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cashman 16-01-2020 18:52

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the silly old get david attenballs was on the news tonight babbling about it,in australia, never mentioned the fires were stated by people not the weather, 2 prosecuted last week, he is nothing but a liar.:( he also said the young are taking notice, well they would be wouldnt they? i believed any owd crap when i was young.

Exile on Spencer St 16-01-2020 19:30

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Thinking of making a FOI request to the BBC asking them how many air journeys Attenborough, and his entourages, have made in, say, the last ten years, paid for by the BBC.
The so-called news tonight was nothing but Warmist Propaganda. Not a single voice suggesting these fires in Oz might just be worse because, over the last few years, the Green Loons in Local governments have made clearing fire breaks and fallen brushwood a criminal offence.
Expect to hear Attenborough announcing soon that he’ll never fly again to some warm paradise.

RainbowSix 16-01-2020 19:36

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I wonder what steps the Australian government actually took before all these fires started - to prevent them?
Knowing the weather was extremely hot and the place would be a tinder box, did they actually do any preventative work such as clear areas of all burnable material to prevent spread?
Heck are they even doing that now?

cashman 16-01-2020 19:37

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1235786)
Thinking of making a FOI request to the BBC asking them how many air journeys Attenborough, and his entourages, have made in, say, the last ten years, paid for by the BBC.
The so-called news tonight was nothing but Warmist Propaganda. Not a single voice suggesting these fires in Oz might just be worse because, over the last few years, the Green Loons in Local governments have made clearing fire breaks and fallen brushwood a criminal offence.
Expect to hear Attenborough announcing soon that he’ll never fly again to some warm paradise.

He obviously knows those fires were started by people, but deliberately never mentioned the fact,

Margaret Pilkington 16-01-2020 19:52

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The children in schools are not being taught to think....they are being taught WHAT to think.
They are having their brains rinsed with all the propaganda about climate change.
This does not stop them wanting their parents to run them about in their cars, or making them stop using (and wanting) the latest tech and mobile phones(all made in the country that produces the most carbon emissions...China).

Jimmy Clitheroe 16-01-2020 20:03

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The only way the policies of de-industrialisation will work is by reducing the global population to a pre-industrial level (which was about three quarters of a billion). So in order to save civilisation they will need to lose over six sevenths of the world's population in order to achieve a "sustainable" planet. Seems like the disease is preferable to the cure.

DaveinGermany 18-01-2020 10:06

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1235791)
This does not stop them wanting their parents to run them about in their cars,


This I personally can confirm, leaving here at 7.30 in the morning to get to work, the traffic is a nightmare as Mumsy & dadsy take their darling prodginy to be educated, I get to work about 7.57.


Same journey in reverse evenings leave at 18.10, home by 18.30, 7minutes not a lot but that's 7 minutes of burning extra "Devils Elixir" (Diesel)5days a week = 35mins killing polar Bears & melting Ice caps multiply by 4ish= 2hrs20 a month multiply by 12!!!! :eek:


I'm gassing pedestrians, killing the Poliebears & destroying the Arctic for over a day every year according to the bed wetting, self loathing, lefterist, wankeratti, extinctionists!!


Me alone through the week, god help us if they calculated my week-end sins into that equation. :D

Jimmy Clitheroe 25-01-2020 10:15

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTXdhTwO320

Odd how those who want to preach to the rest of us are so secretive and lack transparency. Anyone in the public eye should be prepared to be subject to scrutiny and criticism.

cashman 25-01-2020 10:53

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they are nothing but a load of cretins, creeps, who have influenced a child who is sick.

Jimmy Clitheroe 25-01-2020 22:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1236243)
they are nothing but a load of cretins, creeps, who have influenced a child who is sick.

To quote an old cliché - I blame the parents. From the report there is an inference that the parents knew the Google Page Ranking man who has rocketed their daughter to "stardom" before his alleged spotting of her. The whole thing whiffs of something not right but any criticism is met with allegations of pestering a poor (the family are quite wealthy btw), defenceless (she seemed to have greater security than your average premier), unwell (this 'mutism' thing seems a bit like tourettes - some made up "medical" excuse for angry, nasty people to be angry and nasty), little girl (try calling your average teenage daughter a little girl and see the response you get) - something more sinister is hiding behind this façade only they won't own up to who and why.

