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who is against or for fracking ? im leaving my mind open just now but the evidence coming out is worrying The Threat | Frack Off

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Many of us have already expressed opinion on this topic

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ool-57860.html

http://www.accringtonweb.com/forum/f...ire-64450.html

Yesterday's comment by that tory peer sums up the attitude of the government - north of Watford is already a wasteland so fracking sites can't make it more ugly and polluted than it already is.

Personally, I find open moorland more attractive than leafy lanes and village greens.

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sorry about that, but lets all have a vote to let the local politicians know public opinion. im now against.

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I voted for, reason being i'm still undecided n yeh never gave that option. Think much more research should surface before any for or against comes into play,

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How the hell are local politicians going to know the result of this poll in Bonny Scotland that's where Your local politicians are after all;)

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no fracking where I live yet but nothing will surprise me;) I see the water companies warning were swept under the carpet.

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i think i heard something about fracking where it was mentioned the ground could fall away from under blackpool i think it was if it went wrong

so no negatives as of yet

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Let's be honest, we don't know, there are even some on site that say no to fracking but given the chance of fortified water gained from this, would buy it as some sort of health giving elixir, so long as it's offered from abroad with an iffy website recommending it.

Looking at your track record and the way you view the world, if you're agin it, I'm sure it's the best thing that could happen in our world.
:rolleyes:

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Tell you one thing I'm definitely against - the number of polls you seem to be inflicting on this group. Have polls replaced cut-and-paste as your new substitute for coherent debate?

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Latest polls show people are loosing faith in polls :D

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I see that Lord Muck has backed down on the "desolate" north-east comment .... he actually meant north-west:rolleyes:

Fracking uproar peer causes further derision with geography revision | Environment | theguardian.com

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No doubt he can't tell his left from his right either.
Frightening that these people are allowed to breath,never mind think they could rule or even advise the rulers of the Country.

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i dont think a poll was needed because when it comes to hyndburn %95 of people will be for fracking the other %10 will be too thick to understand it

yes that was deliberate :-)

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Nah, you were just demonstrating that we always give 105%.
Like when Starship Enterprise is in trouble, Scotty always says, ' the engines are running at 105% captain, Och, she's gonna blow.

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And there was me thinking it was for the benefit of our illustrious member of Parliament :rolleyes:

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ill not hear a bad word said about him


until i take my fingers out my ears :)

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Well yeh look well fracked here Cmon, the polls not in yer favour.:rofl38::rofl38::rofl38::rofl38:

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Awww ... and here's me thinkin' you were Accy's answer to Yogi Berra: "Baseball is ninety percent mental; and the other half is physical.";)

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oH no not another poll. I refuse to answer :P

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maybe there would be less if there was some kind of Poll Tax put into place..

oh hang on that didnt work out too well for thatcher :):D

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Here you are cmon:
https://secure.greenpeace.org.uk/pag...paign=fracking

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Private Eye News: Under the Greenwood family tree has there been any meetings in Hyndburn or any planning permission given?

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This is worth a read in your quest for enlightenment CMS....

The town where 'fracking' is already happening - Telegraph

;)

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Pointless D, yeh can't put sense were there is none.;)

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conflict of interest there;)

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Well there's certainly no conflict of interests between a thick Jock and insanity ;)

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Come on D - that is the Telegraph, you can't expect our resident idiot to read that:rolleyes:

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He has actually copied and pasted items from the Telegraph...

...Hmmm, yes, well, just because he's copied them, I suppose, that doesn't really prove he's ever read any of them does it?

:p

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Not sure he can read Less:rolleyes:

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He can read that's obvious, make sense? Now, that's a different question.

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its ok there was one important thing they missed out. there is a shortage of skilled workers so they are going to have to import workers and drills parts from outside the uk ;)

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Can you rewrite that in English please, its really handy when you can make some sense of what your saying, or on second thoughts don't bother, it will only turn out to be a total load of crap anyway;)

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conflict of interest, bung bung bung Revealed: Fracking industry bosses at heart of coalition - UK Politics - UK - The Independent this is the real reason the propaganda machine is in full swing. Americans protest fracking as Obama cheers for it ? RT USA the cancerous and earthquake bit is scary:eek:

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As scary as Dog Stabbers?:D

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A form of fracking has been going on in UK for 30 years or so - not too many earth tremors and no-one running their gas central heating from their water supply - not that I have heard of anyway.

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What's more scary is they still let you out of the asylum at weekends:eek:

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZe1AeH0Qz8[/youtube]

excellent docu film Gasland

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQcIAhG49y8[/youtube]

Gaslands 2 has recently come out, in the UK soon

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American film makers have a history of not using facts to make a fact based film. All they want is to get peoples attention and get them into the cinema to watch it. Only an idiot would use something they`ve seen in a film to make up their mind about something in real life.

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Only an idiot would not research the dangers and clear evidence of the deadly chemicals used in fracking and chose to ignore the facts.

