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Guinness 07-07-2012 21:51

Coming from Mars is so less complicated
 
I'd argue it's stories like this that 'put women off sport', and also 'put women off being women'

BBC News - Women athletes fear pressures over appearance

The only people who believe in the 'perfect' woman is...wait for it....women.

Brainwashed by 'girly' magazines to believe that all blokes want either, the latest fashion stick insect, Jodie Marsh, Cheryl Cole or (god forbid) Katie Price. It's typical that this piece was written by....wait for it..... women.

I think of myself as a typical bloke, ok i'm well past my prime but I can still look and admire. :P

Us typical blokes don't have an ideal 'perfect' woman, we like fat, thin, spotty, unblemished, smart, dumb, shapely and unshapely. We most definitely do not like the airbrushed, malnourished, publicity seeking rent-a-totties in the aforemetioned girly mags.

Women fought for the vote, then they fought for equality, now they appear to be fighting amongst themselves over what makes them attractive to men, without actually asking..men!

cashman 07-07-2012 22:10

Re: Coming from Mars is so less complicated
 
Apart from a few teenage years, only thing ever attracted me was personality.

mobertol 08-07-2012 08:18

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Glad to see there are some decent Martians out there after all!:D

jaysay 08-07-2012 09:45

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Well I always thought women were from Venus and men were from Mars:rolleyes::D

MargaretR 08-07-2012 09:48

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I always admired intelligent men

but never found one that fancied me.

Maybe I wasn't intelligent enough for them :D

jaysay 08-07-2012 10:37

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Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1001686)
I always admired intelligent men

but never found one that fancied me.

Maybe I wasn't intelligent enough for them :D

Well we've never met Margaret:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

DaveinGermany 08-07-2012 11:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Guinness (Post 1001651)
Us typical blokes don't have an ideal 'perfect' woman,

The perfect Woman ............ is a fabled myth ! :) Most of us fellas will settle for myth right now. ;) Then when we get older & more sensible ???? If our Lass is prepared to put up with us & do for us warts & all, well then, I'd say we're pretty close to finding perfection.

Eric 08-07-2012 15:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1001654)
Apart from a few teenage years, only thing ever attracted me was personality.

Of course, a fantastic ass and a nice rack are great too:alright: "Personality" and stuff like that complicates things too much. Maybe my mind never left its teenage years.;)

If a man wants a true, loving, loyal companion, he should get himself a dog.:dancedog:

jaysay 08-07-2012 17:33

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1001715)
The perfect Woman ............ is a fabled myth ! :) Most of us fellas will settle for myth right now. ;) Then when we get older & more sensible ???? If our Lass is prepared to put up with us & do for us warts & all, well then, I'd say we're pretty close to finding perfection.

Oh come on Dave we all know the perfect woman is a deaf and dumb nymphomaniac who's father has a pub:D

mobertol 08-07-2012 17:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1001756)
If a man wants a true, loving, loyal companion, he should get himself a dog.:dancedog:

The same could be said by us Venutians Eric!:rolleyes:;):D

Retlaw 08-07-2012 19:17

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1001768)
Oh come on Dave we all know the perfect woman is a deaf and dumb nymphomaniac who's father has a pub:D

If that was true all men would be dead before they were 40.
The real truth is, that the day after the wedding the nyph dies and the maniac lives on as a punishment. Adam must have really upset God over something, and he's had it in for the rest of us ever since.

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2012 19:43

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You only even need two phrases.........or maybe three if you really want all the brownie points.
1) I'm sorry(said in a tone like he means it)
2) I was wrong(again, said like it is meant)
3) You are right darling(see the riders on 1&2)
Life would be far less complicated if boys were taught this from about the age of 4. :D
Now I'm going to duck!

Retlaw 08-07-2012 20:36

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1001793)
You only even need two phrases.........or maybe three if you really want all the brownie points.
1) I'm sorry(said in a tone like he means it)
2) I was wrong(again, said like it is meant)
3) You are right darling(see the riders on 1&2)
Life would be far less complicated if boys were taught this from about the age of 4. :D
Now I'm going to duck!

Why is it that men have to apologise, especially when its the female thats wrong most of the time. There are 3 kinds of logic, (1) a 3mm nut will only fit on a 3mm bolt. (2) computer logic which only a few nerds understand. (3) female logic which is as wide and varied as there are women on this planet, and operates in 28 day cycles, so female logic is 28 x years x number of women on earth.

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2012 21:03

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Not for me Retlaw, the cyclical logic disappeared more than 20 years ago...and as for the rest, refer to rule 1 and 2...and you won't go wrong.
Happy wife means happy life.