Margaret Pilkington 26-01-2020 09:11

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Prince Charles was lauding this girl, yet he has flown countless air miles over the last few days.
His carbon footprint must be huge....but it is OK....the current fears about the spread of the
Coronavirus will soon stop folk jetting about needlessly....it is going to see off a few million all over the world, so it will prune the overpopulation a bit.
I wonder if this will put a smile on the faces of the woke climate change protagonists.

Just an aside.
This Coronavirus is supposed to have come from space....and has landed on earth because of reduced sunspot activity which weakens the earths barrier of magnetic force, keeping away these harmful viruses.

Or maybe it landed because of climate change....or maybe we affected the sunspots with our carbon emissions
I will let you all pick the bones out of that soup.

Exile on Spencer St 26-01-2020 12:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Clitheroe (Post 1236239)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTXdhTwO320

Odd how those who want to preach to the rest of us are so secretive and lack transparency. Anyone in the public eye should be prepared to be subject to scrutiny and criticism.

Great find, Jimmy. I came across it too t’other day.
What’s most worrying is that not a single agent of the MSM (main stream media) even appear interested in looking into the story behind Greta inc.
None of the established news outlets, CNN, CBS, ABC, FOX, BBC, SKY - pick your TLA, none of them do anything more than push press and Google Page Ranking releases from Greta inc, unchallenged.
George Orwell really got it spot on about the manipulation of the mass media, it’s just the year he got slightly wrong.

Margaret Pilkington 26-01-2020 12:37

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While I had not seen this video before(and isn't it an eye opener when it comes to how the reporter is treated - that alone should ring great bonging alarm bells) I have read stuff about how this child is being manipulated by corporate business with Green energy agenda's.
Her parents are culpable in this.
As for the school strikes....I bet the vacuous children that join them all over the world do not know that she attends a school where attendance is NOT obligatory....that pupils are allowed to miss school if they have a mental health episode.
So her school strike is bogus....but this is not reported at all....so she is also complicit in manipulating the youth all over the world.
She is also responsible for the burgeoning mental health issues affecting young people who believe everything they are being fed.
This information is being reinforced by celebs and governments who feel unable to challenge what this child is saying.....they do not wish to be seen as bullying a mentally compromised girl.
This is the greatest 'emperors clothes' manipulation ever.....and it is commercially based.

Exile on Spencer St 26-01-2020 14:08

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It’s beyond pathetic. Or is it insidious?
Of all the hundreds of thousands of words on Wikipedia, etc about St.Greta, there is no information about the actual school she allegedly attended, and from which she allegedly went on strike.
I googled ‘which school did Greta Thurnberg attend’ and found nothing, except articles like these two, which seem to accept it’s a wonderful idea for children to skip school, from allegedly reliable media outlets.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/ar...pulsory-school

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/scie...hool-1.4060190

cashman 26-01-2020 14:46

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well the Irish Times is nothing but a joke. certainly dont view em as reliable. the irish independant was a far better news outlet.

Margaret Pilkington 26-01-2020 15:09

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A comment in the Irish times says that she has science on her side.
This is not exactly true.
Scientists have been wrong so many times in the past and it was shown that the studies done in Cambridge a few years ago were hugely flawed because the inputting of information had been skewed.
They formulate algorithms to create computer models and these then spew out results.....but rubbish in means rubbish out.
But we are not encouraged to have this view, let alone express it.
Being labelled a climate change denier is almost as bad as being labelled transphobic or racist.....not permitted in this PC world.

And yes...it is insidiously manipulative.

Jimmy Clitheroe 26-01-2020 18:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236309)
.....not permitted in this PC world.

And yes...it is insidiously manipulative.

..and could possibly get one into bother with electrical goods retailers too !!!

Exile on Spencer St 29-01-2020 19:45

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Four legs good, two legs bad?

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/01/29/green-racism/

Less 29-01-2020 20:27

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Ye gods this is all getting just a little bit silly!
I forsee some white middle class spoilt brat demanding in the media that all black people should be punished if they swat a mosquito, from now on they must allow it and the diseases it carries to thrive in their natural environment.
The worse thing about such a suggestion is of course that all the other white middle class spoilt brats will jump on the bandwagon and demand it becomes international law.