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But you need to look at both sides of any arguement. Actually started watching that documentary, got about an hour in but had to stop it to nip out. Will watch the rest tomorrow night. But there are other sides to the story, documentaries made by the gas companies in reply to gasland (truthland) and another called Fracknation which was made highlighting the lies of gasland. haven`t seen either truthland or fracknation yet, may watch after i`ve finished gasland.

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One is made by a bloke with donations (dogwoof the film distributor is hardly flush with cash) the other is made with the support of a billion dollar industry with vested interest.

I haven't got a problem with vested interest, but the trustlands 'reply' film doesnt actually disprove anything gaslands says, it simply tries to muddy the water.

There has been no critique film of trustlands as that's not what the anti fracking movement is about, they have the evidence and facts, the problem they have is getting the information across.

Can you imagine if the town of Accrington was in the same position of hundreds out towns across America where the people have had fresh running tap water for years, they start fracking near by and now the government is delivering water to the population to drink and cook with because the tap water is no longer safe.

Until they can ensure fracking is relatively safe (the same way nuclear is relatively safe IMO) then it shouldn't be allowed to progress..
The technology and techniques are still developing, waiting a few years for further safeguards is a small price to pay than the public having to pay a far bigger fee to put right the potential mess current fracking company's are causing around the world.

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this is interesting Fracking - SourceWatch

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I just find the "factual" films like this too unreliable, they are just after making money, a bit like the michael moore stuff. I don`t mind watching them sometimes but take their "facts" with a pinch of salt. e.g. here`s a jar of water, go get it tested, but don`t actually show where the water came from, they just say it came from their well.
Good banjo music though.

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well the americans are blaming this on fracking BBC News - Huge sinkhole swallows tree in US state of Louisiana

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BBC News - Professor Peter Styles explains how sinkholes happen i can do that.:rolleyes:

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Can you name just ONE of these hundreds of towns who now have to live on water delivered by the American Government due to fracking?
I thought not.

No they're not! There's no mention of fracking on that video either.It's caused by the soft rocks underneath dissolving away.
No one has ever claimed sink holes are caused by fracking.

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Cmons got a sinkhole i reckon.:D

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I'm going to have to go to Specsavers and get my glasses changed........I read that as
C'mons got a stinkhole, I reckon....it made me smile anyway.

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they must be fracking idiots to carry this on without knowing all the facts?

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So, may I ask you to put them before us?
:D

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Ya cashy and that would be between the ears;)

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Give me a chance and I will give you some examples


Fracking-Harmed Pennsylvania Residents Demand Reopening of EPA Poisoned Water Investigations

EPA Begins Water Delivery to Fracking Contaminated Town - Organic Connections

there is more if you want them.

closer to home...

Water companies warn of the dangers of fracking

all it takes is a quick google search

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and locally...

Ribble Estuary Against Fracking - News

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If the water companies are interested, then theres a fair chance it will be done correctly in my view, nowt like a vested interest to ensure it is.

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Yep....Google is your friend ;)

Since your first two links are about the same issue, my first two debunk it

Pennsylvania Fracking Study Shows Chemicals Did Not Contaminate Water

Landmark Federal Study: No Indication Fracking Contaminates Drinking Water | TheBlaze.com

Then, as you say..closer to home....

BBC News - Fracking: Water concerns persist?

Fracks and figures: the big questions about fracking | Environment | The Guardian

I'm guessing that when man first decided to dig underground for raw materials, that there were doom merchants who said that the ground would fall in and swallow whole villages and settlements.

Looking at the science it would seem it's ok as long as it's done carefully, therefore its about regulating it properly. Unfortunately I wouldn't trust a single MP in Westminster to think it through and put in a regulating body with teeth.

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Guinness,
I agree.

Im not a environmentalist, Im a supporter of nuclear power.
But nuclear power on the whole is regulated and governed to a high standard.

In the USA and potentially in Britain, the same regulation is not in place for fracking.

The situation in the USA is clear in my opinion - there is no problems with the local water supply, then the fracking begins and water supply becomes dangerous.
And its not only the water supply which becomes dangerous.

I understand why the government want it - and easy, quick financial economic hit which will create jobs.

But I doubt any of the political parties in Westminster will build regulation in the interest of the general public.
For a start, they will so what they did with the tv license, tax evasions laws, utilities, railways, etc - and use the industry's own advisors funded by the interest groups to advise on the regulation.
i have never seen turkeys voting for Christmas.

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so if the wet weather does this what about fracking:confused: Homes Evacuated As 20ft Deep Sinkhole Appears

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Maybe all those fractures will help with land drainage and reduce future flooding ;)

Obviously that sink hole has nothing to do with fracking. Do you have proof that fracking causes sink holes?

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So what about all the old gallery's where coal has been removed, if your theory is correct, large parts of Lancashire are going to drop 6 ft when the old pit props finish rotting away. Are you going to emigrate.

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And much of Yorkshire:alright: