Hyndburn Foreign Policy II
 

Oh Dear! It would now appear that our elected representatives – not being satisfied with taking up the cause of the Islamic terrorists of Kashmir are now extending the Borough’s foreign policy sphere of influence. The honourable member for Hyndburn has apparently written to the foreign office to voice his concerns about the treatment of the terrorist Rohingya people of Burma.
Anyway, here’s the link to the local rag:

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/blackburndarwenhyndburnribble/9896492.Burmese_violence_worrying_Hyndburn_MP/

Of all the people in all the world who suffer from various degrees of oppression, I wonder why Mr Jones has chosen this lot. Why not the Coptic Christians of Egypt...or the Christians of Pakistan? What does he have to say about the 11 year old Christian girl in Pakistan, accused of burning the Koran and despite her learning difficulties, is shortly due to be executed. Why does he not open his gob about that and get his statement in the LT?

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Oh dear Lord.

Give me the strength to carry on the fight.

What about making a big stink about the appalling human rights abuses, in countries where women are third class citizens, and people are regularly killed because they happen to love someone of an unacceptable gender, in many, many Islamic countries throughout the world?

Come on Jones, why not start attacking the vile attrocities carried out in Saudi Arabia?

Or Pakistan, say?

Why's Burma any different?

Not many registered voters of Burmese heritage, here in Hyndburn?

Tap, tap, tap.

There goes another nail in the coffin.

I'd guess 95% of your constituents couldn't give a flying fig what's happening in Burma, when they have what they'd consider so many other real worries, much closer to home.

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Ya only this morning it was reported that 17 people including 2 women had been beheaded in Afghanistan, for the hyenas crime of enjoying themselves, pity he's not a tad worried about that.

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Aye...I wonder how many Afgan refugees we've got in Hyndburn and how many Burmese?

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And how many Hyenas?:confused::D

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What, nicking the Lions Dinner money ? Giving the Meerkats wedgies ? What exactly have they done ? It's a tough "Hood" the Serengeti. ;) :D

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Look, Jay, you've been told about this before. When you get the notion of using one of those clever, posh words like "heinous" just ask an adult first! ;)

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Wasn't this other out of touch, wanna-be big shot politican, something of a Burmese freedom fighter too?

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ate-10446.html

You live, and learn.

Well, some do.

Approximately 95%.

Some don't.

:rolleyes:

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Hey up....it gets better. It looks like he's been mucking about on the West Bank. I wonder who paid for this little jaunt...Hamas (in other words, Syria or Iran)...the Israeli's (I doubt it)...or the tax payer (me and thee)?

Here it is:

Graham Jones MP: Israeli soldiers break the silence on abuse

By the way, can anyone tell me what is the predominate religion of the Palestinians?

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Well it looked right when I had a bee (oh no not bee) in my bonnet:rolleyes:

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Could have cheetah-ed at cards... if they had the hippo-rtunity.

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I wonder how long it will be before Mr Jones joins Mr Galloway's Respect Party?

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Am I right in assuming that there are no problems in Hyndburn serious or pressing enough to merit the attention of the Honorable Member?

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None at all Eric, everything is Hunky Dory.:rolleyes::D

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I think you'll find they're Muslim.

Suprisingly.

Odd that.

You reckon there's a definite theme developing here, regarding li'l ol' Hyndburn's internationalist policies?

Anti-Indian.

Anti-Zionist.

Perhaps if Ivan the Terrible has been a Muslim, Hyndburn would be backing him one hundred percent.

If there were votes in it.

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The only "theme" developing here is yours and some others minds..I mean despite what you claim you have shown racist tendencies in the past

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Yeh never been more wrong in yer life Mancie.

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Oh I probably have.. but seems to me this thread about the local MP has been turned into a debate about race and religion by a couple of posters

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Oh really?

That does suprise me.

Care to put your money where your mouth is, and back up your outlandish claim with any actual evidence of this, with a quote, say?

Good luck.

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No it isn't, it's about political whoring, in the hope of securing more votes.

Everyone here knows that the sadly blinded, party faithful apologists, such as yourself, would be gleefully joining in...if the politican in question came from any other party, other than Labour.

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I'm certain the plight of the Rohingya tribes in Burma is one with which we'd all sympathise, (if we remotely knew anything about it) alongside the plight of thousands of other tribes/communities/groups across the world who are subject to oppression.

The interesting point here is why the MP has singled out this particular issue rather than any of the thousands of others, given that the Burmese community in his constituency has hardly been vocal in calling for his support.

I think the majority of his constituents would prefer him to concentrate on issues nearer to home. Like why it takes 52 minutes to travel a couple of hundred yards from Union Street to the Royal Bank of Scotland.......

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If Graham Jones had the balls, and really cared about international human rights abuses, which at least had some relevance to this constituency, he'd be using his position to highlight issues such as some of those mentioned in this link...