Margaret Pilkington 29-01-2020 20:44

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Less, all of it pathetic virtue signalling.....proclaiming themselves to be better than the hoi polloi.

Like Prince Charles(he was 'woke' long before the phrase was coined... though I prefer the term 'nutty') who had flown gooodness knows how many miles in a private jet to meet up with and laud St Greta the Manipulated, over her speeches and making the world take notice of her business motivated agenda(well not here exactly, but the CEO of Google Page ranking who is making a lot of money out of her).

It used to be the mention of the EU or that Bercow creature that put my hackles up...but now it is her with her sanctimonious twaddle.

I need to find a cave somewhere lonely.

Exile on Spencer St 29-01-2020 20:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1236489)
Ye gods this is all getting just a little bit silly!
I forsee some white middle class spoilt brat demanding in the media that all black people should be punished if they swat a mosquito, from now on they must allow it and the diseases it carries to thrive in their natural environment....

Less, it’s already happened.
In 1972 the pesticide DDT, the most effective pesticide against malaria, was banned by the then recently formed Environmental Protection Agency in the USA after Rachel Carson’s book, ‘Silent Spring’, claimed it would result in a cancer epidemic that would affect ‘practically 100 per cent’ of the human population.
This ban was made despite the EPA’s seven month hearing concluding that ‘DDT is not a carcinogenic hazard to man...’.
Rachel Carson is a goddess to the Eco-Fundamentalists and was recently lauded as such on BBC Radio 4.
However, there are some who suggest that her book, by inspiring this ban, has indirectly been responsible for millions of deaths from malaria.
But, maybe because of where these deaths occur, the white middle-class eco-warriors are OK with it.

Less 29-01-2020 20:58

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You'll find all the caves occupied by other accywebbers trying to do the same thing so you won't be lonely.

Margaret Pilkington 29-01-2020 21:01

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Well Exile...maybe she is trying to exercise some sort of population control....since people are (allegedly) one of the biggest causes of climate change.

Since this outbreak of Coronavirus in china I am sure there will be fewer flights taken...fewer journeys made...more deaths Mother Nature is doing her bit to assist St Greta in her efforts.

and I know that this may seem to be in very bad taste...or at best not politically correct, but I am not a newsreader on ITN

Margaret Pilkington 29-01-2020 21:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1236492)
You'll find all the caves occupied by other accywebbers trying to do the same thing so you won't be lonely.


As long as they are like minded and do not live on vegan food...I can live with that.
(vegan food is notorious for causing 'botty shouting)

DaveinGermany 01-02-2020 18:12

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236309)
Being labelled a climate change denier is almost as bad as being labelled transphobic or racist.....


Really Ma? I see it more of a confirmation that I'm on the right track. :D

Margaret Pilkington 01-02-2020 19:26

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Yes Son, we are both on the right track...the emperoro has no clothes on and a pretty sight it aint!

DaveinGermany 01-02-2020 19:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1236306)
Of all the hundreds of thousands of words on Wikipedia, etc about St.Greta, there is no information about the actual school she allegedly attended, and from which she allegedly went on strike.


Kringlaskolan (bless you!) Södertälje Stockholm, mate. But your translator will be spitting feathers for very little information. :D

Less 06-02-2020 15:27

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So what do we do with the waste from Pringles?
How can we save the world when there is a delicious product we can’t resist packed with :-
A plastic lid, a foil seal, a cardboard tube & a metal base. Recycle what? Come on be honest if we care about the environment (which I don’t very much) then manufacturers should put things in easily separated components that can be sorted.


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Margaret Pilkington 06-02-2020 15:44

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Less, the manufacturers do not care either.
Once the product reaches you it ceases to be their problem.
And for those who say that manufacturers DO care....this is just corporate virtue signalling...they don't care REALLY....well, as long as consumers continue to buy the product.

Exile on Spencer St 07-02-2020 07:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1236765)
So what do we do with the waste from Pringles?

I’ve always thought Pringles were recycled waste.
Compared with a decent potato crisp, they feel to me like something that’s already been eaten by someone else.
I guess if you have no teeth, eating a ‘crisp’ that melts in the mouth is ok.

monkey hanger 07-02-2020 09:53

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1236493]Well Exile...maybe she is trying to exercise some sort of population control....since people are (allegedly) one of the biggest causes of climate change.

funny how all other animals do not breed once there is any danger to their homes and food supply. if they do not like rabbits then disease hits em.