Eric 08-07-2012 21:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1001793)
You only even need two phrases.........or maybe three if you really want all the brownie points.
1) I'm sorry(said in a tone like he means it)
2) I was wrong(again, said like it is meant)
3) You are right darling(see the riders on 1&2)
Life would be far less complicated if boys were taught this from about the age of 4. :D
Now I'm going to duck!

Three things:eek: Too complicated. Men don't do the multi-tasking stuff. Unless of course it involves watching the game, drinking beer, eating pizza, and operating the remote.:alright:Men need know only one thing: When a man hears "quality time", its time to head for the hills.:D

Margaret Pilkington 08-07-2012 21:21

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Drinking beer, eating Pizza and operating the remote control...three things that most men can do, as well as watch the game......maybe we can work on the transfer of these skills to areas that are compatible with a happy life.......after all, they are just phrases to be learned...and said at the appropriate time, with the right kind of feeling........we KNOW that they don't actually mean it......but it is the grease of social interaction, makes the wheels turn.......no grease...no action:D.
It isn't really multi-tasking.

Retlaw 08-07-2012 22:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1001825)
Drinking beer, eating Pizza and operating the remote control...three things that most men can do, as well as watch the game......maybe we can work on the transfer of these skills to areas that are compatible with a happy life.......after all, they are just phrases to be learned...and said at the appropriate time, with the right kind of feeling........we KNOW that they don't actually mean it......but it is the grease of social interaction, makes the wheels turn.......no grease...no action:D.
It isn't really multi-tasking.

You still haven't presented a logical reason why we should lie, just to appease a womans illogical feelings, she shouldn't have created the situation in the first place. As you quoted "we KNOW that they don't actually mean it"
Mind boggling.

Margaret Pilkington 09-07-2012 07:31

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Retlaw, your mind must be boggled very easily.
As for lying, men do it very easliy.....'I'm just going for a swift half' six hours later he's not back and his dinner is in the dog.
Maybe this impacts on the (so called) illogical feelings of women.
This thread was, I'm sure, not meant to be serious.
So just unboggle that wonderful mind of yours and smile.........as for the logic and illogicality(is there such a word) of men and women respectively.
I once heard a stall holder on the market say 'Eeh, aren't women queer'.......'Yes' I told him. 'They were made to match men'.

I have been married now for 46 years....so together we must be doing something right.

jaysay 09-07-2012 08:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1001862)
Retlaw, your mind must be boggled very easily.
As for lying, men do it very easliy.....'I'm just going for a swift half' six hours later he's not back and his dinner is in the dog.
Maybe this impacts on the (so called) illogical feelings of women.
This thread was, I'm sure, not meant to be serious.
So just unboggle that wonderful mind of yours and smile.........as for the logic and illogicality(is there such a word) of men and women respectively.
I once heard a stall holder on the market say 'Eeh, aren't women queer'.......'Yes' I told him. 'They were made to match men'.

I have been married now for 46 years....so together we must be doing something right.

Oh come on Margaret this thread was started by MargeretR, how can it be serious:D

susie123 09-07-2012 08:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1001864)
Oh come on Margaret this thread was started by MargeretR, how can it be serious:D

No John, it was started by Guinness. Margaret R has only made one post.

MargaretR 09-07-2012 08:56

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In old age men become just different shaped people.

When sexuality and stereotyped gender roles are no longer a factor, they do appear to the weaker of the two body types - both in stamina and emotional maturity.

jaysay 09-07-2012 09:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1001875)
In old age men become just different shaped people.

When sexuality and stereotyped gender roles are no longer a factor, they do appear to the weaker of the two body types - both in stamina and emotional maturity.

How long have you been a man Margaret:eek::eek::eek::eek:

MargaretR 09-07-2012 09:04

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To be obsessed with gender is primitive - we are all just humans.

jaysay 09-07-2012 09:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1001878)
To be obsessed with gender is primitive - we are all just humans.

Ya but some are more human than others:rolleyes:

Margaret Pilkington 09-07-2012 09:58

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I agree Margaret....and the lines of gender have becomes so blurred now........I know some men who are really just old women....and worst of all they would agree with me.
(but then maybe they are lying - work it out)

Eric 09-07-2012 19:20

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1001879)
Ya but some are more human than others:rolleyes:

I prefer to be primitive.;)

Eric 09-07-2012 19:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1001862)
Retlaw, your mind must be boggled very easily.
As for lying, men do it very easliy.....'I'm just going for a swift half' six hours later he's not back and his dinner is in the dog.
Maybe this impacts on the (so called) illogical feelings of women.
This thread was, I'm sure, not meant to be serious.
So just unboggle that wonderful mind of yours and smile.........as for the logic and illogicality(is there such a word) of men and women respectively.
I once heard a stall holder on the market say 'Eeh, aren't women queer'.......'Yes' I told him. 'They were made to match men'.