World Report 2012: Pakistan | Human Rights Watch


'Pakistan had a disastrous year in 2011, with increasing attacks on civilians by militant groups, skyrocketing food and fuel prices, and the assumption of near-total control of foreign and security policy by a military that operated with complete impunity. Religious minorities faced unprecedented insecurity and persecution. Freedom of belief and expression came under severe threat as Islamist militant groups murdered Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer and Federal Minorities’ Minister Shahbaz Bhatti over their public support for amending the country’s often abused blasphemy laws. Pakistan’s elected government notably failed to provide protection to those threatened by extremists, or to hold the extremists accountable.'

Women’s Rights

'Mistreatment of women and girls—including rape, domestic violence, and forced marriage—remains a serious problem. Public intimidation of, and threats to, women and girls by religious extremists increased in major cities in 2011.

In a disappointing development, the government failed to honor its commitment to reintroduce the Domestic Violence (Prevention and Protection) Bill, unanimously passed by the National Assembly in August 2009, but lapsed after the Senate failed to pass it within three months as required under Pakistan's constitution. In April the Supreme Court upheld a 2005 ruling by the provincial Lahore High Court acquitting five of the six men accused of the gang-rape of Mukhtar Mai, a villager from Muzaffargarh district in Punjab province, who was raped on the orders of a village council in 2002.'

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:confused:What religion was Attila the Hun:rolleyes:

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Protestant? :confused:

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He called himself "The scourge of God" -probably an atheist as well as a barbarian;):D

His foreign policy was fairly crushing - Mongolian rights - I'm sure they need addressing too..

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So your saying he was a tad right wing then:D:D

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Just a common or garden megalomaniac with a fairly strong persecution complex:rolleyes::D

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Um sounds more like Lenin that Di:D

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Can we conclude that Left/Right - are pretty much the same at the end of the day?:rolleyes:

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Ya glad I'm middle of the road like cashy:D

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Certainly he was a Tory.:D

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No joy yet?

Do keep trying.

All evidence greatly appreciated.

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Happy to but my gob in..you introduced race and religion into the debate.

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Let me help you.

Mentioning both race, and religion, in a discussion about some Hyndburn politicans' international policies, is perfectly acceptable. Especially as there seems to be some sort of pro-Muslim theme being advanced by these polices...for some, as yet, unknown reason.

Let me give you a little more help, and remind you of the label, you rather lamely, and so far unseuccesfully, tried to attach to myself.

'In the past'.

Prior to anything posted in this thread. Not that I've exhibited ''racist tendencies' in this thread, anyway.

Again, please supply any evidence at all to back up your outlandish claim, that in the past I've shown myself as having racist tendencies.

As before, the very best of luck, in your search for any evidence that would make you right.

Instead of a nasty, bitter, mistaken, little sour chops.

Waiting...with bated breath.

:rolleyes:

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Never said race or religion in any debate was not acceptable.. I said you brought it into the debate and you did..you reckon there is some kind of pro-muslim theme going on and fair enough if that is your view but you can't have it both ways..you introduced religion into this thread.. banged to rights.

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So as everyone knew, you can't produce a single shred of evidence, to back up your earlier wild claim that...

If this was a court, you'd be fined for wasting valuable time.

Case dismissed.

Poor, deluded soul.

Need help.

Bless you.

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Many thanks to the court for the leniency of a fine...seeing as your are a now a defunct "life time socialist" with an extreme right wing attitude I'm lucky to not be shot or get my arms chopped off.

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Besides, it was Hyndburn's politicans who brought religion into this discussion, because of their international policies.

'Forget about all the empty shops in Accy, we want independence for a Muslim Kashmiri state, and we want it now!'

Our local politicans apparently support so many Muslim causes, and yet seemingly ignore other world religions, who sometimes suffer horrific human rights abuses, for merely wanting to follow their faiths.

When Jones & Co. grow a pair, and stop licking arse, in the hope of winning votes, by such blatantly skewed campaining, I, and others, will cease with the criticism.

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I'm many things, but I'm not unnecessarily cruel.

I'd let you live out your days in some asylum...with the other imbeciles.

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You mean since Jones & co stopped licking your arse your days now seem boring..:D.. get over it rent pussy.:D

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Returning to the thread...
I came across this sickening story, via a forum for aircrew.
Venezuela investigates alleged massacre in Amazon tribal village | Reuters

I wonder if our incumbent MP would care o comment, or is it there are not many South American votes in Hyndburn?

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Leave it with him.

That should be fine.

Mosques are few, and far between, that far deep in the rainforest.

:rolleyes:

I did manage to get a shout out for Accy Web, in the comments section of the Telegraph.

http://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk...g_Hyndburn_MP/

:D

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Then again if the local MP showed any interest of the latest massive influx of Aboriginal Australians to Accy he would get the same slaggin. :D

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Nah they never got this far, they stopped off to watch the Fulham match.:D

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Like I say don't reckon they'd be turned away at Rovers.. what with all the jump ship "supporters" you lot had :D

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There you are, li'l Squirrel Nutkin!

