Nigel Evans
 

Just seen on telegraph website that Nigel Evans M.P.has been arrested on suspicion of rape and sexual assault

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Really! The 'whos he' of politicians ? This will be interesting.

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so he has a particular type then

torys usually screw everybody

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lets hope its just accusations and not true.

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its a tory MP its probbably worse

at least no ones been found choked on an orange yet

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This sexual assault thingy seems to be getting quite common over there .... What next? Andy Pandy accused of hanky panky with Looby Loo:rolleyes:? Starting to sound like a Rochester poem ... "Much wine had passed, with grave discourse ....... "

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He looks guilty :D

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preston police station has been busy.

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This is a good thing in my view, They should start hoisting these as well, There will be quite a few real high profile uns crapping blue lights i should think.

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I actually Know Nigel quite well, in fact he's on my friends list on Facebook, this seems very uncharacteristic, he would be the last person I'd think of being charged with this.

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Early days yet Mr C.:confused:... they've not sworn the jury in even and the lynch mobs are circling.
Good job we haven't got the Guillotine or that shop on Bank Street would be selling out of knitting patterns. ;)
"Is it still open?"

The Canadian Minister for Tourism 'll be on telling us abour Mr Coupard and his slaying by Joseph Neel
ont Ile aux Chiens this aft :)

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he might be a tory, but i would be astonished if he was guilty.

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I would be even more astonished if yeh are correct.:D

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There have been so many seedy revelations lately that nothing surprises me any more.

Sexual deviance from the norm is more common amongst politicians than in the general population.

Often political career advancement depends on 'who you know', and those who are blackmailable more likely to be controllable by their mentor, which is useful when you need an MP to 'toe the party line.'

Many are closet gays. Nigel Evans 'came out'. Many don't. It could be that by doing so he poses a risk to those he knows haven't come out. Perhaps they now regard him as a potential threat rather than a controllable asset.

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PS his 'mentor' was William Hague ;)

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What was 'butch Bill' mentoring him in exactly ? :p

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OK -will spell it out for you -

In news today William Hague describes him as a 'long standing friend'

Nigel Evans, Conservative, Ribble Valley

"In June 1997, after the election and the Conservative leadership contest (in which he supported William Hague) Nigel was appointed front bench spokesman for Welsh Affairs and joined the Constitutional Affairs team.
In May 1999, William Hague appointed Nigel Evans as Vice-Chairman of the Conservative Party. He also led the Party’s Information Technology for the Future group. In November 2000, Nigel was charged with leading the Conservative Party’s General Election campaign in Wales."

William Hague denies gay affair rumours as aide quits | Politics | The Guardian
Rumours only. but when he got in such a lather about it, you have to think that it is possible

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Deviant behaviour is a means of control of politicians.

In the early 60s adultery by politicians was not acceptable to the general population.
One illustration of this was The Profumo Affair. He wouldn't have lied in the commons if his behaviour had been 'generally acceptable'.

Then the new divorce laws made divorce easier and cheaper to get. As more of the population divorced, it became no longer politically unacceptable. The 'control' shifted to homosexuality.

In the late 60s homosexual acts were decriminalised, so being homo is not a means of control of those who have come out of the closet, but for closet gays, it still is.

From 1974 to 1984 there was an active lobby group named Paedophile Information Exchange.
Paedophile Information Exchange - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Several politicians were supporters ( incidentally Savile was a member too)
Leon Brittan and the Paedophile Information Exchange | spotlight

"By the early 1980s PIE had over 1000 members, including people in prominent and powerful positions in the British Establishment such as diplomats, MPs, aristocrats, intelligence agents, teachers, and child protection experts."

One notable supporter was Harriet Harman who was their legal advisor before she took up politics.


The group went undercover when it became clear that the general population found that reduction of the age of consent to age 4 was unacceptable. Some of their members eventually were convicted of paedophilia.

So today paedophilia is the means of blackmail and control of politicians.
The numerous police enquiries going on at present are mainly focusing on celebrities.

