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Accyexplorer 12-02-2014 11:33
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1094062)
Dear me, Accyexplorer, you do post some twaddle. As Less said somewhere, you should stick to wandering round empty buildings or at least check the facts.

Network Rail owns all the fixed assets of our rail system and is responsible for their maintenance. Station,lines etc. The bulk of it's income comes from charging the train operators for using its assets. Any state money(up to 30% of its income) it receives is used on the assets.
Yes it is a private company but is has no shares, no shareholders and declares no profits or dividends. Specially set up by the Government( the Labour one) and can be taken over by the Government at any time at no cost.

It owns no rolling stock except the maintenance/repair trains so hasn't made anything out of ticket prices.
No shares, no divi so no Cameron personal profit.

The facts, stick to them.
Read this "twaddle" :)

How franchising scams the taxpayer for billions | Action For Rail

cashman 12-02-2014 11:48
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Good read that, But what does he know?" Professor John Stittle, Senior Lecturer in Accounting?":D

Gordon Booth 12-02-2014 12:09
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1094075)
Network Rail isn't on your list-it's not a franchise .

Accyexplorer 12-02-2014 12:47
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1094079)
Network Rail isn't on your list-it's not a franchise .
Can we agree to disagree G and concentrate on "facts"? :)

Don't expect any help from our government, our governments only provide aid for natural disasters overseas,their not bothered about their own (as we know).
YES,I think we should be looking for aid from other countries (if they have a interest in our welfare).For example, India (which does well from the export of British workers jobs),China which manufactures near enough everything we consume.We know our MPs are only bothered about their salaries,fiddling expenses and doing as little as possible to ensure re-election. FACT :p

Gordon Booth 12-02-2014 13:30
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1094084)
Can we agree to disagree G and concentrate on "facts"? :)
I was concentrating on facts, that's why I was right and you were wrong.

Accyexplorer 12-02-2014 14:05
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Originally Posted by Gordon Booth (Post 1094079)
Network Rail isn't on your list-it's not a franchise .
Is southern rail on the list?
Ok,
Maybe I will go back under my wandering round old buildings rock :rolleyes:

Neil 12-02-2014 15:34
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Originally Posted by DtheP47 (Post 1094059)
The Environment Agency's leaflet makes a bit of sense to me.
Dredging is usually for navigational purposes.

http://www.ourcityourriver.co.uk/dow...%20Leaflet.pdf

Very good leaflet that explains why dredging does not prevent flooding. The assumption being thrown about by the media is that the flooding has been caused because rivers have not been dredged which would appear to be incorrect.
The truth would appear to be that the flood planes have been formed naturally by floods over the centuries and that man was stupid to build on them.

cashman 12-02-2014 16:13
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How was he stupid Neil? He made a fortune outa it.;)

Neil 12-02-2014 16:37
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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1094111)
How was he stupid Neil? He made a fortune outa it.;)
Many hims have I am sure. I said before that planners should not have allowed building houses on flood plains. Those wet footed Southerners could always move up here into the hills with us

Margaret Pilkington 12-02-2014 16:40
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Much of the Nederlands is below sea level but it has been reclaimed.....they have a very robust flood management system.......and where land is prone to flooding and is built on, this is what is required.
Farmers used to dredge the ditches and the river and the risk of flooding was lessened - is that just coincidental then? The EA stopped farmers from looking after the ditches and the river on their own land.......and managed the flood plain badly, taking more notice of wetland wildlife than the humans(by order of the EU).
I have not read the leaflet,for some reason it won't download for me.
Was it a government publication? Only asking. (You know how cynical I am)

Margaret Pilkington 12-02-2014 16:41
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1094114)
Many hims have I am sure. I said before that planners should not have allowed building houses on flood plains. Those wet footed Southerners could always move up here into the hills with us
Don't encourage them Neil.

Less 12-02-2014 17:00
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1094116)
Don't encourage them Neil.
Indeed don't encourage them, it would be the worst thing to happen North of Watford since the displacement of the Scots during the land clearances in the 1800's, worse because instead of sheep they would replace us with Southern wimps that would complain about the horizontal rain we get every few hours and just wouldn't understand why our drainage system means we don't have to go to work in canoes very often.
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Accyexplorer 12-02-2014 17:14
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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1094118)
Indeed don't encourage them, it would be the worst thing to happen North of Watford since the displacement of the Scots during the land clearances in the 1800's, worse because instead of sheep they would replace us with Southern wimps that would complain about the horizontal rain we get every few hours and just wouldn't understand why our drainage system means we don't have to go to work in canoes very often.
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They can afford canoes? :eek:....I struggle saving for a rainy day ;)

Less 12-02-2014 17:24
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Originally Posted by Accyexplorer (Post 1094119)
They can afford canoes? :eek:....I struggle saving for a rainy day ;)
Hmmm, maybe you would benefit from a decent bank account?
Have a word with Neil he can set you up with one in Nigeria.
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Good Morning Sir, I will be your personal teller during your visit,
what kind of deposit would you like to make?

cmonstanley 12-02-2014 18:25
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the flooding is more serious than we think its not only about flood plains now, the pipes in central london are bursting . network rail are in partnership with the private sector thats why they have paid more than £30 billion in dividends;) to shareholders thats why we are skint .


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