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gynn 27-03-2013 19:51

Going to Your Mate House for Lunch, Taking a Pasty
 
Can someone please talk me through this one, please.

I'm a 14 year old girl.

I go to my mates house for lunch, taking a pasty. My mate nips out for a minute........and twenty minutes later the police break into the house to discover my dead body savaged by five dogs.

Talk me through the process, please.

Did I know the dogs were wild? Why did I go there?
Did my mate know the dogs were wild? Why did she leave me?

And who left my mate with five killer dogs.

It doesn't add up.

Less 27-03-2013 20:14

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Wow! I've been out all day, (meeting friends passing time and drinking), but even so I couldn't make such a strange post as this one if I'd been on a bender for a whole fortnight!

Come back tomorrow and explain yourself...




...Please!

flashy 27-03-2013 20:16

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Gynn, you're sick, go crawl back under your stone

Mick 28-03-2013 05:43

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I think it has something to do with the 14 year old girl that was killed by savage dogs

Girl, 14, killed in apparent attack by 'out-of-control' dogs at Atherton house - Manchester Evening News

Margaret Pilkington 28-03-2013 06:31

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why would you want us to talk you through it...are you hoping to emulate this behaviour soon......? Is it so that you don't make mistakes?

A young girl has had her life taken in horribly violent circumstances....and you, (crassly, in my opinion) ask these questions in such a blaise way.

If you want to make a comment...then make it, but do it in such a manner as to respect the fact, that there is a family today, who is without a much loved member.

Can't you find a little bit of respect and compassion in your heart for their grieving?

flashy 28-03-2013 07:14

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I knew what he was on about, I am a parent of a teenager and if anything ever happened to him like that I would be totally devastated, what a horrible man

jaysay 28-03-2013 08:13

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Unfortunately, gynn has this trait of posting in this way, a very sad person in my estimation

Restless 28-03-2013 17:29

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Somebody needs to goto thread creation school

Sunflower49 28-03-2013 18:12

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I thought luch meant a mouse.
"So I'm off to me mate's house for a mouse".
Good rhyming skills but a bit senseless :)

westendlass 29-03-2013 10:02

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Two days ago I was walking to work over Whiteash playing fields when a (very petite ) woman appeared with two huge mastiffs off the lead. One of them spotted me and made a beeline. I nearly fainted with fear, I'd just been watching the news about that poor girl. She started shouting it back and it ignored her at first, luckily it turned back at the last minute. How the hell is someone who couldn't weigh more than eight stone going to control two huge, muscular dogs like that.

jaysay 29-03-2013 10:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1049618)
Two days ago I was walking to work over White Ash playing fields when a (very petite ) woman appeared with two huge mastiffs off the lead. One of them spotted me and made a beeline. I nearly fainted with fear, I'd just been watching the news about that poor girl. She started shouting it back and it ignored her at first, luckily it turned back at the last minute. How the hell is someone who couldn't weigh more than eight stone going to control two huge, muscular dogs like that.

The trouble is with these type of dogs they can be so placid then the slightest thing can set them off, not my type of dog

westendlass 29-03-2013 10:44

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And the thing is you know you wouldn't be able to defend yourself if they went for you. Your powerless.!

DtheP47 29-03-2013 10:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1049327)
Can someone please talk me through this one, please.

I'm a 14 year old girl.

I go to my mates house for lunch, taking a pasty. My mate nips out for a minute........and twenty minutes later the police break into the house to discover my dead body savaged by five dogs.

Talk me through the process, please.

Did I know the dogs were wild? Why did I go there?
Did my mate know the dogs were wild? Why did she leave me?

And who left my mate with five killer dogs.

It doesn't add up.

Rather than talk you through the process, can I suggest you visit the reading room at the Accrington library and read up on this sad and sorry incident yourself? Sift through all the newspapers and then form what will be as close to an "informed" opinion as is possible for your grey matter.
n.b. Page 11 D Telegraph Thurs March 28 is probably the most sensible and objective piece.

