Chris Huhne
 

So Chris Huhne and his ex-wife have both been jailed for perverting the course of justice and rightly so, maybe if his ex had heeded the old Chinese saying before you set of on a journey of revenge first dig two graves, she might have though twice about her actions, guess she never thought she would also end up in the slammer:rolleyes:

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They should have to spend their sentence in the same cell...let them knock lumps out of each other...the judge was right, they are both as bad as each other.

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Typical.

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He's right though:D

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Both are were they deserve to be, simple as.

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Not a long enough sentence!

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Think your right Frank, they both be lucky if they do 16 weeks:mad:

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And you think that 13 years would be a fair sentence?:D

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Throw the key away for me:rolleyes:

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They should be made to repay the police & CPS & Court costs - probably a 6-figure sum.

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Think your spot on because they were both lying through their teeth throughout the whole sordid issue:mad:

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8 weeks, then another 8 with an ankle tag.

£79,000

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You've told me that once somewhere else Studio:D mind you its still a joke and not justified by the cost. :mad:

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They should be made to pay back every single penny, the costs were more because they both lied through their teeth

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bet shes wishing she kept her fat gob shut now hahahaha

if your gonna drop someone in it for a crime its best to make sure you wernt taking part in that particular crime lol

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She served 23 years with a control freak for a husband.
Four months prison will be a picnic by comparison.

She hoped that she wouldn't be found guilty, but I feel sure that the satisfaction of ruining him is her compensation.

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Margaret, I am with you there.
This man was conducting an extra-marital affair, whilst purporting to be a clean cut wholesome family man.
He only ditched his wife for his mistress because the papers were going to blow the gaff on him and he delivered the news that he was leaving his wife by telephone(allegedly).
He has lied consistently about something that would have had very few consequences if he had come clean in the first place.....and something that was of little relevance....Ok he would have got a driving ban, but this man is a millionaire - he can afford to employ a driver.
I would have done exactly the same if I had been in her shoes(well, except she has hurt her children, but I think they might get over it - especially when they look at the man who is their father).
She has sunk his career.......and though she has given up her lucrative job....I'm sure she will get another one.
She is well shut of this man. He is only useful as a bad example(or a doorstop).

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Think everyones aware what a piece of crap Huhne is, but lets face it, she aint no goody two shoes either.:rolleyes:

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Hang on, has being an asshole all of a sudden become a crime in the UK:eek: I followed this case briefly, only 'cause it made the headlines in the British press; but I was under the impression it was a criminal matter and nothing to do with the personal lives of the accused.

For some reason, a few lines from "Macbeth" popped into my head ... I sometimes think that I stuffed too much useless stuff in there;)

Son: "And must they all be hanged that swear and lie?"

Lady Macduff: "Every one."

S: "Who must hang them?"

LM: "Why, the honest men."

S: "Then the liars and swearers are fools,
for there are liars and swearers enow to beat
the honest men and hang up them."

:D

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Seems to be the case wi some women Eric,:rolleyes: Both were found guilty of dishonesty n perverting the court of justice, Both have got their just desert's How they carried on in their marriage is sod all to do wi these facts.

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No it has nothing to do with the legalities, but everything to do with the motivation of Vicki Pryce.
She saw an opportunity to dig his political grave, and she took her chance (knowing full well that she was going to be implicated because she had been complicit in the offence. She obviously thought it was worth it.)......it was a case of 'hell hath no fury' and all that.
I think that most women bear a streak of that in their personality....I am being perfectly honest when I say that I certainly do.

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No Eric....it isn't a crime, or the jails would be full to busting with MP's.

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Sorry a trial has everything to do wi the legalities, otherwise we may as well all pack up.

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In other words, she misused the criminal justice system in order to revenge herself on her ex.:rolleyes:

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If it fits a womens addenda thats fine.:rolleyes:

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No - she decided that the truth should be known.
...even though it was never likely to make an honest man of him.

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So why was she sent down? :rolleyes:

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She confessed to a crime.

I lived with a man with similar personality defects for 8 years.
I knew that he had committed perjury - I did nothing because he was a 'police witness'.
It must have been a 'trade off' for something he had done.

The justice system is corrupt, but eventually the truth gets out, and natural justice takes over.
...and he was 'offed' 20 years later by persons unknown. - coroner's verdict 'unexplained accident'.

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she commited teh crime because she wanted to keep her husband out of trouble and the papers it was only when she wanted revenge that she reported it or it would have been reported a lot sooner.If there was any proof that she feared for her safety if she didnt do as he asked then she wouldnt have gone to prison

out of curiosity will she have to keep the 3 points or will they get taken off her licence and put on to her husbands where they should be ?

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Its that long ago, will the points not have expired? or will be a fresh start?:confused:

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I can't see how dobbing him in for something he did, was misusing the criminal justice system.
He thought he was above the law. Clearly he wasn't. If he had been honest(now, that is a concept - an honest politician) from the start, and admitted that he did get his wife to take his penalty points then none of this would have happened, but he lied and tried to save his political skin.

She felt justified in bringing down this man at some cost to herself...so she has paid for her revenge....and may end up paying financially for the court case.
They should both be charged with wasting police time too.

