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A fair bit is said about our youth not wanting jobs, avoiding work whenever possible, willing to put up with the dole rather than do anything.

I would like to take a chance to say well done, you prove that the above isn't true.

What the heck am I talking about?

Well the young lads and lasses that wander up and down outside ASDA and a few other places wearing billboards, perhaps you haven't noticed them?

They advertise a furniture warehouse, well done to them and well done to the company that employs them, they are probably on a minimum wage, but I admire the fact they are out there in public showing they are prepared to do what the majority of young folk would like to do, WORK.
:D

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i too commend them, only my suspicious nature, i am always curious as to the reason they wear a mask, i like to think its to avoid the embarrassment of doing such a job, and getting unwarranted stick off their peers, but good on em for earning a few quid doing what ever it takes, for this they have my upmost regard, however the more cynical side thinks, its so the social dont know they are working and signing on, i hope i am wrong on this count and its the former.

its horrible always seeing the negative in things :confused:

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As they obviously don't provide the costume, makes it a no-no to me.

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Yes it is, and in the second post as well in a thread praising our youth rather than slamming them, obviously you need to consider you're thoughts before applying them to the site.
:)

What a shame could have been a nice friendly thread.

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i do wish you would actually read my post rather than your usual knee jerk reaction, you may find that they are not always what they first appear.

as for my thought applied to the site, its an open forum, thats the idea, different peoples thoughts.

only you choose to just put people down for having an opinion, oh well same old

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I read yer post n thought the cynicism was unwarranted, n possibly done fer n ulterior motive.

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and what ulterior motive could i possibly have?

for pointing out one of my own failings!

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Yes, I put down your negative thoughts in a positive thread, do you do it deliberately because I started it, or without thinking because you are just a nasty person with nasty ideas?

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Would you like to have a go at me too - cos something similar had crossed my mind as ChurchFC posted.

Or perhaps let's put the big wooden spoons away, stop stirring and have a sensible discussion.

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probably just a nasty person with nasty ideas, or a realist

dont flatter yerself that much less, would have posted exactly the same whover made the comment

i DID commend these yung people for doing anything they can too earn a few quid, wish there was more like em, i have done it as i am sure lots of others on here have to

but dont pretend that this sort of thing doesnt happen, where scrupulous employers pay way below minimum wage and cash in hand, nasty person or not it happens

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Well as neither you susie nor church have responded to that thought/comment i'll stick wi what i think, thats sod all to do wi stirring its common sense.:rolleyes:

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didnt respond because i didnt follow, wasnt clear enough for me to comment on, as for it being obvious that the employer provides the costume, how so?

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I'm sorry Cashy, I didn't understand your comment otherwise I might have been able to respond.

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snap

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Where in my original post was I using wooden spoons? Why just because you find yourself as cynical as he am I wrong?

Surely both of you should just butt out and let folk with real feelings answer the thread?

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oh i get it now, only post on less thread if you agree 100%, 95% aint enough
the spoons was your response to my post i believe, instead of allowing a fellow member to have their say, you just shot em down for having an opinion that differs slightly

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Have you ever seen these kids? Or are you simply assuming that they wear cheap masks from the pound shop?

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i deffinatley have, is that relevant?
the fact that tghey are wearing a mask that is now way out of date as far as pop culture goes
was lee francis former personna he moved on from that around 5 years ago, long time in pop culture that

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So having a contrary opinion does not count as having real feelings? No one said you were wrong, subsequent posts have just added caveats and different thoughts to what you said, no one has shot your thoughts down in flames.

And yes, if you cut me in half you will find "cynical" written through like a stick of rock - I get it from my dad who was the most cynical person I know.

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Do you know, I get the feeling that you might just bare a grudge for something I don't give a damn about.

Now do I tell you to sod off, or just suggest you go away in short jerky movements?

Or would you consider it hurtful?

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Yeah it's relevant, may be why she is being so cynical....you however have zero excuse....

So the costumes are old...owner of the shop probably saw them going cheap at some auction or other and had an idea about putting them to good use and employing a couple of kids.

But hey if it floats your boat to think of a couple of hard working youngsters as con artists, its your perogative.

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that not what i originally said is it now, another who needs to actually read, i questioned the reason and offered 2 of my alternatives for the reason, no one picked up on the other reason, here is another the employer may actually think its more eye catching

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Oh I can read.....

'however the more cynical side thinks, its so the social dont know they are working and signing on'

Like I said..if it floats your boat etc...

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Do you know I've been in bother with folk on here for posting the opposite of what they want to think, but when I started this thread about young people out in all weathers I didn't think it would be anything but praise for them being in public view working hard at probably a job they had to have several GCSE's just to get an interview, just show's how nasty some of our members can be, I'd hoped for encouragement so that others might follow their example.

Yeah I know, more fool me.

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selective reading then!

dont worry less, im off to work again now, doing whatever it takes to pay the bills!

as for grudges, life is way too short fella, i bid you adieu, enjoy your evening, put your feet up, you never know someone else with a slightly different outlook on life may be along any minute, the you can condemn and dismiss their opinion too

cheerio fella,
ps dont have nightmares!

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However, the cynic in me wonders if you only work after the social is closed for the weekend :rolleyes:

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Yep you do go a long way off course just to hold a grudge, do you sit on your own at break time at work? Probably nothing to do with your deodorant, just that people don't like you.

;)

P.S. anytime you're ready Mr. Mod prune the thread down so sensible people can say, 'yes kids of today only need the chance to work'.

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Actually no, I haven't seen them as I live 40 miles away and come to Accrington once in a blue moon. My thoughts occurred to me as soon as I first read Less's post, and before I knew about the masks, costumes or whatever.

