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jaysay 24-05-2013 09:24
Enoughs Enough
 
There has been a lot of sabre rattling on here especially about Europe, I've been firmly in the out camp for a long time now, there also seems to be quite a lot of support growing for UKIP not only on here but in the country as a whole, seeing the main parties are hell bent keeping us in there. I resigned from the Tory Party 3 years ago because I don't like Cameron to put it mildly, now with what's going on and nobody has the answers, a new direction is required. So I've just taken the bull by the horns and I've just Joined the UK Independence Party, who's joining me?

Gremlin 24-05-2013 10:10
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They had my vote but I haven't joined the Party.

Aussie Irene 24-05-2013 10:12
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1060367)
There has been a lot of sabre rattling on here especially about Europe, I've been firmly in the out camp for a long time now, there also seems to be quite a lot of support growing for UKIP not only on here but in the country as a whole, seeing the main parties are hell bent keeping us in there. I resigned from the Tory Party 3 years ago because I don't like Cameron to put it mildly, now with what's going on and nobody has the answers, a new direction is required. So I've just taken the bull by the horns and I've just Joined the UK Independence Party, who's joining me?
Somthing needs to be done. Sorry can't join you.

Less 24-05-2013 10:19
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Don't like to nail my flag to any one particular mast, prefer to decide nearer to election time, though at the moment UKIP do seem better than all the rest put together.

cashman 24-05-2013 10:39
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Have never joined any party, but voted U.K.I.P. in locals @ will continue to do so in National, No question at all, No danger of owt else.;)

accyman 24-05-2013 12:18
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1060367)
There has been a lot of sabre rattling on here especially about Europe, I've been firmly in the out camp for a long time now, there also seems to be quite a lot of support growing for UKIP not only on here but in the country as a whole, seeing the main parties are hell bent keeping us in there. I resigned from the Tory Party 3 years ago because I don't like Cameron to put it mildly, now with what's going on and nobody has the answers, a new direction is required. So I've just taken the bull by the horns and I've just Joined the UK Independence Party, who's joining me?
today a member tomorrow P.M :D

Margaret Pilkington 24-05-2013 12:46
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I am with Less on this one.......I can't subscribe to any one party......they have a tendency to morph into something unpleasant....and I want to be able to follow my own values without any party political constraints.
At the moment my feeling is, they are all a shower of shi-ite.
Promise one thing but do something different.....snouts in the trough.

accyman 24-05-2013 14:28
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i thought if you joined a party you gotto vote on who represented you in taht party or is that not how it works ?

Less 24-05-2013 14:45
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1060418)
i thought if you joined a party you gotto vote on who represented you in taht party or is that not how it works ?
Nah, look at when Jay quit the Tories.

Wasn't the real reason because the Cliffe that was Brit, was overlooked for their Candidate to be Local M.P. Because they found someone that was local to represent them?

Didn't they bring a local lass from St Annes, someone so local she had to look through the Ancestory pages to find a near relative from around here?

Jay and many others would have blindly gone for his oppo' but weren't left with a choice because even though they paid towards party funds for years The party knows best.

(That's how the Tories put our local incumbent in power).

So pay them nowt' your vote is yours don't sell it/give it away or donate it, make them work for it!

:)

accyman 24-05-2013 16:10
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so basiacally jones got in coz no one had a clue who the tory candidate was lol

they would have been better off putting PB forward

maxthecollie 24-05-2013 16:21
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No thank you!

jaysay 24-05-2013 17:08
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1060418)
i thought if you joined a party you gotto vote on who represented you in taht party or is that not how it works ?
Depends on the set up, I resigned from the Tory Party because Cameron Stuck his nose into local selection policy, If I wanted that to happen I'd have joined the Labour Party years ago

westendlass 24-05-2013 18:09
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Voted Labour all my life till they became conlabourative. All a bunch of public school boys bumming around together. Such good chums. I can see very well why people are now voting for an alternative party, they've been left with no other choice. These overindulged spoilt brats with a nanny infatuation wouldn't know real life if it came up and kissed them on the @ss.

ossy kid 24-05-2013 19:12
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Not so westendlass, that's how they live, by kissing each other on the arse, now if the were to get bit on the arse they may take note but maybe not???

accyman 24-05-2013 19:16
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Originally Posted by ossy kid (Post 1060452)
Not so westendlass, that's how they live, by kissing each other on the arse, now if the were to get bit on the arse they may take note but maybe not???
labour are now more like torys now

by that i mean they would both pay good money to get bitten on the arse

even more to get a filling

DtheP47 24-05-2013 19:23
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I want Clare Pritchard to put up for parliament, at last a politician who speaks the truth. For those who missed it she said on FB "There were some complete T's in Oswaltwistle"

