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jaysay 01-10-2013 17:45

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Yesterday afternoon a friend of mine was on his way home from Blackburn on Blackburn Road Westend, he took up position to turn right up Spread Eagle, indicators on nothing coming the other way, so he made the move to turn right when all of a sudden a car which was parked at the kerb set off and broadsided him (very little damage), in the care there were seven gypsies, they got out asking for my friends insurance details which he obliged but they refused to give him theirs (probably didn't have any, nor a driving license either)say they had to dash to the hospital as one of their kinds had been injured and of they went. As soon as he told me I told him to get onto your insurance and tell them you've been scammed. Mined how you go

maxthecollie 01-10-2013 17:46

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Bloody Pikies

Gremlin 01-10-2013 17:54

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Let us know how he gets on jaysay.
It sounds like another scam for drivers to be aware of.

DAV007 01-10-2013 20:23

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scam

has he phoned the police?
did he get a reg?

Neil 01-10-2013 20:49

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If in doubt phone the Police and tell them the road is blocked and you are concerned for your safety as there is a large group in the other car.

Bob Dobson 01-10-2013 21:32

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Notify your insurance company and the police so that their number can be put on file for when they try it on later

entwisi 01-10-2013 21:33

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if he has their number call them and tell them he had passed the video from his road Angel video recording device to his insurance company and the police to ensure its dealt with fairly
and that the little ones injuries can be fairly assessed.


that should see off any fraudulent claim. :-)

xavtia 01-10-2013 22:26

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What a nightmare, having seen cars delivered on trailers and then people take a baseball bat to them, the only thing that surprises me is that they think they will get away with it. Hope your friend can get it sorted quickly.

There is another scam going on where a driver flashes you and the drives into you denying they had flashed you. Latest advice is to ignore people flashing you for any reason, what a sad state of affairs.

I was doing some research about a building earlier in the year and was surprised by the number of injury claims companies I came across in Accrington and not always operating visibly from a shop premises.

gpick24 01-10-2013 22:31

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Originally Posted by xavtia (Post 1077768)
There is another scam going on where a driver flashes you and the drives into you denying they had flashed you. Latest advice is to ignore people flashing you for any reason...

They tell you that when you learn to drive, flashing isn`t giving you right of way, it`s a warning to you that they are there.
Flashing Headlights

Or a warning there is a speed trap ahead.:D

Neil 01-10-2013 22:46

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I was told by an accident investigator never to flash your lights at a car. He was involved in an accident where a driver flashed another car out and a third car hit the one he had flashed out. The flasher was found to be at fault in court.

gpick24 01-10-2013 22:51

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1077770)
I was told by an accident investigator never to flash your lights at a car. He was involved in an accident where a driver flashed another car out and a third car hit the one he had flashed out. The flasher was found to be at fault in court.

I would have thought the car that pulled out was at fault, he should have ignored the flash.

jaysay 02-10-2013 17:31

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1077753)
scam

has he phoned the police?
did he get a reg?

The police aren't interested until the insurance companies contact them and he did get the reg and passed it on the his insurers

gpick24 02-10-2013 20:21

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Originally Posted by jaysay (Post 1077852)
The police aren't interested until the insurance companies contact them and he did get the reg and passed it on the his insurers

You can check whether a car is insured for free here - http://ownvehicle.askmid.com/
You`re only supposed to use it to check your own car, but who`ll know.

Studio25 03-10-2013 09:56

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1077769)
They tell you that when you learn to drive, flashing isn`t giving you right of way, it`s a warning to you that they are there.
Flashing Headlights

Or a warning there is a speed trap ahead.:D

I get fed up with people on the right who insist on trying to give up their right of way at a mini roundabout. Granted, it's usually old people who think they are doing other drivers some sort of favour, but it could easily be used as a way to crash into someone for their insurance.

Neil 03-10-2013 15:03

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1077771)
I would have thought the car that pulled out was at fault, he should have ignored the flash.

I agree, if you pull out and hit something it's your fault but this accident examiner says the flasher is very often found to be at fault.

Neil 03-10-2013 15:07

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1077881)
You can check whether a car is insured for free here - http://ownvehicle.askmid.com/
You`re only supposed to use it to check your own car, but who`ll know.

First one on the street I picked isn't, mine is :D

gpick24 03-10-2013 17:19

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1077999)
I agree, if you pull out and hit something it's your fault but this accident examiner says the flasher is very often found to be at fault.