My cynical mind wondered if they might possibly, just possibly be being exploited - or possibly not. If the latter is the case, then good on them for having a job and I am in full agreement with Less - but surely someone has to point out the possible flaws in any scenario?

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You do realise that gem will probably be removed with the rest of the tat that has ruined this thread?

Meanwhile karma on it's way for it.
:D

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Nasty remarks = 'Fun thread' :confused:

I just don't see any humour in these so called 'fun threads' you inflict on us now and again.

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No it wasn't started as anything other than a thread praising a section of society that usually gets rubbished as having less work than a sick note, I could fill a server with how I might think they (youth) are being exploited it's one of my pet hates.

well done however for your sudden bit of back peddling, maybe I've also given you a dig in the past that has left a festering wound?

If so I won't apologise, just ask you to reply in the thread concerned NOT bring it onto the rest of the site.
;)

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No Less, the only festering wound is in my backside and that's nothing to do with you.

I hope I'm woman enough to take part in this forum without being cowed by anyone - take it on the chin and come back fighting!

I back pedalled as you put it because I don't really know what's going on here, it was just a thought that came into my head when I read your post.

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because of those masks worn by the billboard advertisers craig david is wanted on 3 counts of benefit fraud :D

seriously though as they are out all weathers i dare say the masks keep them not only annonymous but dry and warm too

must be flipping boring but at least their earning a few quid

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A happier note ... mmm:rolleyes: When I read the thread opener, I expected to see a few positive comments about how reassuring it is to see that some young people are getting out and doing a menial job in tough times (well, tough in most of Europe) rather than sitting on their asses waiting for society or something like that to support them. But this? I don't know ... I think it's a positive to find that some kids still have that old-fashioned Lancashire work ethic ... you know, "when the going gets tough; the tough get going" sort of thing. Ah well, back to cleaning guns. Anyone wanna buy a Winchester 94, chambered for 44 magnum? Excellent condition. Great for moose.;)

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That was obvious with your first post in this thread, but you do tend to attempt to know, even when you don't, perhaps that's the Scientific learning?

Although I believe the real scientists claim that the most profound statement they can make is:-
'I don't know', (inevitably they go on to give their opinion anyway).
:D

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Thank you both very much, when I posted the thread, these were the kinds of responses I expected, I can't understand how such an innocent thread could cause such aggro.
:(

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in all fairness as soon as i saw less and happy in the same topic i knew it was a recipe for disaster :D

the two just dont gel :p:D;)

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Good on 'em I say! I know a young person who does the same thing in Manchester and he puts up with the mindnumbing boredom, sudden downpours, abuse from passing winos and derelicts (God help anyone in downtown Accy :rolleyes: ) just so he can pay his way in the world.

Have total and utter cynicism for those in authority including politicians, both national and local, but always like to think the best of ordinary folk.

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I can understand that, perhaps I should have signed up with a second username, then the thread might have stood a chance.
:D

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Do yeh know what i was alluding too,in me early post? it seems to me a certain section have no idea?:rolleyes:

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I'll bet there's more than one of us on here has done "menial" work in order to keep a roof over our heads and food on the table (no Monty Python clips please;)) ... I earned most of my education waiting tables, tending bar, and driving a hack. Come to think of it, might just drive tomorrow so that my day driver can take his kids to the Santa Claus parade. Now, any offers on the Winchester ... it'll stop a decent sized bear, trust me:D:D

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Yep. ;)

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Well as i regard at least one of em wi a reasonable intellect, Then i stand me ground n refuse to accept the denial.;)

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Not to worry Mags, I don't remember this being a fun thread, if it was it would be on your ignore list.
:)

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I know where you live, was just checking you hadn't seen them on one of your forays.

I guessed you hadn't actually seen them, and that you had made a leap of faith which for a scientist is an anathema ;)

Of course they are being exploited, but the last thing they need is to be accused of ripping off the taxpayer.

The only flaws in the scenario come from misinformation i.e someone adding an unnecessary compound to the petri dish

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Leap of faith, eh ... whatever that is ... willingness to take a chance maybe:confused: Maybe you meant: "leaping to conclusions" ... who knows, or cares. I would argue that willingness to take is at the basis of science, and of human endeavour in many areas. "Leap of faith", "science", "anathema" ... mmmm ... interesting. Would never say that myself 'cause I eschew obfuscation. Oh, and bs too.

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Nope I meant 'Leap of faith'.....trust in someone/something else without awareness.

I'd argue the opposite.....that science is not about leaps of faith, it's about 'leaping to conclusions' and then seeking to prove those conclusions.

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I also applaud these youngsters for getting out there and doing whatever is on offer to earn a few quid. And by the way there was a young lass wearing one of these billboards on Hyndburn Road this afternoon, she wasn't wearing a mask:rolleyes:

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then this young lady has my upmost regard as i stated in my earlier post.
I simply raised the question of why the mask, she wasnt wearing one therefore avoids the question, and the latter part of my post isnt applicable, and only the first part is.

where Less do you get the idea that it was a grudge? that i was being personal? what in my statement made you think i was having a go at you?
in this post it is because i am addressing you directly, in my first post there was nothing to suggest anything of the sort.
when you talk about grudges and bias towards someones post, maybe you need to start looking a little closer to home?

you then resorted to type and name calling, rather than offer any valid argument, as to why my more cynical side would dream up such a far fetched idea, just got all upset that i had to offer an opinion that wasnt popular.

wearing a masks main objective is to conceal ones identity, questioning why someone would want to isn't getting at you is it? offering possible alternatives to ones own question is simply sharing your thoughts and offering it up for debate

you need to get over this thinking that you have that i only post to annoy you, the fact that my posts annoy you isnt my problem but your own.

and if i held grudges, why would i send you karma last week?