DaveinGermany 29-03-2013 11:32

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Sad as the situation is as usual the press & public opinion are focusing on the Dogs & not the owner. A Dog is what it is, a pack animal that follows & responds to a hierarchy. The animal itself isn't inherently vicious & aggressive without provocation or other relevant stimuli.

Already the hue & cry is about dangerous Dogs & should the list be reassigned, utter crap ! Some of those animals classed as dangerous breeds can be the most responsive & loving family pets when trained, understood & handled correctly while those deemed suitable can be equally as vicious & nasty.

I'd personally put the problem down to owners & not animals as the the root cause of most Dog attacks.

cashman 29-03-2013 11:35

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Yeh nailed it pretty well yon dave.;)

Restless 29-03-2013 11:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gynn (Post 1049327)
Can someone please talk me through this one, please.

What is the point in anyone replying to you - not to mention talking you through it : if you don't return back to the threads you start and make another comment??

Margaret Pilkington 29-03-2013 12:04

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1049658)
What is the point in anyone replying to you - not to mention talking you through it : if you don't return back to the threads you start and make another comment??

Rob, I think perhaps he has misread how most of us on here see things...well, for this thread he certainly has.

cashman 29-03-2013 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1049663)
Rob, I think perhaps he has misread how most of us on here see things...well, for this thread he certainly has.

Always the Diplomat.:D

Margaret Pilkington 29-03-2013 12:31

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Thank you Cashy. I try to see the best in people....I don't always succeed, but I do try.

jaysay 29-03-2013 12:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1049648)
Sad as the situation is as usual the press & public opinion are focusing on the Dogs & not the owner. A Dog is what it is, a pack animal that follows & responds to a hierarchy. The animal itself isn't inherently vicious & aggressive without provocation or other relevant stimuli.

Already the hue & cry is about dangerous Dogs & should the list be reassigned, utter crap ! Some of those animals classed as dangerous breeds can be the most responsive & loving family pets when trained, understood & handled correctly while those deemed suitable can be equally as vicious & nasty.

I'd personally put the problem down to owners & not animals as the the root cause of most Dog attacks.

Sounds about right that Dave, my parents had three West Highland Terriers and they could all bite you for fun, especially when you weren't expecting it, although not life threatening they could probably scare a kid to death

Sunflower49 29-03-2013 14:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1049618)
Two days ago I was walking to work over Whiteash playing fields when a (very petite ) woman appeared with two huge mastiffs off the lead. One of them spotted me and made a beeline. I nearly fainted with fear, I'd just been watching the news about that poor girl. She started shouting it back and it ignored her at first, luckily it turned back at the last minute. How the hell is someone who couldn't weigh more than eight stone going to control two huge, muscular dogs like that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1049648)
Sad as the situation is as usual the press & public opinion are focusing on the Dogs & not the owner. A Dog is what it is, a pack animal that follows & responds to a hierarchy. The animal itself isn't inherently vicious & aggressive without provocation or other relevant stimuli.

Already the hue & cry is about dangerous Dogs & should the list be reassigned, utter crap ! Some of those animals classed as dangerous breeds can be the most responsive & loving family pets when trained, understood & handled correctly while those deemed suitable can be equally as vicious & nasty.

I'd personally put the problem down to owners & not animals as the the root cause of most Dog attacks.

I agree wholeheartedly. Many people who get dogs get them as a 'thing' and are unconcerned with training the animal or caring for it properly-and they're not the worst ones-along from this are those who actually aggravate the dog's instincts to protect and ability to fight to the death :(

As for the bullmastiffs-I think if a dog no matter the size what size is well bred, taken care of and respect for their owner is cultivated, I don't think it matters the comparative size of the owner.

