Nigeria
 

Nigeria is an important cesspit - why don't the USA get in and give Boko Haram a good slapping? Maybe a good redeployment from Afghanistan?

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Probably because the last time they went into Africa (east) Mogadishu, Somalia, they got a very bitter wake up call despite all their high tech. Added to that there's not a great deal of value to be had there, so why bother?

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They got a good movie out of it though

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Wish the USA would stop poking their noses in where it is not really wanted.

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They always do ... maybe that's what its all about.

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Poor little girls, probably sold into marriage or even something worse.

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Poor kids ... and all in the name of the Prophet ... All Muslims should be hanging their heads in shame or expressing outrage. But I for one ain't holding my breath.

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Probably already happened considering the degenerates who've taken them.

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Disgusting.
The total failure and lack of interest from the Nigerian government is the worst aspect. Good luck Jonathan must be to busy counting his millions.

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Maybe if it was school boys rather than girls there would be more interest. It doesn't bear thinking about what might have happened to them. It must be terrible for their families.

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Probably worse for the girls.
:(

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From a piece on TV this morning which showed a young man speaking his mind, I think questions are starting to be asked by the Nigerian people about corruption in high places. He asked where the billons of dollars (I think he said $22 million) the USA gave Nigeria a few years ago which was supposed to specifically be spent on bringing the Boko Haram gangs to book.

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It probably got spent on a new jet and fleet of limo's.

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Having been there a few times, happiness is landing gear up at Lagos:) I can assure you that Goodluck Johnson does not have a new jet, heck $22 mil will only buy a old biz jet. Most likely a Swiss or Grand Cayman bank account

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I've just visited the website of the World Bank and seen the mind boggling sums Nigeria receives per anum and over a period of time, Billions of Dollars are not peanuts - here's the latest published sum = $1,915,820,000. :

Net official development assistance and official aid received (current US$) | Data | Table

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Another link of interest:



Boko Haram formed amid Nigerian government corruption - World - CBC News

Never came across "kleptocracy" before. Quite an apt term. Seems to describe all governments to a certain degree.

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The article throws up some interesting ideas.
The idea that the education of women in a westernised education system is to add to governmental corruption.....it is a different perspective I suppose.

Al Qaeda are against the education of girls. Educated girls become educated women. Women who want to be in control of their own destiny. This does not fill Al Qaeda with joy. They want their women to be uneducated, so that they are easier to control.....less of a problem. Isn't that why they shot the 15 year old girl in the head.....the girl who agitated for education for all girls in her own country?
Boko Haram are supposed to be allied to Al Qaeda, and will follow their lead.
The fact that these men have threatened to sell these girls as slaves show how little they think of women.
Islam is supposed to revere women.....not sell them as slaves.

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I think it depends on who's interpreting the words of the Koran rather than the original meaning. Twisting the text to control the female population seems common place. I seem to remember reading that men and women ' are as equal as two teeth on a comb' is in the Koran somewhere. Doesn't seem to be acknowledged much in a lot of Islamic countries around the world.

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A lot of these militant fundamentalist groups follow the Hadith. The Hadith is supposed to be the sayings of the prophet , but they were not written down until 300 years after his death......so who knows what corruptions happened over those three centuries.

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It would be good to hear some condemnation of this act from Muslims around the globe.
When they stay silent it is assumed(however wrong this may be) that they condone this behaviour.

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muslims have spoken out globaly on many occassions

when it suits them especially when a cartoon of mohamhead gets published or an article gets published criticising islam but no so much when a woman is about to be stoned to death or when young girls get executed or abducted

just saying like ;)

the only islamic leader iv ever heard speaking out publicly and loudly had hooks for hands and i just wanted that one to shut teh hell up and sod off because he wasnt doing anyone any favours especially muslims

it would be nice to see a smuch effort put into condeming the actions of brutilizing women as is put into objecting to a poxy drawing is what im trying to say

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I agree Accyman!

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I'm still not holding my breath ... of course, many muslims, that would be the females:rolleyes:, are probably not allowed an opinion. I live in a province facing a general election; two of the major party leaders are women. One is openly gay. The other is a single mother. I like living in a country where that is not only possible, but is not even an issue. It's time Islam got in touch with the twenty-first century. Come to think of it, they could start with the tenth-century, and work up from there.

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From my working life I know that muslim men distort the information given to muslim women.
I came into contact with many women who spoke not one word of English....and understood very few words of English.
On many occasions we had to get interpreters in to explain things to these women.
Some of the Asian women doctors would tell us that what the husbands had told their wife was far different from what we wanted to be conveyed to her.

I worked with some muslim women who were very westernised and they would confirm that the menfolk did not want their women to be corrupted by western ideas.
Yet the men could go into town and have some westernised 'fun' and this was seen to be alright.

There is an outcry in the world about this act of barbarism, yet the muslim mouths stay firmly shut. When you say nothing...you condone the act.

