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cashman 15-05-2013 12:28

Life should mean life
 
Is what the torys are proposing, fer Murder of police officers or prison officers, Is this a good idea? I aint so sure, My own view is a person doing life without parole, is n increased threat to prison officers n other inmates, So fer me the only sensible option is "Top Em".

Less 15-05-2013 12:39

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The public being displayed yet again as second class citizens?

If all life is precious then it shouldn't matter what a victims job was, all murderers surely should be treated equally. No parole at all no matter whom you killed.

accyman 15-05-2013 12:43

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so why not life means life for murdering a baby or a anyone at all .What makes police officers and prison guards so special that tehir murder is more horriffic ?

mind you we live in a country where a man went to jail for calling a police horse gay

Less 15-05-2013 12:50

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If a fireman dies in a blaze started by an arsonist isn't that as important a murder as any other uniformed job? A train driver because someone put a concrete block on the rails?
On and on goes the list.
Unfortunately, there aren't any signs of common sense in such a change of law.

cashman 15-05-2013 13:15

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Less, we are second class citizens, already put in our place by our superiors.;)

Less 15-05-2013 13:40

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1058872)
Less, we are second class citizens, already put in our place by our superiors.;)

Yes, I know, I've been put in my place by one of these superiors many times yesterday and today, over on the bedroom tax thread!
:D

westendlass 15-05-2013 13:42

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I think we should do what they do in the US. Life means life and the jail conditions harsh. If there is a higher risk to prison guards then, I'm sure, safeguards could be put in place somehow. Long termers shouldn't get cushier treatment just because they have a life sentence. Also, I don't think police killers should be made special cases - all life is precious. All murderers /lifers should get the same treatment.

Eric 15-05-2013 14:13

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1058874)
Yes, I know, I've been put in my place by one of these superiors many times yesterday and today, over on the bedroom tax thread!
:D

And quite right too ... as long as your "place" is the Railway and they are paying for the beer.:rolleyes::D

Less 15-05-2013 14:18

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1058877)
And quite right too ... as long as your "place" is the Railway and they are paying for the beer.:rolleyes::D

Do you know Eric, if he was paying for the beer, I'd be almost, almost, tempted to spit it in his eye!
http://i3.ytimg.com/vi/rsfOam_Co0s/hqdefault.jpg

Eric 15-05-2013 15:37

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1058878)
Do you know Eric, if he was paying for the beer, I'd be almost, almost, tempted to spit it in his eye!

No need to waste the beer ... just let your kidneys process it and then ... well, use your imagination:D

Less 15-05-2013 15:43

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1058888)
No need to waste the beer ... just let your kidneys process it and then ... well, use your imagination:D

Nah, I couldn't be so common, like so many more like him that is the sort of thing they expect from what they conceive me to be, which shows their lack of imagination, rather than what I'm really like.
(What I'm really like I won't expand upon, I like the idea of being a disgrace to my profession, it's so much better than being a disgrace to humanity).
:D

kestrelx 15-05-2013 16:44

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How long is a piece of string or rope! :rolleyes:

jaysay 15-05-2013 17:07

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1058866)
The public being displayed yet again as second class citizens?

If all life is precious then it shouldn't matter what a victims job was, all murderers surely should be treated equally. No parole at all no matter whom you killed.

Totally agree with you Less, when they did away with the death penalty in the sixties they should have replaced it with life imprisonment full stop. I have never been able to understand why any judge gives out a life sentence then adds a minimum term, they may as well say 30 years because life doesn't mean life in our courts, I think there are only two people serving a full life tariff at the moment, one is the chap who killed Mily Dowler can't remember the other

cmonstanley 15-05-2013 17:50

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deflect deflect i will only believe this when i see it.this is to deflect the unemployment figures;)

jaysay 15-05-2013 17:55

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058907)
deflect deflect i will only believe this when i see it.this is to deflect the unemployment figures;)

No that's the encouraging statement from the Bank of England that the Economy is doing far better than expected, C'Mon slinks away kicking the cat because there is good news which doesn't fit his needs of slaging off the government:p

cashman 15-05-2013 17:59

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1058907)
deflect deflect i will only believe this when i see it.this is to deflect the unemployment figures;)