I doubt that any politicians will be outed and prosecuted because, after paedophilia the only other deviance left is bestiality, and I don't think that it is in widespread practice amongst politicians. (Although one politician is said to have had hospital treatment in France for anal damage caused by a hamster). If the political paeodophiles were cleared from the commons, government would face collapse.

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The guys gay and has been charged with rape ! end of until the rozzers and the courts proceed further.
Unless your Google search engine has the MargaretR bias that is.

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I don't believe he's guilty - it's a set up!

My 1st post #14 in this thread explains why it has happened.

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We seem to be swilling round in accusations about politicians /celebrities. I wasn't aware that so many people were into alternative lifestyles. Does this go hand in hand with massive ego's?

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I also aint convinced this aint a set up, will have to see what develops.:confused:

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problem is once mud is slung it sticks regardless of if true or lies and in the majority of cases them taht slung it dont get punished

yet astoundingly people still get named before guilt is established

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One can only hope that sometime in the near future anonymity is removed from people who make false claims, if a person is named before any trial and is cleared, why should the accusers get away with it scot free.

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You sure about this? And what (or who) is this "norm":confused: Maybe it's me:dancedog: Well, apart from the handcuffs, dressing up, and assorted toys:D And why this obseesion with sex ... we are becoming worse than muslims (well, male muslims anyhow). And why does it seems that a politician's sex life is more important or newsworthy than his qualifications for the job he is overpaid for:confused: Whatever ... thing is, without sex scandals politics would be drier than a Hepburn wedding.

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Shushhhh Eric it keeps Margaret happy, leave her to it:rolleyes:

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Strange, he now says they were both friends and he was socializing with one of them up to last week.

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Strange too the bruise in the middle of his forehead covered by heavy make up??
Give us the latest MargaretR from Planet Ike please..... oh nooo he's not a unicorn sent to save us surely?

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This one fer some reason,is very strange to me Gordon, Yeh know what i think of Torys,But this just smells wrong to me.

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Rapist? Is he buggery!

Nigel Evans
 

Margaret, you do say some of the stupidest things. Entertaining for sure. If you wrote a biography I would certainly read it in order to learn what experiences you had in life that led you to be so convinced that you are the sane one surrounded by a crazy world, and not the other way around.

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I don't claim to be sane, but its not for you to judge whether I am or not.
Your opinion of me doesn't matter to me, and that's the way it should be.

Nigel Evans
 

Not judging, just pointing it out :-)

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I am thinking "compensation" is the root to a lot of these accusations .It is time the law was changed and a time scale added so if there are genuine accusations they should be made within a certain time eg 3 yrs . In the Stuart Hall case , he did eventually plead guilty and his accusers are now able to claim compensation after all these years but why have they waited so long........perhaps they couldn't manage of their pensions. I do not know Nigel at all , but I feel for him . Like others have said , the accussers should be named too.

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im not %100 on this but i dont think here has to be a guilty verdict of teh accused for someone to claim off the criminal injuries system

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I thought these comments from a 'conspiracy forum' might interest you.
It is a reference to the time on morning TV when Cameron was presented with a list of names of alleged paedos and he remarked using words 'gay witch hunt'

I think the point is that Cameron set up the idea that it would turn into a gay witch hunt. I suspect this has been set up to illustrate a gay witch hunt and that he will be found innocent. That's also why we know about it and the news hasn't been blocked by Leveson and the lawyers. They want us to know as it's an excuse to shut everything down."

"Reckon two other main prongs to their psyops:

1) Discredit those who claim abuse. that is - Evans will be found innocent - collusion between his two accusers.

Reason I think this is that so many of his colleagues have put their heads above the parapet saying what a top all round bloke he is - plus his 'name' was effectively outed from the Prime Mincer's orifice. (Camoron's stooges in other words)

2) A N Other attack on the constabulary.

