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Restless 15-07-2014 07:05

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Sad story in local news that someone in church has been poisoning swans. Such disgusting people.

Margaret Pilkington 15-07-2014 07:10

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Rob someone posted about this on here on Sunday night.

I hope they catch whoever has done this despicable act and do the same to them.
I cannot understand why anyone would want to harm these majestic birds.

Restless 15-07-2014 07:17

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I did a search first and never came up with anything.

I don't understand it either. And the cowardly act of feeding them poison. I think of myself feeding them and the satisfaction the act brings. They are all too willing to trust this magically appearing food for their little ones. Annoys the crap out of me.

Margaret Pilkington 15-07-2014 07:20

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Me too Rob. I am not a violent person, but this kind of act makes me want to do horrible things to the perpetrators.

cashman 15-07-2014 07:20

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Sadly its the state of society these days.:mad:

Less 15-07-2014 07:21

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1110628)
Rob someone posted about this on here on Sunday night.

I hope they catch whoever has done this despicable act and do the same to them.
I cannot understand why anyone would want to harm these majestic birds.

Why do some people harm dogs, cats all types of animals including human ones?

Strange to think they may get some sort of pleasure from it.

:confused:

maxthecollie 15-07-2014 07:48

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Originally Posted by Restless (Post 1110630)
I did a search first and never came up with anything.

I don't understand it either. And the cowardly act of feeding them poison. I think of myself feeding them and the satisfaction the act brings. They are all too willing to trust this magically appearing food for their little ones. Annoys the crap out of me.

Look on today in pictures Rob.

Lucysgirl 15-07-2014 08:00

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I hope the newspaper follows up on this story as we need to know whether the bread that the RSPCA officer took away for testing caused the swans deaths or whether there's something toxic in the water, such as a foreign species of weed.

maxthecollie 15-07-2014 08:26

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According to the Evening Telegraph the swans had to be put to sleep.

gpick24 15-07-2014 08:54

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There were a lot of people upset at one of the swans a few weeks back when it was attacking the geese further down the canal. Even now when I go down that way, the geese are very rarely in the water, I can`t help thinking this is some sick persons idea of retribution.

westendlass 15-07-2014 09:36

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1110636)
Why do some people harm dogs, cats all types of animals including human ones?

Strange to think they may get some sort of pleasure from it.

:confused:

Its because they are inadequates Less. No normal person would even dream of doing something like that. Makes you wonder how the lunatics would treat their own kids. Its so sad that these beautiful birds suffered in such a way, the scumbags want tying in a plastic bag and throwing in to the canal with a few bricks lobbed on top.

Margaret Pilkington 15-07-2014 10:26

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Originally Posted by westendlass (Post 1110646)
the scumbags want tying in a plastic bag and throwing in to the canal with a few bricks lobbed on top.


That is far too good for them.
I would make them eat poisoned bread.

Neil 15-07-2014 11:26

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1110645)
There were a lot of people upset at one of the swans a few weeks back when it was attacking the geese further down the canal. Even now when I go down that way, the geese are very rarely in the water, I can`t help thinking this is some sick persons idea of retribution.

That swan needed a medal if they were Canada Geese.
Swans can be nasty but thats no excuse for killing them. I was cycling on the canal the other week and a family of swans were on the towpath and showed no sign of moving as I approached. No way I was ploughing through them so made a 5 minute detour on the road and back on the towpath at the next bridge.

gpick24 15-07-2014 11:38

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You don`t seriously think I was excusing this do you?
Lots of Canada geese down there, but british geese that were attacked when I saw.

Neil 15-07-2014 15:07

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British geese attacked by British swans is ok, if they had been Canada geese the swans would have been arrested for racially motivated attacks.
I wonder what the geese did to upset the swans, I would guess they got to close you the cygnets.

No I didn't think you were excusing anything.