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Every time I see news footage of the Boko Haram leader ranting in front of his barbarians and waving his gun around, it reminds me straight away of that deranged scumbag in London just after he'd murdered Lee Rigby. High as a kite and declaring to the world that this was God's will. A psychiatrist would have a field day with these nutters.

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They already have, but only the bits they want, telephones, Ipads, televisions, cars, washing machines, electricity, and all the other every day conveniences, especially our welfare system.

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Another "terrorist group" :rolleyes: .... Don't you think it's a bit hypocritical the US Regime saying anyone is a terrorist group?
The US Regime itself is (probably the biggest) "terrorist group" and has been since about 1945.

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So what would you call Boko Haram then?

They aren't exactly a social club.

They have committed a barbaric attack against defenceless schoolgirls(and threatened to sell them into sexual slavery - that is really compassionate isn't it?)......all because they do not want girls to be educated...because educated women think for themselves....are less likely to be subjected to the constraints applied to them by men.

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Obviously their a "terrorist group" M, I'm just saying the phrase about a kettle and pot springs to mind.
Wherever these poor girls are I feel/fear for them (just thought i'd get that in).

It's doesn't help when the media find 'celebrities' or scameron and his expense fiddlers more news worthy, It's been going on for years in Nigeria their often returned beaten and pregnant :(

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The fact that it has been going on for years is all the more reason for it to be dealt with NOW.

The fact that the media choose to print other stories is not the fault of these girls and not a reason why it should be ignored or cast aside.

We buy the papers, watch TV, choose to use the internet and other media sources. So perhaps all of us are to blame to some degree. The media sell us what we will buy..simple as. It all comes down to money

That there is not an outcry from muslims to complain about this hateful event is not a surprise....just very predictable.

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Indeed ... it's "only the bits they want" ... they are ... not all, but way too many ... the humourless, brutal offspring of a dysfunctional religion and culture playing with toys that are the products of a "Western" culture they claim to despise, toys their culture could never have developed. If it were not for their oil, they would still be sitting around camel dung fires and beating their women. Now they sit in front of their big screens, play with their PS 4s, and their smart phones ... Oh, and beat their women ... silly me, I almost forgot that one.

And they still have this hate on for Jews. If the Muslims had retained control of what is now Israel, it would still be a poverty ridden wasteland. And yet there are those in the West who support Hammas:rolleyes: A dirty Arab is picturesque; a dirty Jew is still a dirty Jew. And yet, of the approximately 850 Nobel Prizes awarded, around 20% have been won by Jews. And Muslims ... 10 in total. Six of these were Peace Prizes ... the "Miss Congeniality" award.

And you may have inferred I don't respect Islam ... maybe it's because of some of the things that go on in the Islamic world: Punishing women for the "crime" of being raped, FGM, kidnapping young girls probably raping them, and threatening to sell them into slavery.

Ok ... end of rant.

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It's sad it's taken so long for anyone to step in.
Regarding this situation (kidnapping) Nigeria should have asked for help years ago and those countries who are capable of stepping up should of done so :(

No offence to our members across the pond but, when America says a country is a "terrorist country" they (usually) mean a country that means them (the USA) harm, but is Nigeria a "terrorist country"? I think not, as "terrorist" can have different definitions.
Nigeria's pace of development is very slow, that is reflected in the (disgraceful) way it treats women.
In my half bakes eyes, the way it treats it's women is also a form of "terrorism".
But terrorism is 'a tactic', "a tactic" used by 'all states', but its nothing more than the use of violence to reach political ends and I think Nigeria is no more a "terrorist country" than say England or the USA :rolleyes:

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Just watching the news on ITV tonight and new footage of some of the kidnapped girls shows them clad in Islamic garb. Apparently, they've all converted to Islam. The girls look terrified. I hope these monsters are caught and dealt with and, hopefully, have the cr@p kicked out of them before 'disappearing' forever.

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I saw that footage too and agree with you. There's no wonder when they saw their school being demolished and if they've also seen all those villages razed to the ground and heard of people being killed by that mindless gang then there's no wonder they were terrified.

BTW, from the Nigerian people who were protesting in the streets, I believe there was a mixture of both christians and muslim parents.

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If this was 300 American girls, WW3 would have broken out by now!

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A few days ago a British reporter showed the first scenes to reach our TV sets of villages and a small town razed to the ground by the Bocum terrorists.

Senior journalist John Simpson then managed to inveigle a lift to one such place with the governor of the region.arrange

Simpson's short film didn't show much, except that the governor could show a clean pair of heels and managed to run the gauntlet of the angry locals reaching the safety of his car before John Simpson did.

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Probably would, maybe the Americans value their women a little bit more than the Nigerians value theirs?
:idunno:

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Nail on the head,women have NO or Little value in some places.

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Just heard, the U.K. is sending Gary Glitter to help look fer em.

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I got told it was a task force with Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris and Dave Lee Travis as well.:D