william hague
 

he is never to be seen , he then pops up about syrian rebels .thats about 3 times ive seen him on the news this year and all he mentions is Syrian rebels.I think this would be a grave mistake giving them weapons.we dont know who they are there are so many factions and nationalities involved.what is it about this obsession about syria:confused:

Re: william hague
 

give it a year and the guns we sell this lot will be shooting at our troops

Re: william hague
 

Agree 100% This is probably about revenue not aid.:rolleyes: The fact such weapons may well be used against British Soldiers in future, means sod all to a Tory.:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

Been on a couple of Aerospace Trade Missions where the Trade Envoy was a royal known affectionately as Airmiles A (not). Same applies there Mr C

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Why let the truth get in the way of a good government bashing exercise hay Mr. D.:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

So the fact Hague wants to supply arms to a force that partly consists of our enemies,is acceptable to you?:rolleyes: Must be no matter what yeh say, cos yeh didn't comment otherwise.:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

and this government is the only one to do it;)

Re: william hague
 

Makes no odds who does it, yeh still don't condemn it, Typical Tory philosophy. :rolleyes:

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Hawk jets to Indonesia..Robin Cook opposed the deal when in opposition Yet once in government, a remarkable turnaround occurred and he was reduced to being an apologist for continued sales to Indonesia. The government's policy, he explained, "was to pursue economic co-operation without being silenced on human rights.

Fact is gents last time I looked we were the second largest armament producer in the world US of A of course holding top spot. ;)

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Found this too:
. At the end of Labour's first term in office, Campaign Against The Arms Trade (CAAT)'s Chris Wrigley concluded that "repressive behaviour, denial of human rights and absence of democracy were not accepted as being in themselves reasons for blocking sales. It is clear that intervention against the trade is considered to be marginal and exceptional, and permission is the norm."

Re: william hague
 

Ya and I remember the promise of whiter than white government pre 1997 which turned into the sleaziest government reign in history:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

History, which most people are well aware of, Still it saves yeh having to comment on Hagues behaviour.:rolleyes: Which is what the thread is about.

Re: william hague
 

Sheer madness. Has this present government learnt nothing from our disastrous involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan? Here we have this pompous little prat strutting around on the international stage pretending to be a world statesman and for what? We don't even know properly who the Syrian opposition are. We could end up with an Islamist government in that country who are actively promoting the war on terror against us. Even worse, "mission creep" could see our troops in that country, putting their lives on the line for nothing. Meddling in Middle Eastern affairs has brought us grief before and it will again!:(

Re: william hague
 

But thats fine,with those who really are a Tory at heart, Rather than condemn, they recall previous knobheads mistakes.:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

It is strange, the human race is supposed to improve, (in theory), with each generation.

How can it though? If people use a mistake made by someone in the past be it the recent past or distant to say that it is perfectly alright to deliberately make the same mistake again.

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Re: william hague
 

"Peace is that brief, glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading". attributed to Anonymous

Re: william hague
 

Could it be something to do with 70,000 Men, women and children killed to keep a despotic leader in power?
:bangh8:

Re: william hague
 

so giving so called rebels most are foreign to syria and some are allied to al qaeda. that would be mental. i remember Governments arming the Taliban.

Re: william hague
 

our government along with america put sadam in power and look how that turned out

he stopped doing what they wanted so they blamed him for 9/11 and started a war that was probbably the main reason why we couldnt recover after the banks went to crap because it was financially screwing us

the only thing the two iraq wars acheived was doubling the cost of filling my car up with fuel

Re: william hague
 

too true. assad has a lot of allies in the region.this could open a can of worms and is scary stuff.

Re: william hague
 

As can listening to your drivel every day;)

Re: william hague
 

On TV today, Wm Hague described the Syrian situation as the most pressing problem in the world today. I don't think he is far off being right.

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I think it should be sod all to do wi us, simple as.

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I think most people are not taking in to account that Assad's main arms suppliers are Russia and China so we arm rebels they arm Assad and so it goes on and on

Re: william hague
 

I think most people are well aware of that,;) also aware the fact Taliban n the likes are alongside rebels, so we supply them, they kill more of our troops, not rocket science.

Re: william hague
 

im more concerned about issues closer to home than what syria is up to

hell deciding what to make teh kids for tea is more pressing to me than syria.

unless of course syria is planning a terrorist attack on my cooker forcing us to have salad then i will agree with Hague %100

Re: william hague
 

Don't think your far from the mark there cashy, the days have gone when we got involved in everything, or they should have, the best we should be doing is supplying words of wisdom which cost nout;)

Re: william hague
 

words of wisdom from a brtish government you got to be kidding lmao

2 illigal wars

decimated economey

solves problems by victimising the vulnerable in socitey

pours millions abroad while claiming to be broke

hardly any lessons of wisdom there and they are examples from both colours if not all three since libdems are in on teh action as well hahaha

taking advice from a british government would be like taking child minding tips from myra hindley

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You've got to remember this country ain't the only one that does exactly the same as we do, if every government in office did everything we wanted you would have something to worry about, we'd be heading for that iceberg faster than the Titanic

Re: william hague
 

I think ill ask William Hague who the rebels are,he should know shouldn't he? This could lead to the war of all wars:( this is different from Iraq and even Afghanistan .

