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Grange 05-12-2012 11:28

Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Just returned from Christmas shopping...went to park as usual at the Blackburn Railway Car Park which had one line of cars parked...was met by a very irrate man in his car... window wound down and he told me that he had just received a £55 penalty notice for unofficial car parking whilst he went to the town centre...he was actually approaching his car to see the official (thats not what he called him!) sticking the penalty notice on his windscreen...I got out of there pronto and parked at Asda...be warned this official (on a bonus per car penalised I think) will be about all the time leading up to Christmas...dont get caught out like I nearly did...

accyman 05-12-2012 11:37

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
i suppose if you park where your supposed to and not where your not supposed to you wont get a ticket ?

if you are allowed to park where he did then he should object to it and get it cancelled

mind you if hes that bloody keen he should get his backside down blackburn road he will be able to retire after a week lol

Grange 05-12-2012 11:43

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
I think that the charge has recently been introduced catching out quite a few people who have parked there before free of charge and did not notice the new warning signs

katex 05-12-2012 11:46

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Can't understand why drivers don't use the ones in the centre. The Mall car park is very good now, especially the new bit with much wider spaces. Charges are not over the top, and probably a minute outlay of what you would spend in the shops:

Tariffs

Monday - Saturday
  • Up to 1 hours £1.00
  • Up to 2 hours £1.50
  • Up to 4 hours £2.50
  • Up to 6 hours £5.00
  • Over 6 hours £8.00
Sundays and Bank Holidays will be charged at £1.00 up to 12 hours parking.

gynn 05-12-2012 11:53

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Why would you park at Blackburn Railway Station if you were going Christmas shopping in Blackburn?

Isn't it for rail users?

:confused:

Grange 05-12-2012 12:09

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Because its there and usually empty which is why a lot of people have parked there in the past...my reason for coming on here was to try to avoid other people getting caught out and penalised £55 especially at this time of the year

Neil 05-12-2012 15:36

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grange (Post 1030718)
..I got out of there pronto and parked at Asda...be warned this official (on a bonus per car penalised I think) will be about all the time leading up to Christmas...dont get caught out like I nearly did...

Is the Asda car park not for people shopping at Asda?
Where were you shopping if you parked there?

flashy 05-12-2012 15:48

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1030726)
Why would you park at Blackburn Railway Station if you were going Christmas shopping in Blackburn?

Isn't it for rail users?

:confused:


yes it IS for rail users, people park there just to avoid paying parking, there are signs up everywhere stating this so whoever parks there without using the railway deserves to be fined imho

gynn 05-12-2012 17:38

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by flashy (Post 1030775)
whoever parks there without using the railway deserves to be fined imho

..and whoever parks in Asda without using Asda also deserves a ticket.

My sympathy is with the traffic warden who probably got a mouthful of abuse from the man Grange saw, when in fact he was only doing his job.

DaveinGermany 05-12-2012 17:57

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1030794)
My sympathy is with the traffic warden who probably got a mouthful of abuse from the man Grange saw, when in fact he was only doing his job.

Come on Gynn, you know as well as I do there's doing your job & doing a job, some of them bring it on themselves the abuse they get, while others are halfway decent & give you a friendly word of advice as opposed to slapping on a ticket at the slightest hint of infringement.

accyman 05-12-2012 18:30

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
im sure once you explain or claim you are from blackburn road and that you are not aquainted with UK traffic regulations the matter will be cleared up with a mere caution :);)

i can see why people get upset when tickets are issued for minor infingments in one area and blatantly ignored in others without penalty

Tealeaf 05-12-2012 19:25

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Grange (Post 1030722)
I think that the charge has recently been introduced catching out quite a few people who have parked there before free of charge and did not notice the new warning signs

In that case, he should have gone to Specsavers. Far cheaper.

accyman 05-12-2012 21:38

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
last year or early this year HBC changed a rule with very little advertisement.Where a pavement dips for wheelcair access but not on the other side of the road making the whole process pointless cars were allowed to park accross of on the opposite side if there wasnt a facing lowered pavement.HBC changed tehir opinion on this and started handing out tickets to those who had previously legaly parked there.No new sign or anything but when asked the response from the traffic warden was " i think they put it on their website somewhere in the traffic bit or somthing"

my pal paid up before it got to the full amount but personally i woulda argued it as i dont feel some obscure mention in an obscure website of an obscure council is sufficient notification.Hell HBC cant even run a forum propperly despite throwing vast amounts of money at it

they could however mention important regulation changers on here for example but unless theres a build up to an election folk from HBC dont see much use for here .Some partys more than others i might add

COUGH labour COUGH

Tealeaf 05-12-2012 21:48

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Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1030835)
last year or early this year HBC changed a rule with very little advertisement.Where a pavement dips for wheelcair access but not on the other side of the road making the whole process pointless cars were allowed to park accross of on the opposite side if there wasnt a facing lowered pavement.HBC changed tehir opinion on this and started handing out tickets to those who had previously legaly parked there.No new sign or anything but when asked the response from the traffic warden was " i think they put it on their website somewhere in the traffic bit or somthing"

my pal paid up before it got to the full amount but personally i woulda argued it as i dont feel some obscure mention in an obscure website of an obscure council is sufficient notification.Hell HBC cant even run a forum propperly despite throwing vast amounts of money at it

they could however mention important regulation changers on here for example but unless theres a build up to an election folk from HBC dont see much use for here .Some partys more than others i might add

COUGH labour COUGH

Can someone please translate into English?

accyman 05-12-2012 22:42

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tealeaf (Post 1030837)
Can someone please translate into English?

go to spec savers :p

basically HBC changed a rule but did very little to inform the public so people got parking tickets as they were unaware of the change.

gynn 05-12-2012 23:05

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
It seems that in late 2011 or early 2012, Hyndburn Council implemented a new rule without giving it due notice by advertisement in the press. The arrangements for cars parking on residential streets, where kerbstones had been lowered to enable wheelchair access, were changed, and cars previously parked perfectly legally were now judged to be parked illegally, in the opinion of the Council.

