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Next thing they want to bring in is a banking supervisor and they want the banking union. That means EU controlling all countries budgets. Anyone noticed that one of the logo's for EU is a single eye! |
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i dont agree with the wastage but they did contribute towards blackpool which is looking good.dont know if the tories would have contributed;):p
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One good thing Thatcher did was to handbag the other EU leaders into giving us a sizeable rebate to make up for the fact that we're paying through the nose to be in this rotten, corrupt club. Unfortunately, that odious creature, Blair (who doubtless you voted for), gave away a considerable portion of that rebate in return for vague promises on CAP reform which naturally have never been kept. :rolleyes: |
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Same with the EU...with all the nonsense laws they pass it stands to reason that sooner or later they will get one right. The Working time directive is one they got right. You cannot be forced to work more than 48 hours a week, the opt out is for you not the company...it's so that you can work overtime if you choose, even if you have signed an opt out the company cannot force you to work more than 48 hours a week. |
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The Health and Safety Executive(HSE) enforce the WTD rules......as I said previously employers cannot force their employees to work more than 48 hours per week - but also that this is averaged out over 17 weeks...so if you worked more than 48 hours by choice for some of those weeks(as long as when averaged out over 17 weeks the total did not exceed 48 per working week) then you would not have been deemed to have contravened the regulations. I worked for the NHS when these regulations came in, and I was required to ensure that my staff did not contravene the regs...this was sometimes difficult because of the shift patterns - but sometimes it meant that staff had to have 'unscheduled time off' to avoid falling foul of the regulations. |
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Thanks for the previous 2 posts if that's the case I've learned something, funny they don't explain it that way to you when you sign.
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No they won't do...but if you check out the HSE site it is quite clear.
It used to give me nightmares checking the monthly duty rotas and making sure we were within the regs. I have neen left the NHS for 10 years now, but they were slavish in the adherence to the regs and I can't see it having changed. That is what gets me about the EU......the frech pick and choose which rules they will follow and which they won't...but the UK is slavish to the rules. As for what we get out...it is very little. I don't think the front at Blackpool is a great bargain for the billions we have paid in. Definitely not good value for money....especially when there isn't any money to spare. |
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As you're aware I live in the heartland of the EUSSR, they're quick enough to pass laws & regs, but in reality there's always a get out clause somewhere in amongst all the burocrateese. Prime example is the WTD of no more than 48 hrs per week, sounds fine until you read the rest of it, or upto 60hrs in the week so long as it averages out & here's the kicker, over 4 months/16 weeks.
That's how it applies to me as a wagon driver, but I believe it goes for other trades too. As it is I'm pushing between 50-60 working hours quite regularly without getting overtime or time in lieu, the reason given is always "That's the way it is in this branch, don't like it go somewhere else !" Nice ain't it. So to a point I can understand those who say no thanks but my times up I'm offski if they aren't compensated, but at the same time I know the frustration of being on the receiving end of such treatment & the sense of dismay this brings. I suppose a lot of it is down to the way firms/employers treat their workforce & the individuals personal & moral code . |
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So tell me, what exactly is the difference between being run by a bunch of super-rich Hooray Henries lining their own and their rich mates' pockets in Whitehall and being run by Herman the German super-rich liner of his and his rich mates' pockets?
The working-class still get screwed; but hey, that's alright, they're screwing you with a British accent! |
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Transports Friend - Working Time Directive |
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The Working Time Regulations
Maybe I have read the linked document wrongly then, but (and I hadn't read your link)I thought that the regs only applied to non mobile workers...but you are at the sharp end so I defer to your knowledge. I know that we had this legislation preached at us, times without number when it came in(and of course I was working) so I had to know it...being out of circulation for 10 years has meant I could kiss it goodbye.......but it awakened some powerful (not good) memories for me. |
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Sad but true. |
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I think the person who made that comment will be, by now, regretting that he ever mantioned it.
I'm sure he can see that the 95% do give a stuff. |
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