Concerned about you.

We thought you'd gone into an early hibernation.

Plus it's always a worry for us, you not having any nuts down there.

;)

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Well have to say thank you for the concern..especially the "we" ..I mean who are these people?.. :confused:

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Your friends in the north Vern.

Friends in the north.

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British Muslims approach Cameron for emergency response

^
Bend over backwards support from our M.P. Graham Jones.





Pakistan: Catholic human rights activist says blasphemy case against child is "engineered" on Independent Catholic News

^
This, and other reported, and ever increasing cases of horrific human rights abuses, based on gender, sexual orientation, and political and/or religious difference...deathly silence.

Shame on you!

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It is a royal expression that an old queen used ;)

("we are not amused" - victoria )

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Don't include me in that:D

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Oh I like the little Lancashire born Artful Dodger.

He was one of the best dippers there was on Borough High Street, until the gin took him.

:rolleyes:

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I'd never presume to speak for you.

I'm fluent in quite a few languages, but never quite managed to get my tongue around Crap.

;)

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Well he might be Lancashire born but London ain't far enough for me, upper reaches of the Amazon would be perfect :D

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You'll have to change your signature, if you're going down the homophobic route.

Short hair, stout flat shoes, umpteen failed relationships with men, we'll start thinking that you might have issues.

:rolleyes:

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Ya mean the Rosa Klebb look Rindi, complete with poison dagger in the shoe tip:D

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Sadly for some, there was a faulty batch, and the poisoned tip shot straight up, into those wearing them, instead of going outwards.

Rendering it useless as a weapon, but potentially fatal to the poor souls who wore them.

;)

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Was one of the side effects a poison tongue:rolleyes:

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That depends.

Which one are we talking about?

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Ya I forget white man he speak with forked tongue:rolleyes:

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A severely short haircut, slacks, and a stout pair of shoes, does not a man make.

;)

Hopefully.

:rolleyes:


:eek:

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God lord -thank gooodness -thought you had me in mind...;):D

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Of course that's not you.

Silly, giddy kipper, goose.














Your description, that I had to supply for the police, was much more detailed.

:D

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Sounds great but not true..dig all you like you won't find anything.. which is more than can be said for your regular "dipping" down the keks of those young lads around Piccadilly! ;)

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Give over Mancie-luv, was a regular myself round Piccadilly in the mid-80's -more "dirt" this way if you really want to start diggin'...:D

Perhaps you are jealous because you weren't there and missed the action...:rolleyes:

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In fact I am still on the run though Interpol occasionally knocks on the door ...I do still look so innocent -thank goodness!

Mary Poppins Li'l sister;):D

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Have a heart you lot - once we send somebody to represent us in Parliament their party then expect them to join committees and debate on various other matters than what's best (in his view) for Hyndburn.

Now that Burma has stopped isolating itself from the world and is holding out the begging bowl we in the west need something in return. If we don't want another massive influx of asylum seekers, I think we need to try to alleviate the tribal situation. I once saw a documentary a few years back where a journalist had secretly sailed down a Burmese river and had come across tribal villagers deep in the forest who were hiding from the Burmese army who were doing a bit of ethnic cleansing.

As for the Palestinian situation - Blair has always said it's their own fault. I think our MP was right to publish the other side of the coin.

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Rather difficult, when our M.P. has already used this forum to prove himself a hypocrite.

The criticism, about what international causes he chooses to support, will cease when he uses his position to highlight the many, and ever increasing, human rights abuses which are at this minute being carried out in other places in the world, like Pakistan.

He stops the bias.

We stop the criticism.

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It's amazing, well not really, it's shameful, the number of Labour politicans who represent a sizable ethnic minority population, and who have the balls to speak the truth, only when they've announced their retirement, and aren't up for re-election.

:mad:

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Aye...but don't forget Britcliffe. He kicked this one off with his support for those who in turn support Kashmiri terrorism. I just wonder if a prerequisite for a Hyndburn elected representative is the absence of moral scruples and personal bankruptcy of political principle. Surely there must be one or two good 'uns amongst 'em?

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Think that will be a pass Tealeaf:rolleyes:

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Aha - thanks for the explanation.... I obviously missed his post(s). As for the Pakistani cleric who explained and then illustrated how to rid the country of Christians; I have plenty to say........ but it's best that I don't.

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Message Cllr. Moss.

They're always looking for people like you.

:D

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Oh I haven't forgotten.

Nor have I forgotten the list of those thanked, the visiting propagandists gave, and which I posted.

Praise, and thanks were heaped on both the Conservative, and Labour leaders, who'd both supported the anti-Indian lobby group's visit to council chambers.