It appears that the Council failed to inform residents of the change by erecting signs or notices, and when questioned about this, traffic wardens referred enquirers to the Council's website (probably the traffic section, but they were not 100% sure).

One irate driver penalised by a said warden decided not to challenge the penalty, but there was a strong argument in favour of challenging it since it seemed to have had only scant reference on the HBC website, which many people consider to be outside the scope of mainstream viewing. And it is alleged that HBC has a track record of failing to innovate in the area of IT, despite receiving substantial external funding.

The 'Accrington Web' forum would provide an ideal opportunity for such changes in regulations to be advertised, but it seems that HBC councillors and staff don't see the benefits. Some more than others, and without mentioning any names, a heavy smoker might utter the word Labour.

I think that's about the jist of it. :confused:

accyman 06-12-2012 00:54

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
i have no idea if it was in the press or not or if indeed the traffic warden was telling the truth but out of curiosity is putting it in the local press considered enough.Even the two main local papers would only reach a small fraction of the areas population.

im not saying there should be big illuminated billboards notifying people but a bit of wriggle room and understanding from the authorities/wardens over genuine mistakes wouldnt hurt.Theres a big difference between someone parking where it has usually been acceptable to do so and sticking your car on zigzag lines with the hazzards on while you nip to the cash machine

Neil 06-12-2012 06:57

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1030850)
The 'Accrington Web' forum would provide an ideal opportunity for such changes in regulations to be advertised, but it seems that HBC councillors and staff don't see the benefits. Some more than others, and without mentioning any names, a heavy smoker might utter the word Labour.

Quote:

Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1030860)
i have no idea if it was in the press or not or if indeed the traffic warden was telling the truth but out of curiosity is putting it in the local press considered enough.Even the two main local papers would only reach a small fraction of the areas population.

I think using the local press is a legally accepted way of making official announcements even if the majority of the residents don't read it.

This forum has a lower readership than the local papers and in my opinion is not an appropriate way for the council to make official announcements.
The Observer have a circulation of just under 10k and the Telegraph just over 20k

cashman 06-12-2012 09:28

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1030870)
I think using the local press is a legally accepted way of making official announcements even if the majority of the residents don't read it.

This forum has a lower readership than the local papers and in my opinion is not an appropriate way for the council to make official announcements.
The Observer have a circulation of just under 10k and the Telegraph just over 20k

Whilst i agree the papers have a much higher circulation, I see nowt wrong wi the council putting it on here, Its n extra notification, also it "COSTS" em nowt. But then probably too thick,to figure that out.:rolleyes:

accyman 06-12-2012 09:40

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1030888)
Whilst i agree the papers have a much higher circulation, I see nowt wrong wi the council putting it on here, Its n extra notification, also it "COSTS" em nowt. But then probably too thick,to figure that out.:rolleyes:

thats along the lines of what i was getting at as in it would be an additional option

after all this is a local forum where local issues are discussed and it wouldnt be the first time an account was set up for someone at the council to let us know whats going on.It would be a nice change for it to be done in order to notify the locals of changes that may effect them rather than backstabbing and bitching the opposition

Neil 06-12-2012 11:24

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Lets just say that due to past events I don't think Accrington Web is on Hyndburn Borough Councils Christmas card list.
There is nothing stopping one of the many Councillors on here posting a link to HBC's website with important info on.

Less 06-12-2012 11:51

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1030899)
Lets just say that due to past events I don't think Accrington Web is on Hyndburn Borough Councils Christmas card list.
There is nothing stopping one of the many Councillors on here posting a link to HBC's website with important info on.

You're not wrong there, but then, Roy used to have a link to their site, this was removed many years ago after some Civil Servant demanded information he wasn't entitled to, then sent a policeman around to Micks' (Roy as usual was abroad), in an attempt to put the frighteners on, the policeman didn't get the info either, even bossy boots have to fill in the correct forms for the data protection act, they can't just apply pressure.
However members often put handy links on site saving us having to wade through pages of Hyndburns smoke screen.
:)

Neil 06-12-2012 11:54

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1030904)
However members often put handy links on site saving us having to wade through pages of Hyndburns smoke screen.
:)

I have had the pleasure of wading through HBC's website this morning so handy links are very useful

cashman 06-12-2012 13:18

Re: Car Parking in Blackburn
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1030899)
Lets just say that due to past events I don't think Accrington Web is on Hyndburn Borough Councils Christmas card list.
There is nothing stopping one of the many Councillors on here posting a link to HBC's website with important info on.

Or it could be the fact 95% of us don't give a toss? yeh never know.:rolleyes:


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