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Looking for something else, I came across this.

A list of reported paranormal activities in Lancashire, starting with Accrington.

ghosts, hauntings, legends and old odd tales of lancashire

The only spirits I believe in myself get served with ice, but has anyone here seen or heard the sightings listed here?

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Don't have nightmares.

Most of the people who saw these spooks, were probably full of spirits themselves, at the time.

:D

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Can anyone explain this pic taken at my son'd wedding at Mitton Hall. Where you can see through me on the right?

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Double exposure, picture taken, film not moved on, next picture taken over the previous shot. :) We've had some interesting ones over the years in the days of the old cameras with film.

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No it was taken with a digital camera. Just before the pic was taken the best man and me could smell very sweet smelling wood smoke. When asked if there was any wood fires burning we were told no.

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Why is your son sat with his hands clasp praying, maybe he's wishing you would disappear.:hesoff::hesoff::hesoff:

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He tried but it didn't work.

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I have had several paranormal experiences but none were local.
I have seen some very strange things in hotel rooms which has made me 'a believer'
(cue the Monkees :D)

The Monkees - I'm a Believer [official music video] - YouTube

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Not sure then, but I suppose it could also happen even with a Didgy Camera due to some technical glitch.

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All the rest of the pics were ok. Apparantley the room is haunted.

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:s_aim1:

Me too, but that's more down to slapdash cleaners & dubious previous occupiers. ;)

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Okay so the rooms apparently haunted, so you'd "expect" to find some apparition in your pics & not yourself ................. unless .............. you're an undead & talking to us from beyond the grave !!!!!!! Do you get WiFi hotspots in coffins nowadays ? :D

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I think you are a ghost, has no one mentioned it before, they must have said to you" I know what you are up too, I can see right through you" if they have . Then proof positive. Now that we know, any chance I could have a word with my Gran.

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People say I'm transparent.

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That was quick, almost posted at the same time with the same theory, we must be psychic

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I can read your mind

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When I lived in Church, it was common knowledge that The Stag was haunted.

Over the years landladies confided in me about the strange happenings they witnessed which were identically described, even though they were told years apart.

My last ex witnessed the spontanous unravelling of a chain around the charity bottle on the bar when there was no-one near it. (there was one other witness, and both were sober at the time)

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Ocaisionally I get visual and/or aural hallucinations.

Usually an old, shouty man.

Collarless shirt, black suit, thinning white fuzzy hair, dandruff, watch fob, pasty complexion.

Happily I'm still compos mentis enough (yet) to know what I think I can see, is just the result of a combination of the chemical imbalance in my brain which causes Parkinson's disease, and the drugs I take to help with the symptoms.

I think you'd have to believe in life after death, to accept the existance of spirits, and I don't.

Perhaps if I ever saw something I couldn't explain I'd change my mind.

Though it hasn't happened in the last forty odd years, so the chances seem slim.

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What ? Like a post from Jay with none of his belters ? :D ;)

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I can easily explain it.

He doesn't give a flying...fig, and is even beginning to enjoy the mirth they bring.

:D

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So a dabbler in the dark farts ............ er, arts ! I meant arts ! See it's contagious & supernatural. ;)

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Consider for a moment that maybe the drugs you take for Parkinsons are reactivating the 6th sense which humans lost, so enabling you to see what most people cannot, but which has always been there.

In a similar fashion, shamans take Ayahuasca, in order to meet with the ancestors during an 'altered state of conciousness'. Ayahuasca produces DMT in the brain - a chemical which is naturally produced in the brain but in minute quantities in normal circumstances.

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My thoughts immediately too -have had a few experiences of that with an old-fashioned camera with film...

Don't believe in ghosts and ghouls -must be some technical glitch.:)

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Well i had a few Hallucinations way back................But not wi a camera.:eek::D

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I do take your point, and accept all that.

Though logic takes over, and tells me there isn't really a nowty owd git sat in the corner of my sitting room.

These hallucinations happen in some people with Parkinson's pre-diagnosis, when there's no drug interference. They did with me.

Another common hallucination is rats/scurrying animals.

I see them very life like rats, but the ones I see have long, finger like claws. Odd.

It does suprise me, logic, being an arty-farty old romantic.

