as the people in the terminal applauded loudly. Although the flight was canceled and people were late, they were no longer angry at United.

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Agreed.

Nice idea, seeing as for years he lived facing the park, but no one's ever going to use the name.

When there used to be two, everyone referred to them as the 'top' or 'bottom bowling green'. Now it's just the 'bowling green', and no one will ever actually use it's new 'Ken Hargreaves memorial bowling green' name. Although they will, when talking about the trophy which apparently is going to be presented in his honour, which is a better idea.

I think the idea of naming something after him in the constituency, which actually has a postal address, would be a much more fitting memorial.

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I think it could only be, as cashy suggested, Eastgate, I think I'm right in saying there are no residences on there so it wouldn't cause any problems with address changes, Ken would have hated that

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Maybe we could just accept what Ken wanted and leave it at that. When I first heard about this I thought it was a lovely idea, made special because it is what he wanted.

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Think your right Neil, but just expressing an opinion about what others have said and to me the only alternative, but the bowling green is a fitting tribute, especially on a sunny summer afternoon, peace and quiet

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Maybe he hadn't thought of anything else..or perhaps further afield.
Yes the naming of the bowling green is a fitting tribute for him in Oswaldtwistle, but he was the MP for Accrington and there should be something there, to memorialise him for his work for the town.
He was a very well respected man...by people of all political shades...because he did what was right for the town...regardless of other considerations.

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Oh are you saying its undeserved?:( The reason has already been mentioned numerous times on this thread.

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No. I’m not saying that he doesn’t deserve it. Far from it.
What I am saying is; why does everything have to be in Accrington.

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It don,t the Park green is a great idea, But Ken represented "ALL" Hyndburn not just were he lived, so incorporating Eastgate or somewhere suitable as well would a lovely tribute to a great bloke simple as.

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I wasn't saying that everything had to be in Accrington.
The bowling green that is to be named after Ken is in Oswaldtwistle - his local area.
Does that mean that Accrington cannot have something which memorialises what Ken did for the town while he was MP.......and was it Hyndburn then......or was it Accrington??
I'm blowed if I can remember when the name Hyndburn was adopted.
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
To change the name of Eastgate(which is anything but inspiring - I bet it took the developers a whole minute to think that one up) to Kenneth Hargreaves Way, would be a permanent reminder of the work this man did for our area.

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Hyndburn 1974 Margaret. Before my time of course. The Eastgate name, I think it was the developers as you say who came up with the name.

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As long ago as that eh? Thanks for that information Bernard.
It doesn't change my opinion that something in Accrington should be named after him.
Eastgate would be favourite, but another person who I have been in conversation with suggested that perhaps the area that is to be the new Bus Station might have a square named after him. His name should be remembered. I hope there are members of HBC who are reading this, that perhaps have some clout to facilitate such a proposal. I am sure it would meet with public approval.

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Its the highways agency not the Council who have the responsibility for the roads and the naming of, although we would be consulted. New housing developments, the Council are consulted about possible names for any new roads, avenues, whatever. And the Council can put suggestions forward to the developers for names. You might remember a few years ago one of our former Councillors, the late Alan Critchlow had a road named after him in Rishton.

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Out of interest I was just looking who was the last M.P. born in the constituency before Ken.

I know his predecessor Arhur Davidson was a scouser, but I was looking where the M.P. before him, Harry Hynd, was born, when I came across this. Which amused me.

The poor locals busy weaving cotton, and here's old Harry topping up his tan.

Thankfully his honourable member is sheathed by a fetching pair of shorts.

'British Members of Parliament, (left to right) Labour MP George Chetwynd, Conservative MP Martin Lindsay, Labour MP George Rogers and Labour MP Harry Hynd stood in front of a sun lamp in the gym in Westminster Hall. Early solarium in Westminster.'

(It didn't say what year it was taken.)

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if people are bothered about where a tribute is located why not name a street,close or avenue in each town or village in hyndburn after him as new houses and estates are built?

argueing over his tributes location is pretty petty and surely the important thing here is that a good man and his efforts have been recognised so whats to be gained by nitpicking over the location.His work will be remembered all over hyndburn especially by those who he helped

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Where on earth did you get the idea that we were arguing? It was a discussion...an exchange of ideas...no heated words were exchanged, no insults were hurled.
It was all very amicable.......and it was done in the hope that it would give the powers that be some idea of what a well liked man he was.

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Interesting fact.

Ken Hargreaves was the first ever Member of Parliament born in this constituency of Hyndburn/Accrington, since it's formation in 1885.

1885 - Frederick William Grafton, born Manchester.

1886 - Robert Hodge, born Newcastle.

1892 - Sir Joseph Francis Leese, born London.

1910 - Harold Trevor Baker, born Porsea Island.

1918 - Sir Ernest Gray, born London.

1922 - Charles Roden Buxton, born Essex.

1924 - John Hugh Edward, born Aberystwyth, Wales.

1929 - Tom Snowden, born Bingley, Yorkshire.

1931 - Henry Adam Proctor, born Liverpool.

1945 - Walter Travers Scott-Elliot, born Arkleton, Scotland.

1950 - Harry Hynd, born Perth, Scotland.

1966 - Arthur Davidson, born Liverpool.

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1983 - Ken Hargreaves, born Oswaldtwistle.

1992 - Greg Pope, born Blackburn.

2010 - Graham Jones, born United States of Europe.

:rolleyes:

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:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:Thanks for the best laugh I've had for a while Rindi, United States of Europe:D:D:D

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Glad it made you laugh.

:D

Sadly you've always got to identify with some grain of truth in any humour, to hopefully make it funny.

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In this mornings Daily Express,Ann Widdecombe had some very excellent things to say about attending the funeral of Ken Hargreaves in the quaintly named Oswaldtwistle, saying what a sharp reminder of the sense of community we have all but lost. She remarked how friends and family were touched by the request that the coffin should go along the high street. People came out of shops and houses to stand to bow their heads as the coffin went by.
Yet I suspect that nobody native to Oswaldtwistle was surprised at a scene that would be unthinkable in a big city,small town or village stuffed with commuters.
She goes on to say,the haste and pressure of modern living has not yet replaced courtesy,decorum and dignity in this quiet corner of England,where traffic is held up and business suspended as the dead pass by.

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Ann spent quite a lot of time in Ossy during the time Ken was MP, and often spoke of the difference between a place like Ossy and where she hails from

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"Royal" Wootton Basset.

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Stuffed with commuters

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Well non locals anyway. :)


Wootton Bassett: A very British way of mourning - Telegraph

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Her words not mine.