Way to go Clare !;)

DaveinGermany 24-05-2013 19:31
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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1060460)
I want Clare Pritchard to put up for parliament, at last a politician who speaks the truth. For those who missed it she said on FB "There were some complete T's in Oswaltwistle"

Way to go Clare !;)
Family packs of rocks! Bags of gravel! Sharp pointy stones! Get 'em here Folks! Everything you need for a family day out at at the stoning! Family packs of rocks! Bags of gravel! Even got some luverly pouches of pebbles! ;) :D

westendlass 24-05-2013 19:58
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Dentistry apart, kissing backsides and backstabbing is part of the makeup of the DNA of politicians. Stomping on people to crawl their way up up to the surface (just like detritus ) is just how they swim. What's a little pain on the arse when you can wallow in the rewards of arseolism. (is that a word? )

jaysay 25-05-2013 08:06
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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1060460)
I want Clare Pritchard to put up for parliament, at last a politician who speaks the truth. For those who missed it she said on FB "There were some complete T's in Oswaltwistle"

Way to go Clare !;)
I seem to remember that the present incumbent was a very popular choice (for some) when he first stood, he's now as popular as fart in a space suite, be careful what you wish for Mr. D.:rolleyes:

jaysay 25-05-2013 08:08
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Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1060468)
Dentistry apart, kissing backsides and backstabbing is part of the makeup of the DNA of politicians. Stomping on people to crawl their way up up to the surface (just like detritus ) is just how they swim. What's a little pain on the arse when you can wallow in the rewards of arseolism. (is that a word? )
Well it isn't but it should be:D

davebtelford 28-05-2013 15:50
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1060367)
There has been a lot of sabre rattling on here especially about Europe, I've been firmly in the out camp for a long time now, there also seems to be quite a lot of support growing for UKIP not only on here but in the country as a whole, seeing the main parties are hell bent keeping us in there. I resigned from the Tory Party 3 years ago because I don't like Cameron to put it mildly, now with what's going on and nobody has the answers, a new direction is required. So I've just taken the bull by the horns and I've just Joined the UK Independence Party, who's joining me?
Beat ya to it ! The big 2 (and Nick Clegg) aren't listening to us so where else can we go?

Less 28-05-2013 16:53
Enoughs Enough
 
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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1060872)
Beat ya to it ! The big 2 (and Nick Clegg) aren't listening to us so where else can we go?
By where else can we go, do you mean into or out of, Europe?

You may have beaten him to it but would you now like to explain the what you have beaten him to?

Otherwise you may go home with the T'shirt rather than the speed boat/convertible caravan!

Super, Great, Smashing,

Let's see what you could have won!

jaysay 28-05-2013 17:10
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Originally Posted by davebtelford (Post 1060872)
Beat ya to it ! The big 2 (and Nick Clegg) aren't listening to us so where else can we go?
Its okay talking about it I've DONE something about it;)

pallyman 28-05-2013 19:54
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ukip are tories in all but name and if they win enough seats,if any,they will form a coalition with them no matter what they say.God help us if that happens.:eek:

accyman 28-05-2013 22:41
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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1060460)
I want Clare Pritchard to put up for parliament, at last a politician who speaks the truth. For those who missed it she said on FB "There were some complete T's in Oswaltwistle"

Way to go Clare !;)
so what shes surrounded by them especially at council meetings

i fail to see how name calling teh people of oswaldtwistle acheives anything or qualifies her for parliament?

jaysay 29-05-2013 08:32
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1060912)
so what shes surrounded by them especially at council meetings

i fail to see how name calling teh people of oswaldtwistle acheives anything or qualifies her for parliament?
In the midst of a family squabble too:rolleyes:

Neil 29-05-2013 10:28
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1060933)
In the midst of a family squabble too:rolleyes:
Is it a family squabble?

I see a poor loser who turned his back on those who elected him while standing for one party only to become independent and allegedly align himself with another party hated by many of those who voted for him.

Looks to me like his poor judgement and contempt for those who voted for him put him in the position he is in now. Did he really expect the Labour supporters to still support him after he left the party?

DtheP47 29-05-2013 11:01
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1060912)
i fail to see how name calling teh people of oswaldtwistle acheives anything or qualifies her for parliament?
Apologies accyman ;) Sarcasm is indeed the lowest form of wit.

Researchers at the University of Haifa claim that sarcasm is a complex high order skill needing an ability to understand other peoples state of mind and emotions. Its low because it targets chiefly the sensitive, inarticulate, unsophisticated and powerless.