But seeing as I don't believe there's any life after death, I'm going to need to see for myself, something spectacularly unexplainable, to believe it.

:D

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The phrase 'life after death' is a little misleading.
When you realise that what we term as matter is energy vibrating at a rate which our limited 5 senses can detect, then 'death' means life energy takes another form which our 5 senses can't observe.

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The brain's a wonderful, complex thing, and we know very little of it's capabilities.

Most people have some very real dreams.

Doesn't mean that what we experience in that state, is real.

Hopefully.

If it does, I think I've committed lewd acts on a tropical beach, that's always just the otherside of Poole harbour.

:D

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I have talked to G about this - I can "hear" my Grandparents "voices" telling me things and giving me advice at particular times -usually when I'm stressed out and need support - I don't believe in life "beyond", it's just my brain working within it's limits with the information it has to hand and what they have said to me over a lifetime-like a giant personalised computer. Also they were and still are important reference points in my life.

In his case it's different and the hallucinations are mostly provoked chemically by the stuff he has to assume every day to control his physical symptoms (more than I could ever imagine having to take)...plus personal experiences with real people. Hats off to him that he can cope, sort it all out in his head and stiill live a full, active and rewarding life.

As to the drug you mention it is much affected by mood when assumed -can give good or bad trips...naturally it may be what reminds us of our lost loved ones and helps memory.

The so-called "sixth sense" for me has always been an innate sense of understanding a set of circmstances, processing them and drawing conclusions.

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I have read a lot about lucid dreaming and have now developed the capacity to control what happens in my dreams.

I recently was escorted to a classy nightclub by Frank Sinatra, and we sang a duet :D

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Well yeh never been fussy.:D

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Margaret, that isn't going to happen.

We'll have to agree to disagree.

We are no different from the thousands of other chemical compositions on this planet, that can sustain a life force.

I believe that life force is finite.

Without certain criteria, it ends.

This is what I know to be true, and I won't think any differently, until I see some evidence which makes me believe otherwise.

Logic tells me, for many, human nature likes to think differently.

It makes sense of something that can be hard to accept.

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Who told you that?

Chuck Berry?

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:D

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I admit it was true:o

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I pride myself on being a fairly perceptive person.

In my line of work, as a soft assed, loud mouthed git, you have to be. Self-presevation.

If I ain't ever detected any paranormal happenings, whilst of sound mind...they don't exist.

;):D

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Still makes me laugh.

You chucking your beret.

:D

I've learned to control dreams, to some extent, but some are just the brain doing it's version of free form abstract art, and there's no real sense to their form, or structure.

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Dreaming is the brain sorting out your recent memories and experiences, & putting them in the correct file, a bit like a pile of torn up photos that you are trying to sort out, like a jig saw, so every thing you dream you have experienced or seen at some time, but not in that order. Some dreams stay with us for a few days, others have gone within minutes of waking.
I've had some real corkers that have wakened me up sweating bobbers, and their gone in a flash, I put them down to some of the things I experienced in the Fire Brigade, especially the gruesome ones.
Trying to pass some of these off as ghosts or spirits, is for those who believe in owt but the truth.
Retlaw

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Seeing ghosts is something totally different to dreaming. Ghosts do not always appear at night.
Those who have had the experience of seeing something paranormal will believe in them.......those who haven't will not....or may be sceptical of such happenings.
People who know me will tell you that I am a level headed sort of person....someone not given to flights of fancy...someone not given to seeing things.
I take no drugs, I do not drink alcohol(or only very rarely and not to excess)......but during my long life I have not only seen things, but heard them....and smelled things associated with people who have passed on.

Working with those who were sick and dying provided experiences I may not have had, had I not been in that line of work. Things happened, (things that cannot be explained satisfactorily).....in daylight hours......not always in old buildings.

Perhaps I am in a minority here.......and we know that when you are in a minority it isn't always wise to confess to being a bit different, because this can lead to others(less experienced /informed) hurling ridicule at you.

Personally, I don't really care what others on here think of me. I know what I have seen. You don't have to believe me.

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Agreed Sir.

Although I question that dreams are versions of things we've actually experienced, or seen at sometime in our lives.

Common dreams are flying like a bird, and being naked, or part dressed in public.

I can understand why the brain would make us have those dreams. Feeling trapped and wanting to escape a situation/being insecure, but I doubt many have actually soared above the Earth, or been to work without their kecks on.

My flying dreams involve swimming through the air.

It's easy. Just a matter of self-belief, and concentration, and away I go.

:D

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I'd never doibt your sincerity, but as you say, on this matter we all believe different things based on our experiences.

I haven't had any that I couldn't rationalise.

If I do, then I'd probably think differently.

It isn't a matter of anyone being right or wrong. Though personally I think the unbelievers are in the minority. The same as with those who don't believe in a life after death.

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Wasn't is Will Shakespeare who said 'There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy' ?
Scepticism is healthy......to question your belief is healthy, but when you have seen 'things' many times perhaps you have to say this is how it is and accept it.

I do not try to convert people to my way of seeing the situation. I accept that others will have different views and opinions...and I respect them for that.

We are all different. I don't think people should be considered 'nutjobs'(not that anyone has actually said that...but I think it has been alluded to) because of what their life expereince has given them.

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I'd never allude that people who believe in this stuff, because they've experience it themselves, are nut jobs.

Mainly because some of my nearest and dearest say they've seen paranormal phenomenom, and I'd get a clout.

:D

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No G....you haven't, but others may have done......or certainly, that is what I have read into some of the responses. (and Yes, I know the internet is a poor medium for getting the nuances across).
It is why I have waited to see how the thread went, before making a post.
I do fall into the category of BOB(batty old bird)...but nutjob?...Never!

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Funny that cashy I was thinking exactly the same thing miself:D

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Are you sure you only take herbal remedies Margaret:D

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Like most people I have dreams, sometimes I can remember my dreams because they are so vivid, yet others, well I wake up know I've been dreaming, but can't remember them, its like having something on the tip of your tongue, but can't bring it out, very strange

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I have to come out in support of Margaret Pilkington here.
Like Margaret I think I've posted on here enough for people to accept(I hope) my feet are on the ground- I was trained to look for facts and act on them only.
I don't believe in ghosts or life after death-we get one go and that's it.
However like Margaret I have seen and experienced things happening around another person which I am totally unable to explain. Some curious, some interesting and a few actually quite frightening.
Somewhere there's a sane explanation but I can't find it. So I have to accept that what happened happened. Until it's happened to you you are right to question it-when it has happened you are left wondering.

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Thank you Gordon...I do appreciate that.
As a two year old I experienced some strange happenings.....this is before the age that a child can reason...at that age you accept what your eyes and your other senses tell you.As my life has progressed other strange occurences have happened too...not just to me, but to people I have looked after, people who mean a lot to me......they haven't been frightening experiences.....in some ways they are enriching.
I do not seek to persuade those who do not believe in the paranormal. I just know what I have seen.
During my career I was taught to observe and to note things carefully...and I believe that skill once taught is not lost.

I feel that for some reason, I must be a receptive person.
I think perhaps we all start out like that, but maybe as we grow older perhaps some of us lose the ability to 'tune in'.
After all, a TV set that is untuned is useless to receive broadcasts.

I don't want to sound too eccentric, because I feel I am grounded and sensible......that is what other people tell me anyway.

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I don't think for a minute that you are batty or barmy -probably just more empathetic than the average person which is quite a different matter. You pick up the human vibes probably more than most having worked with people who were often vulnerable/frightened/sick/dying etc....some try to hide their feelings and only perceptive people will see through them and know how they really are.

Memories and associations of smells etc with certain people are perfectly normal - I sometimes get that shivery sense of Dejà-vu too. It's always triggered off by one of the senses, for example the smell of Imperial leather soap immediately brings to mind my grandad who always used it. If I close my eyes when i smell it I'm in his bathroom and can see it just as it was.

It can work the other way round too -you are thinking of someone consciously or sub-consciously and you can practically smell, see, taste or hear something you associate with them. This is what I believe happens in those moments you can't explain -I may be wrong of course, but the brain is an incredibly complex and powerful organ and not really that well understood.

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People usually believe the explanation that does not involve feeling fear.

The 'fear of the unknown' can be overcome if you make the effort to understand why you feel fear. The 'unknown' (unexplainable) could well be no threat, so why fear it?