US Angel 15-07-2014 15:15

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how cruel some people are

gpick24 15-07-2014 15:29

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1110693)
British geese attacked by British swans is ok, if they had been Canada geese the swans would have been arrested for racially motivated attacks.
I wonder what the geese did to upset the swans, I would guess they got to close you the cygnets.

It was attacking the goslings more than anything, chased the geese away then went for the babies. It had been happening all day from what I was told at the time. (post #8162 of the Today in pics thread (page 545)). Rarely seen the geese in the water since.
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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1110693)
No I didn't think you were excusing anything.

:)

Eric 15-07-2014 16:48

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1110693)
if they had been Canada geese the swans would have been arrested for racially motivated attacks.

Never thought of us as a "race.":confused: And Canadians are a friendly bunch of folks There's even a group of Canadians down in London, filling in for your military ... Check out whose guarding the Palace this week.

But it's sad to see the helpless and trusting being victims of amoral assholes.:mad:

Neil 15-07-2014 19:28

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Canadians are general good folk, just take your geese home please :p

Less 16-07-2014 06:06

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Originally Posted by Eric (Post 1110701)
Never thought of us as a "race.":confused: And Canadians are a friendly bunch of folks There's even a group of Canadians down in London, filling in for your military ... Check out whose guarding the Palace this week.

But it's sad to see the helpless and trusting being victims of amoral assholes.:mad:

With so much land per person I'm amazed you ever have the chance to get together and breed this so called race. Do you have special meeting places where you all get together on occasions just to ensure the race continues?

Are these rituals anything like the breeding habits of the Moose?
http://6dollarshirts.com/images/D/moose-mating.jpg

Big Dave 16-07-2014 11:52

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Now in the national papers this morning along with large picture of dying bird

Less 16-07-2014 17:39

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Originally Posted by Big Dave (Post 1110779)
Now in the national papers this morning along with large picture of dying bird

Bloody hell don't you just hate it when newspaper cram what they think is edificational? Swan lake another repeat.:mad:

Eric 17-07-2014 14:10

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1110763)
With so much land per person I'm amazed you ever have the chance to get together and breed this so called race. Do you have special meeting places where you all get together on occasions just to ensure the race continues?

Are these rituals anything like the breeding habits of the Moose?
http://6dollarshirts.com/images/D/moose-mating.jpg

Whatever those moose are doing, they sure ain't breeding.;)

mobertol 18-07-2014 14:58

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There is a lot of information on this site of The Swan Sanctuary - in the FAQ's section the following advice is given:

"There's a swan's nest in a really vulnerable location - what can be done?

If the nest is vulnerable to interference from human factors, such as on a tow-path or the bank of a pond where people walk their dogs, then you should contact your local council and ask them to erect protective fencing around the nest. If the nest is vulnerable to natural events such as high tides & floodwater then it should be left alone so that the swans can learn from the experience - if a young couple lose a nest under these circumstances then they will learn not to build a nest so low down the next year. Sad as it is, they have to be allowed to learn from natural experiences which is one reason why it is illegal to interfere with a swan's nest in any way."

I wonder if the nesting site in this case had been protected in any way - seems the council have some responsability for their protection....I expect that, like me, most people don't know this.

Lots more information on this site including the original Swan Law of Edward IV in 1482 which is still upheld to this day.

http://www.theswansanctuary.org.uk/index.php

gpick24 18-07-2014 20:14

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There`s a new family of swans now taken over the territory and moved into the nest. Hope these get left alone.
Seems Neil may have got his wish, all the Canada Geese seem to have disappeared from the area, I haven`t seen any all week. :idunno:

kestrelx 23-07-2014 13:58

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 1110693)
British geese attacked by British swans is ok, if they had been Canada geese the swans would have been arrested for racially motivated attacks.
I wonder what the geese did to upset the swans, I would guess they got to close you the cygnets.

No I didn't think you were excusing anything.

All mute swans will attack other waterbirds in the breeding season - some when they only have territory and are building the nest - some are worse than others (as with people) and will not tolerate other waterbirds - one I recall had a thing for a white mallard which it repeatedly attacked some will even attack people.