A guy I used to work with told me he was driving along one gloomy day, went under a bridge. The combination of gloomy day and driving under the bridge turned on his automatic headlights. A car was waiting at the junction just after the bridge, and thinking he`d flashed him pulled out.

xavtia 04-10-2013 01:09

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Years ago only a couple of months after passing my test I stupidly turned a corner after being flashed, straight into a ford fiesta that had appeared from nowhere, I got blamed. Not a good start to driving but was a valuable lesson.

I got flashed at today coming through Haslingden not sure why but just ignored it.

Studio25 04-10-2013 19:07

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1078000)
Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1077881)
You can check whether a car is insured for free here - http://ownvehicle.askmid.com/
You`re only supposed to use it to check your own car, but who`ll know.

First one on the street I picked isn't, mine is :D

First time I heard about AskMid - I checked to see if my car was on it, and it wasn't. I 'phoned my insurers and it got sorted in about a week. Just because a car isn't on the database, it doesn't mean it's uninsured.

It's only really used by the DVLA when you're trying to buy your road fund licence online, and by the police.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1078015)
A guy I used to work with told me he was driving along one gloomy day, went under a bridge. The combination of gloomy day and driving under the bridge turned on his automatic headlights. A car was waiting at the junction just after the bridge, and thinking he`d flashed him pulled out.

Yet another rreason to get rid of these cr*ppy driving aids like parking sensors and wipers that come on by themselves. They are removing the skill from driving, anyway, but when they are sending false messages it's time for them to go.

gpick24 04-10-2013 20:01

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1078142)
First time I heard about AskMid - I checked to see if my car was on it, and it wasn't. I 'phoned my insurers and it got sorted in about a week. Just because a car isn't on the database, it doesn't mean it's uninsured.

It's only really used by the DVLA when you're trying to buy your road fund licence online, and by the police.

I agree about askmid, it`s there to check your own car, but if i`d been in an accident, especially if it looked like just a scam, i`d be having a look on there to see.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1078142)
Yet another rreason to get rid of these cr*ppy driving aids like parking sensors and wipers that come on by themselves. They are removing the skill from driving, anyway, but when they are sending false messages it's time for them to go.

I don`t think you can blame the driver aids really. Could just as easily been the driver switching on the lights. Never had auto wipers or lights myself, but the reverse sensors on the van are very handy.

accyman 05-10-2013 14:34

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automatic lights arnt at fault your not supposed to take notice of flashing headlights its at yuor own risk if you do

easy solution if possible is to look for teh driver waving you on as well.Even a car going over a speed bump or pothole can appear that a driver is flashing their lights its not just automatic headlights you need to worry about.

if unsure stay put and do as the highway code says i guess lol

Studio25 06-10-2013 08:22

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1078242)
...easy solution if possible is to look for teh driver waving you on as well...

I don't even trust that - mostly because they might be waving at someone else.

Mind you, I won't even cross the road if I don't know what a driver's intentions are: They don't seem to realise that on an overcast day, their windscreen is reflecting clouds and there is a good chance a pedestrian simply can't see into the car.

DAV007 06-10-2013 13:01

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I read you can now get cameras for your car that sit on the dash?
Does it not say something about our society that people have to take such measures?
And people say we are the most enlightened point in human history!

gpick24 06-10-2013 13:10

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078389)
I read you can now get cameras for your car that sit on the dash?
Does it not say something about our society that people have to take such measures?
And people say we are the most enlightened point in human history!

Can also get phone apps the do the same thing. I have isymdvr, doesn`t half drain your battery though, but worth it if you can avoid things like this -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TQN8B8Jb9k

DAV007 06-10-2013 13:16

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do you plug it into your ciggy litter?
what is the product called?
how much?
link?

gpick24 06-10-2013 13:26

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Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078398)
do you plug it into your ciggy litter?
what is the product called?
how much?
link?

It`s a phone app, and yes i plug it into lighter socket, but still have to turn off lots of stuff otherwise the battery drains. Phone also gets quite hot.
iSymDVR - professional video recorder utility for iPhone
There is a free version of the app, but some of the settings can`t be altered.

Studio25 08-10-2013 08:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by DAV007 (Post 1078398)
do you plug it into your ciggy litter?
what is the product called?
how much?
link?

Or if you are on Android, the free Dailyroads Voyager

GJWatson 10-10-2013 07:33

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i dont know how people can live with themselves when doing this to be honest. Perhaps my up bringing has something to do with that!


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