Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Just heard that someone has jumped off the Arndale today and commited suicide....how tragic feel for the family and friends left behind.

Why cant it be secured on the top floor with railings and also the other floors need making more closed in to stop people doing this.

May he/she rest in peace and sending thoughts and prayers to the family left behind x

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Why so publicly? How many people that saw this will now be traumatised? Why Why Why?

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

suppose you never know what is going on in the persons head I find it sad that they feel so low and probably feel they have no one to turn to it is tragic.
I do understand though what your saying about the people who have seen it and how it will affect them I would be sick to the stomach to have witnessed something like that and I hope no young kids saw it.
Such a sad waste of life x

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Entrance/Exit was closed off by the Police at 1100 when I drove past.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

The car park was all blocked off when I passed on the bus at 11-20am
As for putting railings up I don't see how that would stop them there are plenty of high places they could find the viaduct for one all these high places would need railings to stop someone determined to commit suicide.
If someone is determined to jump off somewhere they will find a place to do it

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

really sad and feel for their familes and friends: and anyone who saw it happen:
It does appear to be a magnet though.... I think its four people up to now:

very upsetting: RIP

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Railings aren't gonna deter anyone who is determined enough to end their life that way. RIP to the individual in question, I hope you are now at peace.:(

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Very sad news, RIP.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Railings on yon won't make the slightest difference IMHO. Worked wi guy fer 6 yrs in early 70s, Good bloke, good workmate, He went out one time n Jumped off railway viaduct into Milnshaw Lane, No hint of what he was gonna do, just went out n did it.:eek: in fact lindashanks brother will verify if she asks him.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Yes Cashy, I now who you mean. Terrible tragedy. How awful it must be to hit rock bottom and not be able to pick yourself up.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Seems like that's often the way ... those who talk about suicide don't usually go ahead and do it. I guess it's maybe because those who really intend to do it don't want someone trying to talk them out of it. I don't have any figures to back me up, but I would be willing to bet that there are more than a few folks ... including some on here ... that have at least considered suicide.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

i believe the deceased in question was an asian male lived on blackburn road near where the new clinic

no reason as to why he did jump though.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

literally

i dont particulary care if this sounds mean or harsh but if you must kill yourself dont make such a public display of it.I loose all sympathy when i hear of school children finding people hanging from trees,people chucking themselves under trains while people on the other side watch in horror or idiots who throw themselves off motorway bridges infront of arctic lorrys and killing the driver as well.

Just because their life has gone down the toilet these no need to take others with them

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

While I understand your point of view accyman, it isn't something that the person committing suicide will(generally) consider....unless they do not mean to do it.
By that I mean that some people will stage a suicide attempt to get noticed.
Someone who jumps from a tall building onto hard concrete doesn't fit this category......they just want to end it.....they do not give a fleeting thought to the consequences, because they know they aren't going to be there to be affected by them.

Somewhere in our town this morning, a family is in bits. Asking themselves why?
Also questioning whether they should have spotted it coming and been able to help.

If you, or your family, has ever been touched by a suicide you will know a little of the pain they are feeling today.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

According to Telegraph he was 20 years old.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

I completely agree. I know from experience, the trauma is horrific and never leaves you. Selfish Selfish Selfish. And I dont particularly care if it sounds harsh either.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

yeah 20 year old apparently worked for british gas.

funeral is being held today at 8pm.

the family's devestated. no news as to why he jumped though.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Do we really need to know? Let's leave them alone to mourn in peace.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Agreed, no callous speculation will mend what's happened.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Just walked past the arndale and the police have blocked the roads off,it looked like a women was stood on the edge talking to the police...I really hope she doesn't jump :(

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Unfortunately she did. From what I'm hearing very young, 17-18 ish :(

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Yes she looked young ish, such a shame, lord only knows what her problems were :(....

...I think it's time they did more than put a few Sally Army posters up on the roof of the Arndale as it does seem to attract these folk.

Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

It's more than a shame, it's a bloody tragedy!

What use would posters be to anyone in her frame of mind?

I feel extremely sorry for those that had to attend and witness this waste of a young life.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Yes, me too....and her devastated family.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Maybe posters wouldn't help.
Maybe what is needed is a sort of keep net.....something that would mean less of a drop.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

I hear she's still alive but in a serious way (no surprise), hope she makes it and gets all the help she needs :(

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

I hope she survives too.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Afraid not.

Woman dies after falling from Accrington multi-storey car park (From Lancashire Telegraph)

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

:( Sorry to hear that :(

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

According to the telegraph website, she didn't survive.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

That is so sad.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Heartbreaking. RIP

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

And they have detained another one this afternoon for threatening to jump !!!!!!

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

You're just as disgusting and as disrepectul as the low life scum that led to her wanting to kill herself, it doesn't affect your life so why do you feel the need to give negative comments towards her actions maybe you should be criticising those that lead people to wanting to end their lives, those who witnessed the tradgic incident can receive help but the young girl obviously didn't feel that any amount of help could get her through what she has experienced and not even her family or friends could help her through what others put her through, and for what some petty amusement knowing they are making someone else feel ashamed of who they are :@ keep your negativity to yourself and show some respect for the family of the girl who felt the need to take her own life.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Just go back and read what has been written......where is it disrespectful to say this is a sad event?
We do not KNOW why she did what she did.
We are all entitled to express an opinion.....as you have done. Because some of us do not hold the same opinion does not make yours more valid, and ours less valid.