I have been married now for 46 years....so together we must be doing something right.

As you have been married for 46 years, you should have figured out by now that when a guy says he is "going out for a beer", "a" does not mean "one".:rolleyes: In the history of guydom and beer, it never has meant a single beer, and it never will. To expect him home before they call time, cut him off, or forcibly eject him (some of us on here are all too familiar with this last mode of leaving a bar) is ... well ... illogical;)

Margaret Pilkington 09-07-2012 21:39

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Of course I have Eric...like I was telling Retlaw...men do not need encouragement to stretch the truth...they do it already...and the best of it is we know they do it.

Anyway mine doesn't go out to the pubs for a drink now...he says a lot of the pubs are full of daft kids...he prefers to have a gin or three at home(beer doesn't agree with him these days - gives him chronic indigestion).

jaysay 10-07-2012 08:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1001959)
I prefer to be primitive.;)

Thought you always were Eric:D

jaysay 10-07-2012 08:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1001989)
Of course I have Eric...like I was telling Retlaw...men do not need encouragement to stretch the truth...they do it already...and the best of it is we know they do it.

Anyway mine doesn't go out to the pubs for a drink now...he says a lot of the pubs are full of daft kids...he prefers to have a gin or three at home(beer doesn't agree with him these days - gives him chronic indigestion).

Sorry Margaret I've never been a fisherman really so don't know how to stretch the truth:D

Margaret Pilkington 10-07-2012 09:00

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You don't need to be a fisherman John......don't tell me that you never told your lady that you were going out for a swift half at 2pm and stumbled home at stupid o clock...most men that I know have done that trick. Beer goggles must inhibit the ability to check the time.......and Yes, Eric...I know that a swift half usually means the whole afternoon...but not midnight(or later).

jaysay 10-07-2012 09:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1002021)
You don't need to be a fisherman John......don't tell me that you never told your lady that you were going out for a swift half at 2pm and stumbled home at stupid o clock...most men that I know have done that trick. Beer goggles must inhibit the ability to check the time.......and Yes, Eric...I know that a swift half usually means the whole afternoon...but not midnight(or later).

:eek::eek::eek:Your joking, she'd cut me off by mi stocking tops Margaret:eek::D

Margaret Pilkington 10-07-2012 09:59

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And that would be a deterrent?

jaysay 10-07-2012 10:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1002032)
And that would be a deterrent?

If you've met my other half:eek: Yes:D

Eric 12-07-2012 22:08

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Hey, this is one kraut who def has the rite idea:alright:

German mayor defends 'men only' parking spots - World - CBC News

Let's hear it for the Martians:dancedog::D

What's complicated about the fact that women don't know how to park?

Margaret Pilkington 13-07-2012 06:46

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Well Eric I was once told that it was because a man once showed a lady something and told her it was nine inches...this gave her a distorted sense of size and proportion.

I have to say...personally....and I drove for twenty five years or more....I never ever had any difficulty in parking my car.

It is a huge generalisation to say that women cannot park a car...and worse still to infer that it is because they are WOMEN......not that they have not had the appropriate driver education...because that is what it boils down to.
Practice when you are learning is the key. My driving instructor was like a dog with a bone......I had to do it until I was proficient at it.
Sorry to get on the soapbox Eric, but it was a slur agains those of us who can park.

jaysay 13-07-2012 08:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1002486)
Hey, this is one kraut who def has the rite idea:alright:

German mayor defends 'men only' parking spots - World - CBC News

Let's hear it for the Martians:dancedog::D

What's complicated about the fact that women don't know how to park?

Ya its been featured on Breakfast TV this morning, mind you I think you've won a do if you find a woman who can park between the white lines on a car park:D

Studio25 13-07-2012 08:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1002500)
...It is a huge generalisation to say that women cannot park a car...

It's a huge generalisation to say that men can park a car. I've looked back at my parking three times in the last week and wondered if I should get back in and straighten up. One day it was so bad I actually did...

Margaret Pilkington 13-07-2012 08:16

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Yes, you are right......it is something that has to be taught...and if it isn't taught well then it doesn't matter what gender you are it will take you time to formulate your own strategies to do it well....to be fiar, I think some people are just lazy parkers......they know how to park but don't bother to do it well, for whatever reason.
I hate those who park with their vehicle halfway on the pavement. They do not realise that mothers with prams are inconvenienced...wheelchair users too.

jaysay 13-07-2012 08:31

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1002508)
Yes, you are right......it is something that has to be taught...and if it isn't taught well then it doesn't matter what gender you are it will take you time to formulate your own strategies to do it well....to be fiar, I think some people are just lazy parkers......they know how to park but don't bother to do it well, for whatever reason.
I hate those who park with their vehicle halfway on the pavement. They do not realise that mothers with prams are inconvenienced...wheelchair users too.