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If the government forces of Syria do not succeed in overcoming the 'rebel' forces which we (amongst others) are 'assisting', the way will be clear to attack Iran - Syria and Iran are close allies.

So this 'help' for the rebels is a preparation for war to subjugate Iran.
As long as the Syrian army holds out - the start of WW3 will get postponed.

The greed for oil and power is insatiable - sad but true - all populations suffer - war has no winners.

Re: william hague
 

Always remembering who actually took us into these illegal wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, stand forward Anthony Lynton Blair;)

Re: william hague
 

...and the Tories were right behind him!

And from Hague's current determination to get us embroiled in Syria, they've learnt absolutely NOWT!

Re: william hague
 

As a new and no doubt keenly devout member of UKIP would it be possible for you to give us UKIP's opinion on the arming of rebels?

Or are they the same as your old Tory views? Find someone else whom has already done something wrong and blame them when the party you really support shows intent on making a similar mistake.
;)

Re: william hague
 

Yeh thats a much easier thing than actually commenting on another possible war.:rolleyes: or the damage Hague can do to our troops by arming the rebels.:(

Re: william hague
 

not one to defend torys but the torys were sold teh same set of lies we were .It was only later it became clear that blair and bush conspired to fabricate evidence to support going to war

if blair had stood in parliament with no valid reason to go to war i doubt any party would have supported a war

blair is a war criminal and not only has the blood of many iraq civilians on his hands but also the blood of any UK soldier that died in that conflict.

besides torys much prefer attacking their own people they get a much better view

william hague
 

Can't disagree, the lies were used, that doesn't make it a valid argument for the Tories to use it as an excuse to do similar.

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Oh its very valid, if yer a U.K.I.P. Tory.:D

Re: william hague
 

most definatley not but if anything it does prove that our government regardless of party is preppeared to use war as a toy to suit their own personal adgenda

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They were at the time, because of lies and duplicity and Alistair's spinning. The point is if the Syria isn't controlled all the world we feel the draft, from the backlash, hey but don't let that bother you lads you'll still be able to run the country from accy web, as usual, not one of you has ever taken any steps to do anything useful except moan at everybody else's attempts, just imagine if every body sat at a computer saying this wrong that is wrong whilst sipping a beer and smoking an Havana We will fight them on the websites we will never surrender:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

also has anyone else noticed that when a government is worried they may not win the next election wars tend to pop up or threats of inpending doom over war

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I don't give a stuff who wins the next election I won't be here, but you keyboard warriors will save the day, too the revolution brothers all for one and one for all

Re: william hague
 

thats the spirit

Re: william hague
 

Some fight at the polling station but don't claim to change from one alliance to another, wasting their brass on something new whilst still supporting the people they have no longer any faith in!

Syria may need to be controlled, but not at the cost of one British life, let's make sure of that.

Re: william hague
 

Pease in our time Less Pease in our time hey;)

william hague
 

Mushy pease, or garden pease full of yet more crosses for the young lives wasted just to satisfy some politician?

It doesn't matter which party kills our soldiers, it is wrong and looks like it will happen again.

Do you really approve of such action?

Re: william hague
 

Its wrong when any soldier loses his life Less especially on the streets of our own capital city when they are out for a walk, unarmed. But why do we have armies, just for show, why are we members of NATO, if everything in the world were as easy as sitting in front of a computer wouldn't it be great, Britain isn't, for its size, a world power by sitting on its hands and leaving everything to others, we have the best military brains in the world, I don't know enough about Syria nor do I expect do other people, except what we see on the box or read in the Guardian etc. if that's your poison, So I'll leave the decisions to those elected to make them, who to be fair have a hell of a sight more knowledge about the problem than the rest of use put together, but there is always the other answer isn't there, join the ranks who actually do won't to do something about it and get elected

william hague
 

Cutting through the above bull, you have no problem with politicians needlessly sending our soldiers to their deaths, because once you've put a cross in a box you don't need to think anymore.

Re: william hague
 

Funny how yeh didn't use the same argument fer Blair.:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

Simple flaw in that argument my friend....that would mean that they are more knowledgeable about the EU than you, and you should therefore leave the decision to them.

Re: william hague
 

The full region is like a tinderbox just look at the riots in Istanbul ,all started by a protest about a park .i would avoid the region like the plague as the full region is going to kick off big time.Yahoo! Maps, Driving Directions, and Traffic all these surrounding countries.no wonder Moscow is nervous forgot how close it is to this region

Re: william hague
 

So, the logical conclusion to that argument is that none of us should criticize any government because they have a "sight more knowledge" than us. Curious how that doesn't seem to apply when you're having a go at the last government? ;)

Re: william hague
 

At least I put a X in a box which gives me the right to a say, usually those people who shout the loudest never bother there arses to go to the polling station;)

Re: william hague
 

ya but the last government did have a track record of being Less than economical with the truth, more than most governments usually do, remember the, promises before the 1997 election. Whiter than White Government, Education Education Education, Tough on Crime Touch on the causes of crime, 24 hours to save the NHS and a few more

Re: william hague
 

Remember the above?
Plenty of replies from you defending a Tory but nothing about your
parties view!

