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cmonstanley 06-01-2014 18:34

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ive thought this deserves a thread of its own;) George Osborne says he is going to cut another £25 billion. where do we think he is going to make these cuts

jaysay 06-01-2014 19:05

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ive thought this deserves a thread of its own;) George Osborne says he is going to cut another £25 billion. where do we think he is going to make these cuts

Getting rid of Scotland will help;)

DaveinGermany 06-01-2014 19:26

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Getting rid of Scotland will help;)

Now there's a thing, if Wee Puddin' chops McSalmond gets his way, C'mon will need to get an entry visa for his visits to the deep South!

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cmonstanley 06-01-2014 19:28

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Getting rid of Scotland will help;)

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cmonstanley 06-01-2014 21:24

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but seriously its good bye to the bus pass in England and then watch the bus fares go through the roof. that's another privatized sector propped up by subsidized taxpayers money with the profit going to the few.

Mick 10-01-2014 14:19

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I can't see the point in this poll
As according to the news he is going to make cuts on all of them not just one

accyman 10-01-2014 16:03

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could save a few quid if we cut the troats of some of the MP's

cmonstanley 10-01-2014 18:22

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thats what he says but the lib dems will stop a couple just before the election to show face.. or its a plan;)

Wynonie Harris 11-01-2014 04:08

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Originally Posted by Mick (Post 1090076)
I can't see the point in this poll
As according to the news he is going to make cuts on all of them not just one

Is there any point in any of his polls? They're not genuine polls, just crude, hamfisted attempts at political propaganda. :rolleyes:

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 09:29

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last time i looked it was a democratic country. this is a genuine poll as we haven't seen the bulk of cuts implemented. people are free to vent their views. how is the truth propaganda .the propaganda is the constant nhs bashing ,the judgmental views that everybody on benefits are scrounging thieving scum that is portrayed in the right wing press and news channels.

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 09:32

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and 16 people have disagreed with you

Margaret Pilkington 11-01-2014 09:38

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That is their democratic right...to disagree.
Mick is entitled to his opinion, as you are to yours.....but it does strike me that you only post such stuff to (allegedly) promote your beloved Labour values...which even the Labour party no longer uphold. So like Mick (even though people will disagree with me as well) I think what he says is right.
Mick I second your views!

Margaret Pilkington 11-01-2014 09:40

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Oh, and according to the poll only ten people have voted...so not 16 as in your post.

DaveinGermany 11-01-2014 09:58

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090146)
last time i looked it was a democratic country.

Ah, and which Country are we talking about exactly?

Margaret Pilkington 11-01-2014 10:37

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You know these benefits are talked of as if we, the pensioner, is being given somethig for nothing.
That is not the case. I paid for my pension by contributions over my working life. I pay for my bus pass and my winter heating allowance with my taxes...yes, I still pay taxes on my pension.
If pensioners were allotted(I have avoided the use of 'given' as this benefit has been earned) a pension which reflected how much it costs to live, then bus passes and Winter heating allowances would not be required.

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 11:48

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there will be no pensions in the future only private ones annd everybody else will rely on food banks. that is osbournes plan.

DaveinGermany 11-01-2014 12:00

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there will be no pensions in the future only private ones annd everybody else will rely on food banks. that is osbournes plan.

And of course, you can confirm & quantify this assertion can you?

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 13:46

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its already happening ;) people relying on food banks.

DaveinGermany 11-01-2014 14:28

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its already happening ;) people relying on food banks.

Deary me C'mon, your stated declaration was "There will be no pensions" & "And everybody else will rely on food banks". I asked for you to verify this sweeping allegation, your reply, the above quote.
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To my mind your response certainly doesn't cut it ........ again!

If you're going to demonize/slate//denigrate or deride an issue/person /policy at least have the decency to supply relevant facts & proof to substantiate your prattle (and not, I hasten to add, some leftist pap taken from some kind of raging red blog/opinion piece), then maybe, just maybe, your ramblings could carry some veracity. http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m1216.gif

Barrie Yates 11-01-2014 15:05

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there will be no pensions in the future only private ones annd everybody else will rely on food banks. that is osbournes plan.


So make sure you and your friends(?), vote for independence for Scotland, then you won't have to worry about what Osborne does.

Wynonie Harris 11-01-2014 16:58

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last time i looked it was a democratic country. this is a genuine poll as we haven't seen the bulk of cuts implemented. people are free to vent their views. how is the truth propaganda .the propaganda is the constant nhs bashing ,the judgmental views that everybody on benefits are scrounging thieving scum that is portrayed in the right wing press and news channels.

Did you run spurious polls on here when Labour were in power? Did you constantly cut and paste stories about their cock-ups (and there were many), accompanied by your semi-literate, semi-comprehensible jabber? Did you heck as like, because you're a party stooge, pure and simple, using this forum for your own ends. Face it, C'mon, your credibility's totally shot!

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 17:03

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i live in both countries with travelling here and there my family were all born in England see my family is British as the father in law was welsh my great granny was Irish see they all managed to live together but if you dont like somebody because of their nationality youve had a really sad life hope your just being daft as a brush because i thought people like that had evolved ;)

DaveinGermany 11-01-2014 17:11

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To my mind your response certainly doesn't cut it ........ again!

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Originally Posted by Wynonie Harris (Post 1090207)
Face it, C'mon, your credibility's totally shot!

Well, that's 2 "No's" from this panel, just need the fat ladies final squawk & it's all over! http://www.world-of-smilies.com/wos_musik/18.gif

DaveinGermany 11-01-2014 17:24

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i live in both countries with travelling here and there my family were all born in England see my family is British as the father in law was welsh my great granny was Irish see they all managed to live together but if you dont like somebody because of their nationality youve had a really sad life hope your just being daft as a brush because i thought people like that had evolved ;)

After trying to dissemble the above garbled potted family history, I assume you're responding to Barrie's post? :idunno:

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 17:37

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Did you run spurious polls on here when Labour were in power? Did you constantly cut and paste stories about their cock-ups (and there were many), accompanied by your semi-literate, semi-comprehensible jabber? Did you heck as like, because you're a party stooge, pure and simple, using this forum for your own ends. Face it, C'mon, your credibility's totally shot!

i did actually ;)

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 17:42

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Originally Posted by DaveinGermany (Post 1090190)
Deary me C'mon, your stated declaration was "There will be no pensions" & "And everybody else will rely on food banks". I asked for you to verify this sweeping allegation, your reply, the above quote.
http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/think/m1719.gif

To my mind your response certainly doesn't cut it ........ again!

If you're going to demonize/slate//denigrate or deride an issue/person /policy at least have the decency to supply relevant facts & proof to substantiate your prattle (and not, I hasten to add, some leftist pap taken from some kind of raging red blog/opinion piece), then maybe, just maybe, your ramblings could carry some veracity. http://yoursmiles.org/msmile/pozitive/m1216.gif

you have no idea what is happening in britain just now do you:confused: the trussel trust say 500,000 people used their food bank so thats not counting the rest of the charities. you have no idea what is happening in the job centres you have no idea about the bedroom tax which is costing millions and hardship for people who cant move and need carers actually you are totally clueless;)

Margaret Pilkington 11-01-2014 18:27

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half a million people rely on food banks according to what you tell us.......that isn't everyone.
And as for you posting polls of the inadequacies of the last lot....I can say, hand on heart, that I do not recall this happening....and I am not alone in this.

This is why your posts are taken with a great big handful of salt because you only post sensationalist stuff, cut and pastes with no real discussion of any topic at all.
Any legible, readable discusssion is usually not your handiwork, but that of some blogger on the Huffington Post.

DaveinGermany 11-01-2014 18:27

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090214)
you have no idea what is happening in britain just now do you:confused:

Ah, the typical stock response it seems!

actually you are totally clueless;)

This too it appears!

Really? And how do you come to that assumption? Your response is what I typically expect from you C'mon when you're struggling to put forward a thought out, balanced & cohesive argument (an extremely rare event at the best of times I might add!) in your own terms without recourse to some flimsy "C&P". Which you invariable post due to the sensationalist headline rather than the actual articles content.

For your information C'mon, I view various local & national news casts from UK, read a variety of current news articles on line from different publishers & listen to British radio broadcasts where possible while under way. From all of the previous, I then manage to extrapolate an approximation of the truth appertaining to current affairs within the UK. After disassociating the political & personal leanings, prejudices & predilections of the particular broadcaster/company, I believe I come away with a rather more balanced view of the UK situation than you ever could or for that matter would choose to!