Ha so you've been to look at Blackburn Road too Margaret:D

Eric 13-07-2012 14:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1002505)
Ya its been featured on Breakfast TV this morning, mind you I think you've won a do if you find a woman who can park between the white lines on a car park:D

Right ... maybe if they painted the lines a prettier color:rolleyes:

Whatever. Men don't dust; and women can't park. Mention to a man that he can't dust and he will just shrug his shoulders and wander off to the pub.:alright: Mention to women that they can't park and they leap onto soap boxes and vent, when they should be at home dusting. Bright side is, the roads and parking lots are safer when they are out of the way, jumping about on soapboxes. Men concentrate on their driving when they are parking; women look in their rear views, checking their makeup and looking for split ends, and park by ear.:D

Margaret Pilkington 13-07-2012 14:17

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Eric....you are generalising...and this business about men shrugging their shoulders and women leaping onto their soap box and having a rant...is this meant to suppress healthy debate? Like when you call someone a racist, they shut up for fear of the PC brigade?
I can dust, but don't much care for it...and I can park a car..because it was taught to me very well by my driving instructor - more years ago that I care to remember.
He would tell me that there were just as many bad drivers in each gender. That some were so, because they had been badly taught...and that others had learned sloppy driving habits.....and had not much consideration for other road users.

maxthecollie 13-07-2012 15:10

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You need to come up near us when it's school start or finish time. The way some of the parents park with 75% of their vehicle on the pavement, not enough room for a pram, wheelchair or mobility scooter to pass. When I rang the police to say it was illegal I was told that they have nowhere else to park.

Margaret Pilkington 13-07-2012 15:18

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So they have nowhere else to park...that makes it legal does it?
The police patrol the school near me and notices have gone up about illegal parking.
Parking on the pavement damages the paving stones.....and is hazardous to wheelchair users and prams....they have to go into the road to get around parked vehicles....a dangerous thing to do.

jaysay 13-07-2012 17:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1002542)
You need to come up near us when it's school start or finish time. The way some of the parents park with 75% of their vehicle on the pavement, not enough room for a pram, wheelchair or mobility scooter to pass. When I rang the police to say it was illegal I was told that they have nowhere else to park.

Ya Frank and just remind me who is it that usually does the school run:confused::confused::confused::confused:Oh yes its mummy:D:D

jaysay 13-07-2012 17:22

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I remember one Sunday morning a few years ago, I looked out of my front window and for the only time since I moved into Mallard Place 26 years ago the car park was completely empty, there are I should think around car parking spaces for 18 cars, of which 3 were designated for the use of disabled drivers. The first car to pull on the car park was a young woman, she was about 19 or 20 years old, where did she park, in one of the designated disabled bays:idunno:

cashman 13-07-2012 17:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1002542)
You need to come up near us when it's school start or finish time. The way some of the parents park with 75% of their vehicle on the pavement, not enough room for a pram, wheelchair or mobility scooter to pass. When I rang the police to say it was illegal I was told that they have nowhere else to park.

That is lazy policing in my book, yeh should have asked "How" their excuse makes it legal.;)

MargaretR 13-07-2012 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1002563)
The first car to pull on the car park was a young woman, she was about 19 or 20 years old, where did she park, in one of the designated disabled bays:idunno:

Being aged 19 or 20 does mean she wasn't disabled.
I can't see how you can judge her unless you know her.
She may well have been on a waiting list for heart surgery for all you know.

jaysay 13-07-2012 18:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MargaretR (Post 1002575)
Being aged 19 or 20 does mean she wasn't disabled.
I can't see how you can judge her unless you know her.
She may well have been on a waiting list for heart surgery for all you know.

Margaret I knew the Girl very well, she was as fit as a butchers dog in more ways than one belive me, thats why I noticed her:D

Studio25 14-07-2012 08:37

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1002508)
...I hate those who park with their vehicle halfway on the pavement. They do not realise that mothers with prams are inconvenienced...wheelchair users too.

It could be worse...
Google Maps

jaysay 14-07-2012 08:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1002673)
It could be worse...
Google Maps

Definitely Reggy Molehusband that Studio:D

maxthecollie 14-07-2012 09:11

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1002559)
Ya Frank and just remind me who is it that usually does the school run:confused::confused::confused::confused:Oh yes its mummy:D:D

The immitation bobbies ( P.C.S.O. s) have been up patrolling when the school was coming out , but they do not have the power of issuing tickets, which is what these inconsiderate parents need. All the police say is give us some registrations and we will send them a warning. I have never seen one booked.


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