Lancs has hauled in a few paedos - Hall for one - (Roache?) now this arrest. Far too efficient and proactive - their supposed to drag their feet and lose the evidence like West Yorks and Met. Besides - we're privatising the police force aren't we - along with oxygen etc - so can't have any positive Google Page Ranking for the boys in blue.

And a distraction headline was needed from the disaster local election stuff and a seeming surge towards UKIP - (who knows why - they're all the same - pervert, thieving self-serving lying bastards) (imo ).

Propaganda playtime - and buys more time to try and bury the idea that a TOP TORY CABINET minister was to be arrested for PAEDOPHILIA.

They'll try and bamboozle an ignorant public that Evans was the mooted Tory - and it was all a misunderstanding - set up/false accusation- so please all go back to sleep.........................."

This is an interesting slant on the issue - could well be correct - we wait and see.
Most posters a bout say its a 'set-up'.

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That sounds feasible...!

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politics is all about spin hence teh employment of spin doctors.Polititions will tell any lie and use any means to get what they want and to do what they like knowing they can get their spin doctor to weazel the press etc into making us believe nothing bad actually happened

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When you have reached the step of believing 'spin' happens, the next stage is belief in false flag operations which include photoshopping and 'stageing' news stories,

(and the end of the 'comfort zone' you have lived in all your life)

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One explanation I have read about the forehead wound, is that it could have been sustained in a ritual enactment of 'Hiram Abiff '.

I had to google - and found this very amusing re-enactment of a grand master masonic ritual.

Note that the mason gets struck on the head during it.

Even if it isn't true it is worth learning what these 'boys in pinnies' get up to :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loyOJCdDdSw

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Well it won't affect you Margaret, you never bother to leave your comfort zone to find out;)

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You know full well that I am not speaking of material comforts.

It was a little disconcerting to learn that we are regarded as slaves when we work and 'useless eaters' when we can't, and the deception has been going on throughout history (which has been rewritten to suit an agenda)

I now accept that this is the lesson we are born to learn. I have learned and am ready to leave when my time comes. Until then I have opted out of the charade you are all playing your bit parts in.

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Never played a bit part in my life, leading roll or nowt for me Margaret:D

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That of course is on the assumption that the video you have posted is true also :do-one: Margaret R

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Well i just don't buy it, knowing a couple of masons n knowing they aint that stupid., but i will make enquiries.

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After I found and posted that I did more googling and found lots more mason rituals detailed, and numerous references to that one. Some are amusingly gauche, some are alarmingly sinister.

They are all supposed to be kept secret, but such bizarre practices are bound to leak out over time from ex-masons, and from the masons own publications landing in hands of non masons.

The subject matter is vast, and rituals are derived from old testament and knights templar history.

In these days of worldwide communication it is more difficult for anything to remain secret.

To me they will remain as 'boys in pinnies who like playing secret games'. What is unsettling is the influence they have in our society because many of them are high ranking and control much of what happens to the rest of us.

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Amongst my research I learned that lower rank masons are 'kept in the dark' by those of higher rank.

The 'heavy stuff' is only for above grandmaster (3rd degree) rank.*
They are bound by oath to deny you any info - so don't expect to learn anything from any mason who still attends a lodge (or from most ex members who know that they can be intimidated still)

*PS http://freemasonry.bcy.ca/texts/masonic_degrees.html

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Oh i'm well aware they aint gonna tell me owt, Also well aware if someone i have known all me life is telling porkies.;) Its what people don't say in many cases.

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The official version of the head wound is - 'accidental damage during reiki massage' - balderdash.

Reiki practitioners treat the 'auric field' which involves hands hovering above the body and sometimes hand placement - ie. not anything vigorous enough to cause that injury.

