Re: M&S Accrington
 

i want to see the smackheads ,drunks and anti social behaviour sorted of which none have anything to do with the 70's

perhaps if people felt safe going into town or felt thattheir children wouldnt be exposed to vile behaviour and loudly shouted vile language they might start going into town again

if every time you went to asda you were asked for spare change , a spare fag , had people urinating in the frozen food section or people screaming abuse at each other you would go shop at tesco

people go elsewhere not because they want a 70's retro feel they go elsewhere because elsewhere has a better eviroment

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Come along now young Kenneth, get thysen involved elsewhere & maybe the chuckles will come back. :)

Re: M&S Accrington
 

"shopping habits have changed"...the same old tired cliches trotted out. Do me a favour, Ken, get in your car and drive ten miles south to Bury and tell me why shopping habits haven't changed there?

"a concrete monstrosity"...I assume you're talking about the umbrella market? Looking it at purely from an architectural point of view, it was actually a masterpiece of Modernist Architecture (take a look at aerial shots of the roof and see how well-designed it is) and is mentioned in a couple of books on the subject. Whatever, it's certainly better than the cheap, toytown, mock-Victoriana "pavillions" that took its place.

"that many people were glad to see the back of"...funny that, because this old "monstrosity" was invariably busy with shoppers on market days, unlike its replacement which is semi-deserted most of the time. So where have all these people who were glad to see the back of it gone?

Re: M&S Accrington
 

They have got on the bus to Bury where the market is a draw for shoppers.
They get on the bus to Manchester where the variety and cosmopolitan feel of the city draws in people from all over the place...and yes, I do know that Accrington cannot compete with Manchester.......but we could be a whole lot better than we currently are. It saddens me that people who could make a difference go around not recognising the negatives...... berates us who do see the downsides and cannot talk the town up because we see it as dishonest

Re: M&S Accrington
 

I've been going to Accy Asda every week for over a decade now and have never experienced anything like that. Have I just been very lucky?

Every town has its drunks and anyone who pretends that Accy is somehow awash with them compared to the likes of Blackburn, Preston or the mighty Bury really does need to open their eyes.

I'm sorry that you feel that way about the town centre but either I must be very lucky again or I have managed to miss the armies of smack heads patrolling the streets looking for someone to intimidate every week.

I just do not see this terrible town with nothing going for it. Perhaps my shopping standards are too low.

Re: M&S Accrington
 

No Ken its yer I.Q, i'm thinking,not yer shopping standards.:rolleyes:

Re: M&S Accrington
 

read it propperly i didnt say asda had them problems i said IF asda had them problems

preston and blackburn may have the odd lout and homeless person begging for change but what neither have is a maundy grange smack in the town or city center encouraging the dreggs to hang about town center

blackburn and preston also have a police presence keeping or at least trying to keep any problem people in check

i go to preston and blackburn quite a lot and can say that in the main areas where shoppers shop i have never had any problems what so ever.If you go to the outskirts of blackburn to where certain pubs are you will start to experience the dreggs but they are confined to that area

preston and blackburn authorities tackle problems HBC stick their heads up their arses and tell everyone they are imagining things

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Accrington town centre really has become the most miserable and depressing place. Shopping there isn't what you would call a pleasurable experience. The place has been going down hill for years due to one bad decision after another. The demolition of the old market and cutting in half of the bus station being fine examples of stupidity. The horrible, scruffy excuse for a market that stands there now is just an eyesore. Seems like there are more pigeons than shoppers on Broadway these days.

Re: M&S Accrington
 

try wearing a blindfold and earplugs westendlass it works wonders for HBC and the traffic wardens

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Its no good trying to tell Ken Moss what yeh said accyman, He is never wrong.:rolleyes:

Re: M&S Accrington
 

I'm fed up hearing the same old nonsense about the old market, it was an ugly concrete mess that would have cost a fortune to maintain and I don't believe it would be busy now if it still stood.

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Quite possibly not, Maundys crowd has been the greatest contributor in my view, and virtually a complete lack of police presence or action.

Re: M&S Accrington
 

I agree, both the Council and Police do nothing about it. They need to work together and address the problem

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Its like talking to the wall, telling em that neil, i know first hand.

Re: M&S Accrington
 

councilors cant work with each other so how can they be expected to work with anyone else..

i disagree with your comment about the old market though

before they tore it down there was many family buisness's established and new yet the alternative accomodation for the stalls only catered for about %20 of the stalls forcing the rest to either go unemployed until the new market was finished or give up and go work elsewhere

many of those family buisness's would still be operating today if they hadnt been forced out of buissness by the council

preston market is an old ugly market but they left it alone and it continues to have a vibrant trade and an excellent flea market like what accy used to have before the council tore it down

the council basically screwed over local traders to accomodate the likes of game , wilkinsons etc that could have easily opened up in the arndale as it was half empty at the time

Accrington is a great example of what happens when you let underqualified people make big decisions.Our one way system was designed by a bloke who had no driving licence and i doubt any councilor over the past 20 years has a degree in town and city planning or finance

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Put the market back on broadway and incorporate it with the empty m & s.

Re: M&S Accrington
 

not much reason to go to accy centre now no m& s.

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Nothing like this happens in Accrington Town Centre so the Observer have clearly got the wrong town.

WATCH: The shocking moments an 'out of control' man launched an attack on a care worker at Accrington's Market Hall were caught on CCTV - Accrington Observer

Re: M&S Accrington
 

Don't worry dave ,Ken will have a good line in bullshine to explain this aberration.:rolleyes:

Re: M&S Accrington
 

things like this may happen in accrington but they are no different to things that happen in any other town..

does that sound more familiar ?

im sure the poor sod with his face stitched up will feel a lot better knowing that incidents like this happen in other towns