DaveinGermany 08-02-2020 09:57

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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1236772)
funny how all other animals do not breed once there is any danger to their homes and food supply. if they do not like rabbits then disease hits em.


Might have something to do with not being able to go down the Soesch, for a hand out. ;)

monkey hanger 09-02-2020 10:24

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1236790)
Might have something to do with not being able to go down the Soesch, for a hand out. ;)

please do not get me going dave. its sunday and a day of rest. wonder whats done on a wet and windy weekend nowadays.

Jimmy Clitheroe 10-02-2020 15:04

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I was wondering how Extinction Rebellion Vegans can reconcile their beliefs. If we stop eating beef then there will be more and more moo-ing things creating more greenhouse gases (cows already account for 16% of them apparently) so those of us who eat beef are actively helping reduce CO2 emissions.

Margaret Pilkington 10-02-2020 15:31

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I think they know that if we all went vegan(no beef, no milk, no cheese, no animal meat at all) then farmers would not raise these animals....but what a dreary life it would be.

Anyway, Mother Nature is doing her best to pare down the population with coronavirus.

A reduction in population would reduce greenhouse gases.

cashman 10-02-2020 15:57

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I would be very happy if Mother Nature would pare down the Extintion Rebellion clowns.

Exile on Spencer St 10-02-2020 16:36

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236853)
A reduction in population would reduce greenhouse gases.

But I bet it wouldn’t reduce greenpeace gas much.

Jimmy Clitheroe 10-02-2020 20:31

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236853)
I think they know that if we all went vegan(no beef, no milk, no cheese, no animal meat at all) then farmers would not raise these animals....but what a dreary life it would be.
.

In the interim you'd have millions upon millions of cattle that are no longer of use that would be counter acting all that 'hard work' those activists have done in putting up our energy bills and forcing us into dodgem cars with every emission of wind.

Less 11-02-2020 07:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jimmy Clitheroe (Post 1236866)
In the interim you'd have millions upon millions of cattle that are no longer of use that would be counter acting all that 'hard work' those activists have done in putting up our energy bills and forcing us into dodgem cars with every emission of wind.

If we all stopped eating meat the farmers would have a massive cull and turn everything into fertiliser so that they could grow more cabbages and other fart food.
This would be a very expensive turn of events leading to starvation and death for a large number of people.
Under these circumstances I for one wouldn't turn my nose up to a Sunday lunch of roast leg of vegan though I do wonder if it will go down well with Yorkshire puds?

monkey hanger 11-02-2020 09:06

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vegans, extinction rebellion, greenpeace etc etc just why do they get so much hot air time.

Margaret Pilkington 11-02-2020 09:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1236871)
If we all stopped eating meat the farmers would have a massive cull and turn everything into fertiliser so that they could grow more cabbages and other fart food.
This would be a very expensive turn of events leading to starvation and death for a large number of people.
Under these circumstances I for one wouldn't turn my nose up to a Sunday lunch of roast leg of vegan though I do wonder if it will go down well with Yorkshire puds?

Less, of course a roast leg of vegan is going to go with Yorkshire pudding.
Yorkshire pudding goes with all roasts.
Roast Vegan....mm, that is what the cannibals call 'long pig' so maybe a bit of sage and onion stuffing and apple sauce would be good too.

The pre-occupation with vegan food leaves me cold.
And vegans look so thin and miserable....well, that should be no surprise....how can you be joyful eating lentils and tofu?

Margaret Pilkington 11-02-2020 09:50

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Another question is....why do vegans want to eat fake sausage rolls and steak bake(or as I prefer to call the 'fake' bakes)
If they are vegans, then they will have no experience to compare one of these travesties to the taste of real steak in puff pastry....nor any experience of what a good(preferably home made) sausage roll really tastes like either.
Don't appropriate the names to the vegan alternatives....call then what they are....a lentil and chemically flavoured pastry...or a pea protein and chemically flavoured slice.