So, to that extent, I would refer you to your own tedious & predictable response & say that your standard response could & should equally apply to your daily biased utterings!

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Wynonie Harris 11-01-2014 21:03

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090213)
i did actually ;)

Well, I don't recall them and nor does anybody else it would seem. Are you really, really sure, C'mon?

cmonstanley 11-01-2014 21:13

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you must be mental if you believe the news in the uk they only tell you what their hedge fund managers want to tell you. i see it every day. it would make your stomach churn if you knew what was happening Iain Duncan Smith tells bereaved boy Kieran McArdle to 'go the Jobcentre' | Political Scrapbook deaths up 30% in the mildest winter for centuries terminal ill people found fit for work yes you know whats happening . you dont even know what happens in Germany when you were commenting on part time fire fighters ;)

Margaret Pilkington 11-01-2014 21:26

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And you, C'mon......you are one of the informed inner circle I presume.
One of the elite who has the ear of politicians. You slide under the door of cabinet meetings to hear of all the nefarious ways that the current incumbents are going to act.....where exactly do you get your news from ?
I would hazard a guess that you get it from the same source as the rest of us....but that you seize on the sensationalist headlines.....in much the way that all of the media do.....you fish out the negative stuff to cut and paste for our consumption on here......anything that might be the tiniest bit positive.....well, you do what the BBC does.....you bury it or ignore it.
Do you really think you are the only member of Accyweb who has a brain in their head?
The only person on here who can think for themselves? The only person who can use the internet to view a variety of thoughts and opinions on news items.....or should I say political news items? We are all capable of sifting through the political stuff and making our minds up about what is afoot.

Please do us all the courtesy of allowing us to make our own minds up about what is going on around us.

Margaret Pilkington 11-01-2014 21:28

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Oh yes.....and when you are looking to call people fools,mental, whatever insult takes your fancy.....don't forget to look in the mirror!

DaveinGermany 11-01-2014 23:26

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090239)
you must be mental if you believe the news in the uk

Once again resorting to standard insults.

yes you know whats happening

Yes I believe I do.

you dont even know what happens in Germany when you were commenting on part time fire fighters

Oh, and of course you do?

Once again C'mon you exhibit your basic ignorance & arrogance ln "debate" with your meagre & limited opinion I've maintained a certain decorum while pulling your "argument" up on its shortcomings & lack of depth, I don't need to resort to petty childish name calling. Now, unless you can back up your claims & present reasoned argument I'll simply disdain & treat with contempt your juvenile narrow minded & limited intellect comments.

Basically Fella, "Put up or shut up!"

cmonstanley 12-01-2014 01:15

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Woman who took her own life over bedroom tax would have been exempt | Society | The Guardian one example there are thousands. i know a person who was paralyzed,who had to move to a neighborhood 10 miles away just because they had a spare bedroom for his carers who took turns. it cost more money to adapt his new house.

cmonstanley 12-01-2014 01:27

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just to prove every word that comes out his mouth is a lie George Osborne and the Tory debt lie - NAILED - YouTube

Margaret Pilkington 12-01-2014 08:56

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Politicians lie..it is what they do.
All politicians...not just the tory ones.......those labour ones that you are so beloved of do it too.....and there are not many poor politicians anywhere.
Many of them (even the Labour ones) have had a privileged upbringing.
This clip adds nothing to your discussion.
It seems to me that you aren't really a supporter of Labour tenets, but of communism...and that doesn't work either.

cmonstanley 12-01-2014 09:42

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i see it every day. the things i see now are shocking. it is now trendy to make other peoples life a misery. i give what i get .the im alright jack brigade is laughable. i will never forget my working class roots. there is always going to be people at the bottom of the pile, the tories are making it harder for people to climb up the pile. and dave i have plenty of depth i see this government in action everyday the injustice of this government, the treatment of the disabled now. no wonder they were booed at the Olympics. Video: George Osborne booed during Paralympic 2012 medal ceremony in Olympic Stadium - Telegraph

Margaret Pilkington 12-01-2014 09:48

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Truth is a moveable object.
The biggest lie is that we can change things in a democratic process by voting.
Voting changes nothing...if it did then we would be banned from doing it.
No party adheres to their manifesto anyway....so the people who want your vote promise you what they think you want....knowing full well that they can do pretty much what they like once they get into power....and truth....well, that is what those who are in power tell us it is.