I do not know if you knew the lass who jumped...but you sound very angry.
If your rant made you feel better......then OK......but no one has been disrespectful.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

See all the clowns aint in the circus.:rolleyes:

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

No Cashy, they aren't, but we knew that anyway.
I just hope that if Anonymous joined us to have a rant, that this has made them feel better.
If this person thinks that we gain any pleasure or enjoyment from hearing that a young person has ended their life in such circumstances, then they surely know very little about any of us on here....but have made judgements about us...which is just a tad ironic and a bit hypocritical, since they are telling us that we should not be doing that.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

At which point has anybody given negative comments towards her actions ? All I can see is sympathy. If somebody is responsible for her taking her life then hopefully they are brought to justice.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

after all these suicides and attempted suicides from the arndale you would think security woudl have been beefed up a little surely

i know you cant catch every possible jumper but the rate of which people are succeding or trying to do it is getting pretty high

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Like others, I'm saddened at the news and feel so sorry for the state of mind of the youngster and for those who are left behind to grieve.

Her friends will need a support system and in case it helps I'll tell you how my grandson and his friends supported each other when one of their friends departed this life. The group were between the ages of 17-18 and 21-ish having known each other through school and sport and the fact that some of their parents were friends of friends.

They were all shocked and when one or two girls started feeling suicidal the others became really anxious and it was decided that they'd stay together as a group to support each other. That first night my daughter had over a dozen shocked youngsters awake in her living room all night - apparently another group had sought refuge sitting on cushions on another parent's floor. They moved about in groups for nearly three weeks utilising each other's sitting rooms, reminiscing and helping each other over morose thoughts until they were sure everyone had become rational again. One thing I think is important is that due to their spirits being so low they didn't feed themselves, it was their mothers who prepared sustenance. Goodness knows what would have happened if they didn't have some mature support too.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Yes, Lucysgirl you are right about needing support.

Anonymous talks as if this girl had sought help...but many do not seek help or support.
Mental health teams are just that - Mental Health teams...they are not clairvoyant and can only give help and support if someone actually presents and ask for help.
It seems that frequently it is assumed that the support systems have failed in some way, when the failure is that of the person to seek help.

I feel for her immediate family and her friends...especially if this young person had kept her feelings to herself(which many of them do).

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Anon. Please sign up if you have something to say... Read more carefully before having a stab at the users here that you might see truly feel sad about another loss via the carpark.

Of all the crap I have been through. Drugs, pain-killer abuse,Alcoholism, anxiety and depression- I somehow made it through to the other side. At 36 I am still trying to piece it together.... It makes me immensely sad for this girl, that unfortunately did not see that life has so much to give and that, in turn, she had to so much to input to the world...

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

I find you far more disgusting than anyone that posted before you, No-one knows why she did it, it has to be considered as a loss for the whole community.

You however, call yourself Anonymous why? if you believe in what you say, be brave enough to call things in your own name.:(

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

@ Anonymous, I think you may be a little to close to the young Lass concerned & her family so you're emotionally reacting to the comments of the folk on here. As far as I can see the comments made have been expressive of sympathy & condolences for the sad loss to family & friends, furthermore there appears to be a sense of bewilderment at how a young life can so tragically be ended.

Not having access to the background or history of the events that led to such a desperate action people can only go on hearsay & the local press release to form an opinion. That opinion in the main, to my view, is one of compassion. So please, don't chastise those who are only offering a sense of sympathy & shared loss.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

I can't see any negative comments on here just pure sympathy, the anonymous person must be close to the family of the girl, such a shame though only young but age is nothing really, cuz if you aged 17 or 99 it's a shame to take your own life, RIP young girl

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

anon mightve read the whole thread and took offence to comments made years ago

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

That might be the case.
But whoever anonymous is should see that there was nothing at all disrespectful to the person he/she was defending.
They should also see, that as this is a public forum, there are bound to be views that do not coincide with their views...especially in the current emotionality of the situation.

If having a rant at us saved their sanity or made them feel better, then that isn't a bad thing.
If they were personally involved with this girl...as a friend or a family member then they have my sincere sympathy....I know where they are coming from.
It does not alter my views on suicide in general.....or my right to hold those views(personal circumstances are what formed those opinions).

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

Its sad enough that a 17 yr old takes their own life, but to know them on a personal level. I don't know how I would react, if so, I am willing to forgive anon for their substantial misjudgement of the members of this forum.

Re: Arndale car park..... Suicide
 

As I have said in previous posts, I know where Anon is coming from(I have been there)....everyone deals with their grief in different ways......anger is one of the phases of grieving...and the anger is directed at anyone.
We, on here, are just sitting ducks...but it would be good, if at some point, Anon could come back and apologise for their misjudgement of forum members.

I don't expect that this will happen anytime soon. I really think we will not encounter this person again on here.