Less 11-02-2020 10:01

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I know I've mentioned it before but I enjoy a good vegetable soup or a vegetable pie but if the package is labelled vegetarian instead of vegetable I won't buy it just another of my little prejudices against these strange creatures.

monkey hanger 11-02-2020 10:09

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236884)
And vegans look so thin and miserable....well, that should be no surprise....how can you be joyful eating lentils and tofu?

honestly i have only met one of these people. when she became a vegan i didn,t see much of her as she was off sick more than at work. each to their own but do not keep pushing your lifestyle in the media on me as i have more interest in watching a silent film with my eyes covered than the vegan way of life.

Margaret Pilkington 11-02-2020 10:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1236891)
I know I've mentioned it before but I enjoy a good vegetable soup or a vegetable pie but if the package is labelled vegetarian instead of vegetable I won't buy it just another of my little prejudices against these strange creatures.

I regularly make a vegetable soup....firstly to use up vegetables that are not at their best....and some folk would throw them in the bin, secondly it makes a lovely warming lunch with a sandwich, but I use a chicken stock base....or sometimes a beef stock base.....so would be unsuitable for vegetarians.....and vegans would not like it either(not on a taste basis, but on an ideological basis).

I think these folk should live through tough times, where they have not the money to be so fussy....it would be either eat it or starve.
Have you noticed how this vegetarian food and vegan food is at premium prices.

When I was growing up, my Ma would make huge pans of 'cardboard' soup.....it was lentil and bacon and it was not pleasant.....had it had no bacon in it it would have been worse.

Exile on Spencer St 11-02-2020 13:55

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I wonder if this new propaganda output is going to be paid for by the cash raised by reintroducing the TV licence fee for older pensioners?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/newsround/51456549

Margaret Pilkington 11-02-2020 15:58

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More brain rinsing for the children.
It is institutionalised virtue signalling of the highest order.

Exile on Spencer St 11-02-2020 17:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1236902)
More brain rinsing for the children.
It is institutionalised virtue signalling of the highest order.

It’s political grooming.

Margaret Pilkington 11-02-2020 19:10

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I have tights older than this girl....and they probably have more sense than her too.

All that siad, it really is NOT her fault.
She is the unwitting pawn of those who would profit from 'green supporting industries'.
You know...those firms that will be quids in when we are forced to give up our gas central heating in favour of electric...when we ditch petrol driven cars for the electric versions....
No one has yet come uo with sensible ideas as to how all this Electric power will be sustainably(greenly) generated.....Wind power is not going to cut it.

Boris would be better giving up on building a bridge to Ireland and concentrating all his efforts on generating electricity from tidal power....now that might make some sense.

monkey hanger 12-02-2020 09:09

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1236919]
No one has yet come uo with sensible ideas as to how all this Electric power will be sustainably(greenly) generated.....Wind power is not going to cut it.

terrorists will love the idea of the whole country being reliant on onle one form of power. a few well placed bombs across the country and we,ll be in trouble.

taddy 12-02-2020 09:33

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Mankind has been trying to invent "Perpetual Motion", since he carved a polo mint out of stone and named it the wheel. Impossible then and still impossible now but pipe dreams have existed in peoples minds since the dawn of time.
Yours, Taddy, the Lancashire Ludite

Less 12-02-2020 17:34

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Just had a chicken Kiev, it was very tasty however because of this thread I did a bit of googling it seems that the chickens in it go for slaughter at around six weeks, try as I might I couldn't find the age for Kiev in my tea, maybe there's a scandal out there waiting to be dicovered?

Exile on Spencer St 16-02-2020 17:56

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Interesting take on St.Greta....

https://apple.news/AlTa3gmEiOza_HMUDF8aUVg

RainbowSix 18-02-2020 07:07

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Nothing is interesting about that spoilt little brat!

Exile on Spencer St 19-02-2020 17:14

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Yes, just why is there no flooding on the Somerset Levels this time around despite Storms Andy and Pandy?

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/202...limate-change/

Get the b****y rivers dredged where necessary.

RainbowSix 19-02-2020 20:15

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So down in shrewsbury where it flooded before and has flooded again - despite having ample warning that there are going to be more floods coming, people left stuff low down - important stuff - stuff that cannot be replaced - and it got flooded and ruined.

Why did they, knowing that it was likely to flood - not even make an attempt at moving stuff higher up?

monkey hanger 20-02-2020 09:16

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and they will still build more houses where flooding has took place at some time or another.

Jimmy Clitheroe 21-02-2020 12:22

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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1237295)
and they will still build more houses where flooding has took place at some time or another.