Margaret Pilkington 12-01-2014 09:50

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090279)
i see it every day. the things i see now are shocking. it is now trendy to make other peoples life a misery. i give what i get .the im alright jack brigade is laughable. i will never forget my working class roots. there is always going to be people at the bottom of the pile, the tories are making it harder for people to climb up the pile. and dave i have plenty of depth i see this government in action everyday the injustice of this government, the treatment of the disabled now. no wonder they were booed at the Olympics. Video: George Osborne booed during Paralympic 2012 medal ceremony in Olympic Stadium - Telegraph

Next time you have slid into a cabinet meeting...why don't you tell them all this?
I am sure they will listen to your considered and well thought out ideas for the welfare state.
I guess that you will advise them where to get the money for your ideas too.

cmonstanley 12-01-2014 09:55

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first thing i would do is sack atos fraudsters.. Brain-damaged amputee fit for work, says Atos - UK Politics - UK - The Independent what does ids do he gets rid of appeals.

Margaret Pilkington 12-01-2014 10:01

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Make a note of it for your next invite to the appropriate cabinet meeting.

Less 12-01-2014 10:57

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090214)
you have no idea what is happening in britain just now do you:confused: the trussel trust say 500,000 people used their food bank so thats not counting the rest of the charities. ;)

I wonder if the people using that trust are of the same calibre as some druggies I overheard the other day in my local, the lass behind the bar didn't know that these guys were banned, but by heck the landlord chased them out as soon as he came up from his cellar and saw them there, he has zero tolerance of this type of person.
Anyway, they were talking about the amount of money they saved by going to the food bank bragging to each other about how they spent none of their benefits on essentials using all they got for their drugs & booze.
So maybe these centres are just encouraging low life to remain low life, no doubt taking the charity needed by people genuinely in need?

DaveinGermany 12-01-2014 10:58

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Originally Posted by cmonstanley (Post 1090279)
and dave i have plenty of depth

Okay, maybe I could relent on that one, yes C'mon, you certainly do have depth, there is obviously no limit to how low you'll stoop to drag up negatives if it suits your purpose. So Yes I'll admit you've got depth fella, but then again so have festering cesspits.

Margaret Pilkington 12-01-2014 11:14

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1090294)
I wonder if the people using that trust are of the same calibre as some druggies I overheard the other day in my local, the lass behind the bar didn't know that these guys were banned, but by heck the landlord chased them out as soon as he came up from his cellar and saw them there, he has zero tolerance of this type of person.
Anyway, they were talking about the amount of money they saved by going to the food bank bragging to each other about how they spent none of their benefits on essentials using all they got for their drugs & booze.
So maybe these centres are just encouraging low life to remain low life, no doubt taking the charity needed by people genuinely in need?

Less, you are so right.
I was in the post office getting Ma's pension and I had seen a couple of young men outside taking their prescribed methadone(I always thought they hadn't to consume it in front of the pharmacist so that hey couldn't sell it) and one was advising the other to go to Maundy for a bag of food essentials.

Food banks do not encourage people to take responsibility for their financial and budgetary needs.
I can see them being useful in only a narrow set of circumstances.

If anyone watched the program on Channel 4 about a Birmingham street where many of the residents are on benefits....have no intention of working, (but then maybe that program is Tory propaganda - I'm sure our esteemed member from over the border will tell us) and the young couple who we're claiming benefits if 1500 quid a week, could afford fags, booze, and yet still thought they were hard done by.
This is your version of poverty is it C'Mon?
I know what real poverty is. I lived through it growing up....there were no benefits....but we didn't rob from others. We got off our backsides and sorted ourselves out as a matter of pride.

walkinman221 12-01-2014 20:42

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I'm just waiting for the next bout of written diarrhea and a plethora of cut and paste.Your responses are now really getting boring,for gods sake change the record. I don't know if your actually in politics cmon, but maybe you should consider it because they talk a load of pony as well.

cmonstanley 12-01-2014 23:01

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walk on:D


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