This is natural behavour and no excuse for any sicko to poison swans.

Neil 23-07-2014 18:24

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Originally Posted by gpick24 (Post 1110913)
There`s a new family of swans now taken over the territory and moved into the nest. Hope these get left alone.
Seems Neil may have got his wish, all the Canada Geese seem to have disappeared from the area, I haven`t seen any all week. :idunno:


I arranged for them to be deported back to Canada so our English swans can enjoy their English canal ;)

Gremlin 23-07-2014 20:01

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Originally Posted by mobertol (Post 1110896)
There is a lot of information on this site of The Swan Sanctuary - in the FAQ's section the following advice is given:

"There's a swan's nest in a really vulnerable location - what can be done?

If the nest is vulnerable to interference from human factors, such as on a tow-path or the bank of a pond where people walk their dogs, then you should contact your local council and ask them to erect protective fencing around the nest. If the nest is vulnerable to natural events such as high tides & floodwater then it should be left alone so that the swans can learn from the experience - if a young couple lose a nest under these circumstances then they will learn not to build a nest so low down the next year. Sad as it is, they have to be allowed to learn from natural experiences which is one reason why it is illegal to interfere with a swan's nest in any way."

I wonder if the nesting site in this case had been protected in any way - seems the council have some responsability for their protection....I expect that, like me, most people don't know this.

Lots more information on this site including the original Swan Law of Edward IV in 1482 which is still upheld to this day.

The Swan Sanctuary, Shepperton (formerly Egham), UK

The local council wont even erect a fence round an open sewer here never mind a swans nest.
I have not been keeping up with this thread, I find it too upsetting thinking about the poor creatures.

accyman 24-07-2014 03:04

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isnt there a rule that only the queen can eat swan or is that corgis ?

if there is such a rule can we eat canadian swans if they come here looking for trouble or to back up the canadian geese or does our queen get didbs on them also through her ties to canada

ps:

to be a bit serious i think the queen only been allowed to eat swan is something to do with them been under her potection i hardly think she eats swan and besides shes way too old to catch one

Studio25 24-07-2014 10:09

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As far as I'm aware, the queen owns all the swans in the UK. She even employs someone to look after the ones on the Thames.

Incidentally, she also owns all the whales and sturgeon in British waters or on British soil.

In reality, she is unlikely to get upset about someone poisoning her Accrington swans: She declared "no interest" in a monster sturgeon caught a few years ago.

Neil 24-07-2014 12:18

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Originally Posted by accyman (Post 1111266)
isnt there a rule that only the queen can eat swan or is that corgis ?

I am sure Corgis would eat swan if fed to them. Most dogs will eat any meat.

kestrelx 29-07-2014 16:18

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Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1111281)
As far as I'm aware, the queen owns all the swans in the UK. She even employs someone to look after the ones on the Thames.

Incidentally, she also owns all the whales and sturgeon in British waters or on British soil.

In reality, she is unlikely to get upset about someone poisoning her Accrington swans: She declared "no interest" in a monster sturgeon caught a few years ago.

Swans get killed and maimed all over the country - write to the RSPCA and ask for statistics you may be shocked? One in a park near me had it's wing ripped off by a dog - though I hear the swan is still alive in a sanctuary. Dog attacks are regular all over the place.

Barrie Yates 29-07-2014 18:15

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Studio25 (Post 1111281)
As far as I'm aware, the queen owns all the swans in the UK. She even employs someone to look after the ones on the Thames.

Incidentally, she also owns all the whales and sturgeon in British waters or on British soil.

In reality, she is unlikely to get upset about someone poisoning her Accrington swans: She declared "no interest" in a monster sturgeon caught a few years ago.

The swans on the Thames are owned by the Queen and the Vintners Company, the ownership is noted and the swans identified during "Swan Upping" which is done sometime around now. Swans on private land belong to the owners of that land.


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