It is a legitimate question and I would have thought easy for you to answer you'll have looked into all of their aspects before joining.

Or are we going to have to keep asking you again and again for an answer?

Perhaps you would rather avoid the answer, a bit like c'mon and his plan B.
:)

Re: william hague
 

Ya me like you've just avoided my last post, nice try Less:p the only thing that interests me about UKIP is they are the only party hell bent on pulling out of Europe, that will do for me.

Re: william hague
 

Didn't realise your last post required me to answer, it appeared to be your usual rhetoric.

Whereas I had aimed my question at you to try and find out what your new parties views are on the subject.

I personally wouldn't join a party just to be able to put in a protest vote, I can do that anyway, I would however make sure all their other policies agreed with my mind set before parting with any brass, (perhaps I'm tight, I blame my Scottish Father and my Jewish Mother from Yorkshire).
:D

Re: william hague
 

.

You are joking, aren't you?

We will withdraw from the Social Chapter, We will abolish the Human Rights Act and establish a British Bill of Rights, We will expand the size of the Army, We will abolish Stamp Duty, We will stop foreign criminals using the Human Rights Act to stay in the country.. .and, of course, there's that EU Referendum which he made a "cast-iron promise" on in 2007 and should have been delivered by now.

Need I go on?

Re: william hague
 

Hang on Less I had a granddad from Yorkshire:D

Re: william hague
 

That's why I don't like Cameron or had you not noticed, but when you have a party which has one main objective, you can't really go far wrong less to lie about;)

Re: william hague
 

So, in other words, this government is just as bad as the last government on keeping its promises and, to get back to the original argument, on meddling in Middle Eastern affairs. Hague's interfering will end in tears for this country, just like Iraq and Afghanistan!

Re: william hague
 

Of course they are, you can tell Cameron's lying he always has a hand behind his back with fingers crossed and another giveaway is his lips are always moving;) As for Syria, there will be people much higher up the food chain advising politicians on just what should be done, you don't really think they'd leave it to little willy do ya:rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

And doubtless, those further up the food chain advised our politicos to get involved in Iraq and Afghanistan and look where that got us. :rolleyes:

Re: william hague
 

Keeps shooting himself in the foot n can't see the fact.:D;)

Re: william hague
 

hes still got one good foot left so expect more from him lol

sorry jay mate but on this one your kinda diggin a hole :)

meant in the most pokey fun way of course :D:D:D:D

Re: william hague
 

Unfortunately there are people who don't live in the real world, and I'm just pointing out where it is:cool:

Re: william hague
 

In your opinion, others obviously think not.:D

Re: william hague
 

Its like rules cashy, rule one, the referee's always right, rule two if it is proved that the referee is wrong, rule one applies;):D

Re: william hague
 

Ah but wi cashy, rules were always meant to be broken.:D

Re: william hague
 

Shucks I forgot that:D

Re: william hague
 

wheres William Hague today:confused:

Re: william hague
 

Cameron and Putin have given a press conference from Downing Street today, both putting their side's point of view. In my opinion, Putin came across with the most rational argument for not arming the rebels, sorry opposition ( Camerons slip of the tongue). Pointing out the Syrian opposition's killing and eating the organs of one of their enemy, which was apparently filmed, he asked are these the people you want to support? He also said blood was on the hands of both sides. Cameron looked very uncomfortable.

Re: william hague
 

fingers crossed camerons refreshments were a little more radioactive than they should have been

Re: william hague
 

Or Putin gave him a playful poke on the bum with his umbrella!

Re: william hague
 

In fairness Putin is evil n clever, Cameron just evil n dumb.

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ahh but cameron is a bigger threat to britain than what putin is;)

Re: william hague
 

Good job it weren't Putin ED or the game would have been up :D

Re: william hague
 

well he has been shoved now ;) made britain a laughing stock.

Re: william hague
 

Perhaps its so he wont be as high profile,when the crap hits the fan?

Re: william hague
 

There were rumblings last year about Hague not standing at the next election, so I don't know why anyone would think that by moving to a new post that he's been sacked.

There was a list published earlier this month showing the MPs who don't intend standing at the next election which includes several Labour heavyweights.

UK Polling Report

Re: william hague
 

I fail to see why you should think Hague aint been sacked.:confused:still it takes allsorts.:D

Re: william hague
 

well his replacement has done more in a week than hague done in 4 years;)

Re: william hague
 

Hang on a minute....are you actually saying that a cabinet minsiter in a tory led Coalition government gets your approval????
I think I am going to have to get my smelling salts out.