My man is a foot taller than me and weighs 7 and a half stone heavier than I. Our dog is FAR more respectful of me than of him-she runs rings around him, because he lets her. I've had to train him as well as her!:rolleyes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1049668)
Thank you Cashy. I try to see the best in people....I don't always succeed, but I do try.

Me too Marg, but with some people I find it's frequent that I'm FAR too optimistic!:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1049673)
Sounds about right that Dave, my parents had three West Highland Terriers and they could all bite you for fun, especially when you weren't expecting it, although not life threatening they could probably scare a kid to death

I love dogs generally but I have to admit a little yappy dog will usually have me far more wary than a large one!
I guess I've always been around larger dogs so I'm more used to them :)

westendlass 29-03-2013 20:32

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I agree with you DaveinGermany, I'm not a soft arse. My dog is a five stone, larger than average staffie that we rehomed from the local pound a couple of years ago. It definitely is the owners. I understand people are scared when they see a large dog. People cross the road when I take Arnold for a walk but I know he is the most unagressive dog. Wouldn't stop me being scared of him if I didn't know him though. I wouldn't put the fear of God in to people with him being off the lead. He's always under control when on a walk.

maxthecollie 29-03-2013 21:26

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Totall agree it's the owners not the dogs. Owners need training as well as the dogs

Guinness 29-03-2013 21:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1049788)
Totall agree it's the owners not the dogs. Owners need training as well as the dogs

I'll agree that the chances of an attack are reduced with a good owner and well trained dog..but, all dogs are animals and unpredictable...that soft, loving, ball of fur can become a wall of lethal teeth in an instant given the wrong circumstances...regardless of whether its a miniature Yorkie that punctures your jugular or an Irish Wolfhound that rips your head off.

Was listening to the radio yesterday, a copper rang in to say that they had tried standard poodles as police dogs at one point. They were smarter and stronger than German Shepherds but the public perception was that poodles didn't have the same fear factor

gpick24 29-03-2013 21:51

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I believe that by even commenting on this thread, you are encouraging Gynn to make more threads like this.

DtheP47 30-03-2013 12:17

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Quote:

Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1049788)
Totall agree it's the owners not the dogs. Owners need training as well as the dogs

DinGermany's post #14 makes a equally similar cogent points, the one group and factor missing here are the breeders.There are some downright reckless and irresponsible breeders out there not only breeding the dogs with the wrong traits and characteristics, but ready to make a fast buck by selling the pups to just about anyone.

Sunflower49 30-03-2013 13:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1049890)
DinGermany's post #14 makes a equally similar cogent points, the one group and factor missing here are the breeders.There are some downright reckless and irresponsible breeders out there not only breeding the dogs with the wrong traits and characteristics, but ready to make a fast buck by selling the pups to just about anyone.

I spend a fair bit of time trying to help rehome animals-at the moment a staffie and two Akitas -the Akitas were bought from a breeder less than a year ago and they're in danger of being euthanised because the rescue centres we've tried are all full.
I was a fosterer as well but can't at the moment due to my home situation.

People are breeding for greed when rescue centres are struggling.
It makes me really sad :(

accyman 30-03-2013 13:33

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just incase anyone was getting worried everythings ok here ...

i took the kids for a pasty and so far no fatalities but if i find crumbs in my car that may change

Margaret Pilkington 30-03-2013 13:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1049796)
I believe that by even commenting on this thread, you are encouraging Gynn to make more threads like this.

Since starting the thread there has been no input.
So maybe the message has hit home - only time will tell.

Restless 30-03-2013 13:45

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Same with his last few threads

accyman 30-03-2013 13:52

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i find his threads consolodate anger and distain into a small area

they also distract from some of teh stuff i post and i get away witha little more than i normally would if his posts wernt here :D

cashman 30-03-2013 20:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1049910)
Since starting the thread there has been no input.
So maybe the message has hit home - only time will tell.

Yeh can't put sense were there is none, or so me mam used to say, I regarded that as very ironic, cos she was Irish.:D


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