He may have had some sort of massage, not reiki ;)

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To me this is only relevant if you do give a damn, I don't ho hum;)

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Margaret unusual for you I know but you are way off beam....it's common knowledge in Pendleton that Nigel was celebrating Ashura and had been "hitting Haidar"

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Buddhists don't hit lions - silly boy - go change your pinny :D

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Once a year, on Ashura, the streets of the southern Lebanese town of Nabatieh fill with the sour, rusty smell of blood mixed with grilled meat and oranges, as thousands of people dressed in black make their way to the central square to mourn.
Ashura, the tenth day the mourning period for slain Imam Hussein, grandson of the Prophet Mohammad, is a the festival of blood in Nabatieh, one of the few places in the world where the Shia men and children shave their heads, cut their foreheads and let their blood flow for the imam.
In the sea of men dressed in white who have been cutting themselves every year since the fall of the Ottoman Empire, when the Shia gained the right to practice their rituals, a few young women with bleeding foreheads stand out.
“Let’s go hit Haidar,” say the young men in white capes. They stand in contrast to the other attendees who wear black to mourn but who do not perform the bloody ritual. “Hitting Haidar” is the popular name of the bloodletting ritual in which the young men cut the skin on their foreheads and hit it with swords to make it bleed more while chanting “Haidar! Haidar!”—which means lion in old Arabic, one of the nicknames of Imam Ali, the prophet’s son-in-law and cousin, and Imam Hussein’s father.
Groups of 10 to 20 men and young boys covered in blood do their short Ashura round, circling the town’s market, while professional actors hired by the municipality get ready to reenact the imam’s slaying in the Battle of Karbala in the 7th century. Most women, dressed in black, stand on the side of the streets and turn their heads with horror at the sight of so much blood. But for the young men and children who take part in the bloodletting, the ritual is an honor.
“I am doing it for Imam Hussein for his sacrifice. It is my sacrifice for him, I’m doing this since I was six,” 12-year-old Ali, who just finished his round, tells NOW Lebanon as he rushes giggling toward the Red Cross tent to wait in line to get stitched.

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Yeh but they won't do that oer here, would ruin the Kebabs.:D

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Interesting - didn't know Ashura also had Islamic or hindu connections.
I don't know if he 'does' any religion, but that sounds possible but less likely than the masonic theory.

From Wiki -"The Buddhist asuras are broadly derived, in general character, from the wicked asuras of Hinduism, but have acquired some very distinctive myths which are only found in Buddhist texts."

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Rusty smell of blood, grilled meat and oranges Mr C.... just across from the Broadway :D

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He often goes to Chapel when he goes home to Wales:D

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You can always ask me ... I've been a Mason for about 30 years.

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Is that a Free Mason or a Bricky Eric:D

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A bricky .... but I only do camels:D

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In that case mind your thumbs :D

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Here we go

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And one for you MargaretR :D

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I can live with that Mr. D.:D

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No chance ! :eek:

...not even if the 3 minute warning went :D

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60 seconds would be enough:) or no too much even:D

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Yes the Beatles proved that.


YTMND - One minute is a long time

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'Quick fire experts' need not apply :rolleyes::D

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So what is the suspected source of the injury then?

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could be :spank::whack::knife:

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Could be he did it to himself for getting sussed!? :rolleyes: If your conspiracy theory was true - why don't they do it to some more high profile characters or someone like George Galloway. Perhaps it's simple - this guy allegedly was up to no good and got caught for it! ;)

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I think you have misunderstood me. He was 'set up' and will be found innocent.

The purpose - to divert attention from paedo investigation and prove that Davy boy was right:rolleyes: when he used the words 'witch hunt' on morning TV.

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More failed to understand,than misunderstood, in my view anyway.;)

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You are saying he was set up to discredit - not much to misunderstand there! What i'm sayin is why set him up? Why not someone else more worthy of being discredited? People aren't always what you see on TV - you most of all should know that! How many people have claimed innocence and then suddenly changed their tune - recently on the news?

Jeff Huhne - Stuart Hall and Stuart Hazel all claimed innocence then suddenly admitted guilt.

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No - set up to be found not guilty.

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Just like Sally Bercow has been "set-up" for libel? :confused::D

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Like thee fail to understand much! :rolleyes:

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Oh aye i'm a div, yeh sad get.:rolleyes: plus i watched yeh do it fool.