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That may be an explanation for you Dianne......but there are occurences which have happened to me in the presence of others which cannot be explained in such a manner.......would two people be having the same thought simultaneously? Would both people have an auditory hallucination at the same time...and if they did, would they both hear exactly the same thing?
And yes, of course the brain is incredibly complex....and much is unknown about the workings of it.
But just because something cannot be explained away by physics/science.does not mean that it doesn't happen.

I magine if you could go back to the middle ages and take with you a working TV set...you'd be tried as a witch - yet we know that there is a scientific explanation for the signals that are received by a tuned in TV set.

My previous explanation of why some people feel things, see things, or hear things is the nearest I can come to rationalising it...though in truth, it really doesn't need to be rationaised...it just needs to be accepted as part of who I am.

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I'm with you again,Margaret. I understand the deja-vu thing, a smell, a sound, a sight(it's happened to me) but that's not what I(or you I think) am talking about.
It's something happening totally out of the blue which is totally alien to what you are doing or thinking at the time. Something not always first noticed by the person who may be what you called 'receptive' but by someone close by, then experienced by both.
'Receptive'- if there is such a capability I certainly don't have it. Nothing ever happened to me on my own.
There's only one rational explanation for it, Margaret- you and I are both mad!

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Gordon - you could very well be right. :)

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No yeh aint both mad,!! Stuff happens to some,which will probably never be explained, So fact it can't be rationalised is no big deal to me, What use would it be? Apart from the fact yeh then know the answer, ;)

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Pesonally I fear nothing. Certainly not death.

It's one of life's certainties. One day it ends.

To me, fear, and the need to believe we as a species are somehow different from any other living organism, is the reason why every human civilisation comes up with their own verson of an afterlife.

We live.

We die.

Just like a mushroom.

Unless I'm presented with some shocking evidence about a visitation from some spiritual funghi, it's unlikely I'll be changing my thinking, about what I know to be true, anytime soon.

These are just my own thoughts on this matter.

I neither care if others think it's right, or wrong, or want to influence others.

It just makes very real sense to me.

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that is all that matters...for it make sense to you.

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Yup.

:D

Though I didn't think this thread was going to be about the existance, or not, of the paranormal.

I was hoping that someone might have some knowledge of the local incidents listed in the link in 1#.

:D

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Well I don't know if you've heard about the very eerie happenings at the pub which, along with your parents, was my local in the 70s Rindi. The Stop and Rest Fielding Lane, the landlord went on holiday and he got an ex-landlord in as relief, Jack Catlow, one night myself Jack and my mate Stuart, both are no longer with us, stopped behind for a drink, the doors to the snug were both locked, we were sat having a drink at the bar when we all heard the snug door open, thought you'd locked that Jack, I have was the reply, the air then went ice cold, he went to check everything was still locked, I have never vacated a pub as quick in my life, no need to be asked to drink up, it was gone. When the landlord return and we told him he just laughed and said ah you've seen oud Bill have ya:eek::eek: seemingly oud Bill was a former landlord and he was just checking everything was locked up:D

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I'm with Marg P too ... I have a ghost in my house; it's no big deal.

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I like your sense of priorities, jaysay!
Ghost or no ghost, finish your beer before you run for it.

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Too right Gordon to right mate:D

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I'm with Margaret P, lived in a house that was haunted, found it strange, not particularly threatening but not right pleasant at times! Seen the odd flying object and heard some strange and unexplainable noises,but that's it so far!

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Get lots of strange unexplainable noises in our house as well, most of them seem to emanate from face aches various orifices.
Retlaw

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Ya always did have a way with words :D:D

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I had a two storey office block in one of our factories, about forty people worked there during the day. No problems.
At night the offices were empty and the security men used to go round the factory in pairs.
They would go in the lower office checking but none of them would go on the upstairs balcony or in the upstairs office.
They were nearly all ex policemen so fairly hardened but they said if you walked on the balcony or into the office at night you felt really uneasy and bad. They couldn't explain the feeling exactly but said it was bad enough to make them miss that office out.
No one had a story , ghost or otherwise, to explain it, it was just accepted.

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There was a story about the Cav in Blackburn having a spook, who roamed round during the night, two of use once volunteered to stand in one night because the usual watchman rang in sick, there was definitely something strange went on about 5am, but the memory was a bit foggy, well they did leave a few bottles of larger out for refreshments:D:D