Maybe they can house the Aquaphibians from Stingray there

https://www.bing.com/images/search?v...x=0&ajaxhist=0

cashman 21-02-2020 12:57

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was on tv the other night, since 2013, 1 in 5 houses have been built on flood plains, thats 20%,so why the hell are they allowed to build em so.? my best guess is backhanders, cos there is NO sensible reason.

Exile on Spencer St 21-02-2020 13:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1237364)
was on tv the other night, since 2013, 1 in 5 houses have been built on flood plains, thats 20%,so why the hell are they allowed to build em so.? my best guess is backhanders, cos there is NO sensible reason.

That may be more down to sloppy research behind some TV so-called documentaries and/or the TV talking heads deliberately misunderstanding the difference between a flood plain and a flood zone.

According to the Environment Agency’s flood mapping, EVERYWHERE is in Flood Zone, which range from Zone 1 (low probability; 1 in 1000) to Zone 3 (high probability; 1:100 chance of flooding in any one year).
So, every house that’s ever been built is in one Flood Zone or another.

It’s virtually impossible to get approval to build houses in Zone 3 and Zone 3b is classed as ‘functional flood plain’.

Where, under exceptional circumstances, new housing is allowed in Zone 2 in my experience there are too many agencies and people involved in decision making to simply get away with bunging some local councillor a brown envelope.

Having said that, the EA’s Flood zone mapping is notoriously unreliable. Basically it works on past flood events and, where there haven’t been any, uses contours and river levels to guesstimate the extent of a 1 in 100 year downpour. Which is why, following extensive flood risk assessments, some housing developments do end up being approved in Zone 2.

The Somerset Levels have been functional flood plains for millennia and were flooded a few years ago, causing great distress to both residents and David Cameron’s government. Afterwards, for once, the latter listened to local knowledge, not theoretical EU eco-dogma, and allowed rivers to be dredged, as they had always been in the past. And, so far in this year of very exceptional rain fall, that area has not seen similar flooding.

cashman 21-02-2020 16:00

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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1237370)
That may be more down to sloppy research behind some TV so-called documentaries and/or the TV talking heads deliberately misunderstanding the difference between a flood plain and a flood zone.

According to the Environment Agency’s flood mapping, EVERYWHERE is in Flood Zone, which range from Zone 1 (low probability; 1 in 1000) to Zone 3 (high probability; 1:100 chance of flooding in any one year).
So, every house that’s ever been built is in one Flood Zone or another.

It’s virtually impossible to get approval to build houses in Zone 3 and Zone 3b is classed as ‘functional flood plain’.

Where, under exceptional circumstances, new housing is allowed in Zone 2 in my experience there are too many agencies and people involved in decision making to simply get away with bunging some local councillor a brown envelope.

Having said that, the EA’s Flood zone mapping is notoriously unreliable. Basically it works on past flood events and, where there haven’t been any, uses contours and river levels to guesstimate the extent of a 1 in 100 year downpour. Which is why, following extensive flood risk assessments, some housing developments do end up being approved in Zone 2.

The Somerset Levels have been functional flood plains for millennia and were flooded a few years ago, causing great distress to both residents and David Cameron’s government. Afterwards, for once, the latter listened to local knowledge, not theoretical EU eco-dogma, and allowed rivers to be dredged, as they had always been in the past. And, so far in this year of very exceptional rain fall, that area has not seen similar flooding.

wasnt a documentary twas on the press report on sky mate,

Exile on Spencer St 21-02-2020 18:44

Re: The weather around the world has gone mad
 
Sky news? I rest my case.;)

cashman 21-02-2020 18:48

Re: The weather around the world has gone mad
 
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Originally Posted by Exile on Spencer St (Post 1237382)
Sky news? I rest my case.;)

pmsl

monkey hanger 22-02-2020 08:16

Re: The weather around the world has gone mad
 
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1237364)
was on tv the other night, since 2013, 1 in 5 houses have been built on flood plains, thats 20%,so why the hell are they allowed to build em so.? my best guess is backhanders, cos there is NO sensible reason.

think most of us have said the words, they,re not building houses there are they, over the last few years no matter where we live. around me there has not been a house building scheme thrown out in the end since i moved here 10 years ago. some are suffering from damp after a couple of years and the locals saying we told you so.


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