I'm not gonna argue with that. ;)

accyman 29-05-2013 12:43
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im usually good with sarcasm but i must admit that one slipped me by :-)

accyman 29-05-2013 12:44
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1060959)
Is it a family squabble?

I see a poor loser who turned his back on those who elected him while standing for one party only to become independent and allegedly align himself with another party hated by many of those who voted for him.

Looks to me like his poor judgement and contempt for those who voted for him put him in the position he is in now. Did he really expect the Labour supporters to still support him after he left the party?

i dont think it will be leaving the labour party that lost him votes but his selling of his soul to the con party for mayorship

cashman 29-05-2013 13:56
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1060978)
i dont think it will be leaving the labour party that lost him votes but his selling of his soul to the con party for mayorship
If he accepts the facts or not, These things contributed big time to oblivion.:rolleyes:

accyman 29-05-2013 14:16
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the councilors system is a joke anyway there shouldnt be party involvment theres no need for it.What should happen is people put tehir name forward to be elected without the stigma of a party name to effect things and teh best person gets elected

a big pluss would be no outside party interference and orders from teh local mp or party headquaters to do or vote a paricular way

without paty politics something of worth might get done to sort out this town but as it stands no matter who comes up with it the opposing party will vote gainst it out of pure spite or orders from higher up.

its actually sickening to think how much this town has suffered because red and blue would rather score points over each other than get something positive done

cashman 29-05-2013 14:21
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Its the same everyone,aint just relevant to Accy.

accyman 29-05-2013 16:50
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i have no doubt every if not most councils are ran by petty minded people unable to do the right thing and work together and put party allegance aside

councils dont need to be political they simply need to have a group of people who can work together

jaysay 29-05-2013 17:10
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1060987)
the councilors system is a joke anyway there shouldnt be party involvment theres no need for it.What should happen is people put tehir name forward to be elected without the stigma of a party name to effect things and the best person gets elected

a big pluss would be no outside party interference and orders from the local mp or party headquaters to do or vote a paricular way

without paty politics something of worth might get done to sort out this town but as it stands no matter who comes up with it the opposing party will vote gainst it out of pure spite or orders from higher up.

its actually sickening to think how much this town has suffered because red and blue would rather score points over each other than get something positive done
I've said that for years, even when I was involved, there should be no politics in local government, but it won't happen. The thing is that Westminster defines who is in power in most places, even Hyndburn when Labour were in government we had a Tory council, now we have a Tory government we have a labour council pure and simple and any councilor who tries to say different truly is in cloud cuckoo land, notice how the councilors who were so vociferous whilst in opposition come nowhere near now, that speaks for itself really

jaysay 29-05-2013 17:16
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1061016)
i have no doubt every if not most councils are ran by petty minded people unable to do the right thing and work together and put party allegance aside

councils dont need to be political they simply need to have a group of people who can work together
What is going on in Hyndburn at the moment is ridiculous, its very rarely you read the observer at weekend where there hasn't been a spat between the parties, if they'd get down of their high moral platform and do exactly what they were elected to do, SURVE THE PEOPLE, we might see an improvement in the borough, but they just carry on squabbling scoring points play one upmanship, until this stops nobody wins:mad:

cashman 29-05-2013 17:39
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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1061019)
What is going on in Hyndburn at the moment is ridiculous, its very rarely you read the observer at weekend where there hasn't been a spat between the parties, if they'd get down of their high moral platform and do exactly what they were elected to do, SURVE THE PEOPLE, we might see an improvement in the borough, but they just carry on squabbling scoring points play one upmanship, until this stops nobody wins:mad:
Yeh can't blame em fer that, most read Accyweb.:D:D

jaysay 29-05-2013 17:43
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1061029)
Yeh can't blame em fer that, most read Accyweb.:D:D
Well in that case they ain't learnt much have they, they've had plenty of tips on how to do it reight:D

accyman 29-05-2013 20:06
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the odd thing is when these councilors are out and about having their pictures taken with clean up crews and planting of trees etc they look so happy and jolly

perhaps they should take some of that happy and jolly into the town hall instead of just pulling it out for a few mins here and tehre for the cameras

jaysay 30-05-2013 08:19
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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1061061)
the odd thing is when these councilors are out and about having their pictures taken with clean up crews and planting of trees etc they look so happy and jolly

perhaps they should take some of that happy and jolly into the town hall instead of just pulling it out for a few mins here and tehre for the cameras
Why let reality get in the way of a good photo opportunity:rolleyes:


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