This is the stupidity ive come to expect from yeh, Ta fer not disappointing.:rolleyes:

accyman 15-05-2013 18:50

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1058900)
Totally agree with you Less, when they did away with the death penalty in the sixties they should have replaced it with life imprisonment full stop. I have never been able to understand why any judge gives out a life sentence then adds a minimum term, they may as well say 30 years because life doesn't mean life in our courts, I think there are only two people serving a full life tariff at the moment, one is the chap who killed Mily Dowler can't remember the other

i think the only time a murderer gets actual life imprisonment is when its a political hot cake like with mira hindley and ian bradey.Neither party wanted to be the one that set them free but not for what they did but because they knew releasing them would loose them an election.

i also think if you killed someone high up like the queen or david cameron you would do a full life stretch but when it comes to members of the public even children you can be out in about 7 years for murder

correction apparantly if you kill david cameron you get a reward.Not sure if thats true so do at your own risk :)

cashman 15-05-2013 18:53

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1058916)

i also think if you killed someone high up like the queen or david cameron you would do a full life stretch but when it comes to members of the public even children you can be out in about 7 years for murder

Jeez wish i was 30 yrs younger, i may just risk a 7.:D

accyman 15-05-2013 20:49

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1058917)
Jeez wish i was 30 yrs younger, i may just risk a 7.:D


iv seen ya mate the most you would serve is 2 :D

jaysay 16-05-2013 08:13

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1058916)
i think the only time a murderer gets actual life imprisonment is when its a political hot cake like with mira hindley and ian bradey.Neither party wanted to be the one that set them free but not for what they did but because they knew releasing them would loose them an election.

i also think if you killed someone high up like the queen or david cameron you would do a full life stretch but when it comes to members of the public even children you can be out in about 7 years for murder

correction apparantly if you kill david cameron you get a reward.Not sure if thats true so do at your own risk :)

Wonder what would happen if Millipeed was in charge, put MI6 on the job and blame the Frogs:rolleyes:

accyman 16-05-2013 09:36

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1058965)
Wonder what would happen if Millipeed was in charge, put MI6 on the job and blame the Frogs:rolleyes:

isnt that what teh queen did with diana lol ?

jaysay 16-05-2013 09:59

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1058981)
isnt that what teh queen did with diana lol ?

No that was a French drunk;)

accyman 16-05-2013 10:31

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1058986)
No that was a French drunk;)

im just relived it wasnt kermit

when you said a frog done it i was worried for a second

cashman 16-05-2013 10:33

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1058986)
No that was a French drunk;)

Or so they have us think.;)

GEaston 16-05-2013 12:55

Life should mean life?
 
The question with Hindley and Brady is why we're they kept alive for 40 years? Great cost to society, no benefit. As multiple child killers they were never going to be released.

Less 16-05-2013 14:11

Life should mean life?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1059014)
The question with Hindley and Brady is why we're they kept alive for 40 years? Great cost to society, no benefit. As multiple child killers they were never going to be released.

No remorse.

GEaston 16-05-2013 14:26

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1059028)
No remorse.


For child killers, no. I'd be happy to pull the switch on the electric chair.

Less 16-05-2013 14:30

Life should mean life?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GEaston (Post 1059030)
For child killers, no. I'd be happy to pull the switch on the electric chair.

I meant, THEY, had no remorse, we would be fighting for the switch.

Though these days the switch would be operated by a computer and we'd all have to wait for Windows to re-boot.

accyman 16-05-2013 14:35

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1059031)
I meant, THEY, had no remorse, we would be fighting for the switch.

Though these days the switch would be operated by a computer and we'd all have to wait for Windows to re-boot.


even worse teh computer woud have windows 8 and no start button

westendlass 18-05-2013 16:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Less (Post 1059028)
No remorse.

I think Hindley showed (false) remorse as she showed the police the whereabouts of the remains of Pauline Reed in the eighties. A cynical exercise hoping she would be considered for release. Thankfully, it didn't work and the old scrote died in prison and they had a job trying to find a crematorium prepared to dispose of her.

DaveinGermany 18-05-2013 16:48

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Why? What practical purpose does it serve? I've often enough made my views clear on murderers & those unable to rehabilitate especially the sex cases, a length of rope is far superior & more cost effective.

No cocking about with endless appeals, 1 month for procedures for & against the degenerates, then the sisal speaks.


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