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She was a self confidant, successful career woman, probably more dominant than dominated.
Why did she cover for him? Because she was married to a successful man who was going places and she fancied a cut if it.
Did he bully and threaten her into it? I doubt it, she doesn't seem a person easily bullied or threatened.
Why did she expose him? Revenge, to wreck his career and his life. She was misled by a journalist into thinking she could have her revenge at no cost to herself- what a fool.
Why did she claim he bullied her into it? She thought the jury would feel sorry for her and let her off- marital coercion. They didn't believe her, neither do I.
Overall probably not a very nice person-perhaps they deserved each other.
They both deserve what they got and more- you or I would have got more.

If every person whose partner cheated on them went to these lengths to utterly ruin them what an interesting world it would be. We wouldn't need World Wars.

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You cannot comprehend why she agreed to 'take his points' unless you have lived in a similar relationship.

She was earning more than him during their time together (as was I), so financial reasons do not explain it.

You cannot comprehend how 'control' creeps up on you insidiously, and you don't realise or understand how or why until you get release from it.

PS it is akin to Stockholm Syndrome

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stockholm_syndrome

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I think she knew what the risks were when she took the action she did......she is not stupid woman.....but perhaps she felt it was worth the risk after the way in which he betrayed her.

And Gordon, with the greatest respect, none of us know what goes on inside a marriage....we only know what the two people want to tell us, and the truth is probably somewhere in between.

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I get the feeling that you ladies have a certain amount of admiration for what she did!
Ask yourselves- was it worth it?

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I have already said that I have a sneaking suspicion that I would have done exactly the same thing(I would have considered the cost and thought it to be worth taking the chance)...it isn't about admiration for what she did, but giving this arrogant man a taste of what he was keen to dish out to the mother of his children.

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I feel sure that her answer is YES



I can compare this to my joy at learning my ex was dead and had died in a horrific fashion.

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This shows why women aren't fit to run the world!
Cutting off your nose to spite your face has never seemed a good idea to me.

'The USSR will totally obliterate the UK but we'll have the satisfaction of knowing we nuked Moscow first! That'll teach the Ruskies.'

Now a man would have sat and quietly thought 'How can I totally screw up this womans' life without any harm to myself, perhaps even some benefit?'

Much more sensible.

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I'm just a little surprised you've brought the children into this Margaret, what ever happens he is still their father, come hell or high water. When I split from my first wife and I saw the kids I was never tempted to try and blacken their mothers name although I had plenty of reasons to do so. I see my eldest Daughter every week and speak to her every day virtually, even though her mother died 24 years ago the only thing I've ever talked about are the good times we had as a family, Kids shouldn't be used as pawn in any marital game

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spot on cashy

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You think that women are always on the receiving end in a Marriage Margaret, Some blokes I know are saints for putting up with some of the crap they get dished out

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I once lived with a woman, the world outside thought I was the luckiest guy around, but outside impressions are very deceptive, I was with her for around two years, but decided I wanted more in life than being dominated by a very very attractive woman, and eventually called it quits. Your totally right Margaret about control creeping up on you, but its not a one sided affair male over female, luckily I realized early enough and made an exit stage left;)

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your a very very sad person Margaret, that's all I can say really, feeling joy that another human being has died in terrible circumstances

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He had made two more women suffer after me (that I know of). Thank goodness there weren't to be more.

I suppose you were sad when Stalin died:rolleyes:

There are just some people the world is better off without.

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Was I born when he died:confused:

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How can you know what he was thinking? This is mere speculation, and you use it to construct an argument:confused: Could be a case of heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned.:rolleyes:

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How is it cutting off your nose to spite your face?
Chris Huhne(and many other men) have ruined the life of the woman in their life by their actions...they didn't think about it......it wasn't calculated as such, but ruin their life they did.

The analogy with the Russians and nuclear weapons in inappropriate and irrelevant.

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His actions make me think that he felt he was above the law(as with many other incidences with politicians)....and also the fact that this case took so long to come to court leads me to conclude that there was some skulduggery.....that perhaps he was trying to use his political influence to defray the charges....of course I have no evidence of this......but he has proved himself to be untrustworthy and duplicitous, so I wouldn't be at all surprised.

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I didn't bring the children into it....Vicki Pryce did.......but is seems according to reports(if you believe what the newspapers tell us) the children of this marriage were already estranged from their father.

Who says that Vicki Pryce blackened her ex husbands character...these are grown up children and are quite capable of seeing what goes on inside their parents relationship, and make their own judgements.

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John....where did I say that?......Please do not put words into my mouth.

Not all marriages/partnerships work out, but the adult way is to treat one another with a modicum of respect.
Chris Huhne did not do that.......he phoned his wife to tell her that he was leaving her for Carina Trimingham. Had the newspapers not been about to publish reports of his liason, who knows how it would all have turned out.

Had I been in the same position, I might have done exactly the same.
Disrespect earns disrespect.

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She risked cutting off her career and putting herself in jail to spite him by cutting off his career and putting him in jail. She lost.
She cost herself a lot of money and her reputation to cost him a lot of money and his reputation.

The analogy with Russia-there's no satisfaction or victory in knocking someone down if you're knocked down doing it.

Revenge is a dish best eaten cold- she couldn't wait for it to cool down, tried to eat it hot and got burnt.

Don't forget, for every woman whose husband leaves her for another woman there is-the other woman. What about her husband and family?

To balance your remark, Margaret,Many women have ruined the life of the man in their life by their actions.

Nobody said it would be fair.

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Gordon...she didn't cut off her nose....she dobbed in a lying cheating husband.
She knew exactly what she was doing....they both cost each other money...but as they have pots of it I guess they reckoned they could afford it.
He will probably be back in politics before his prison mattress has gone cold and she will still have the capacity to earn money.
Yes of course...it takes two to do the horizontal tango.......some of those 'other women' do not have a husband.
As I said in my previous post...not all partnerships last, but when they come apart at the seams there should be a modicum of respect for what went before.....in this case it was a marriage of 23 years........ended by him and a phone call to tell her she had half an hour before the press descended on her doorstep.......this was a man who portrayed himself as a wholesome clean living family man for the benefit of his political career...nothing else!

You are right...no-one said it would be fair...exept in this case, at least they both got the same sentence.

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I have to disagree yon also, Fer me it was not fair they got the same sentence, He should have got a longer un, Only reason he didn't is cos he plead guilty from the start of the trial,

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yeah you saw the wheel invented way before he was born :D

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They were both as bad as each other....and I reckon from comments that the judge made - he didn't like Vicki Pryce(maybe the judge was the same kind of fellow that C.H. is.......and thinks that women should be shackled to a sink, barefoot and pregnant....and do a man's bidding) he certainly gave her character an assassination in the summing up, called her a liar without resorting to those words.....and his way of redressing the balance was to give CH and her the same sentence.
As I said in post 2, they should be made to spend their sentence in the same cell for the whole 10 weeks or whatever it is they will serve(it certainly won't be 8 months).
Oh yes and Cashy, CH proclaimed his innocence from the moment he was arrested......said he would look forward to his day in court, where he would be exonerated......and only changed his plea on the first morning of his trial.
How much police and CPS time did this waste..........I concur, for the time wasting, he should have got longer and had to spend the time in Wandsworth, not some cushy open prison.

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If you believe the daily fail, he is being bullied (What a shame:rolleyes:)
...and has asked to be moved to the paedo wing.:eek:

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And its never been the other way round Margaret

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Exactly Gordon, that's why the Chinese proverb is apt first dig two graves there are no winners just two losers

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Ya Margaret I hear what your saying, unfortunately I was on the receiving end twice, the last time was when my second wife walked out after telling a close friend that she wasn't waiting around until they screwed the coffin lid down, that was 24 years ago, okay the screw driver is now on the mantelpiece but I'm still batting, so excuse me if I have very little sympathy with women

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Quite agree, if it had been you or me cashy we'd have got double the sentence :mad:

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Huhne and Pryce will have to pay the Prosecution's costs. The judge has adjourned the assessment of the amount to a future date. Additionally, ought there not to be some procedure to make wealthy prisoners pay the costs of their imprisonment?

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I can't any point in the imprisonment of Chris Huhne and his ex-wife . Certainly for Chris Huhne the personal consequences of his actions are more than punishment enough for his crime .

Neither are a threat to the public , so why imprison them ? Surely some alternative sentence would have been more fitting .

Each week in the Accrington Observer I read of people who are a threat to the public , or at least are a darned nuisance to the public , but they appear to get off almost scot-free .

The wrong people are being put behind bars , certainly in the Huhne case .

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They were jail for perverting the course of justice which always has been a jailable offence Colin, might make them both think again before even attempting to do it again

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Have to disagree big time J.C.B. Tis a very serious thing,perverting course of justice, if everyone got away wi such an offence, anarchy is the next step.;) The fact people get away wi stuff who are a danger to the public,is a different issue altogether

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I haven't said that either. We were discussing this case...not(to my certain knowledge) any other incidences where partners have taken revenge on each other, when they(feel) have been badly treated....though I do know of incidents where it has happened both male and female.

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And it would not have taken anything like the time it did to come to court....it would have been done and dusted and you would have served yoursentence and been out by now.
It is interesting to note that because the sentence in less than 12 months it will not disbar him from his political aspirations. Talk about power and influence, eh?

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the reason why they went to prison is because it was a very public case and something had to be seen to be done.If it hadnt been all over the news and press i doubt they would have gone to prison and walked away with a fine.

i suppose it gives the public the illusion that polititions arnt untouchable but so many of them are walking around free without even been charged for their crime of fraud over expenses.I forget the guys name but the guy whos decision it was to launch a criminal investigation into fraud over expenses is guilty of it himself so its no wonder he decided against it.

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Accyman, I think you are right on that....and I think that CH thought it would all be swept under the carpet, and it might have been, if it had not been for the press pursuing the case.
It took the CPS ages to determine whether the case should go to court or not, which smacks of people in power trying to pull strings....if it were me or you then it would have been done and dusted quick sticks.