"Poo dunnit"
 

Most of us are aware of the dog fouling epidemic that's swooped across the country,from the canal side to the countryside,we've all stood dog mess at one time or another.
While some councils are getting rid of dog mess bins (due to costs),HBC (alongside 100ish new bins in the past year) are offering residents £50 in a new campaign for information leading to the conviction (or a fixed penalty) of 'irresponsible' dog owners who refuse to clean up their pets mess and spoil our local parks etc.
Time to get clicking folks,there's good money to be made here :D

For more info:-

Hyndburn Labour Group: HBC: Poo Dunnit? £50 dog fouling reward scheme

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They also have these signs on the actual boxes as well, I noticed that it did state that to claim the reward for dropping your neighbour in the sh..ocking stuff it says you have to be able to prove it was them (or rather, their dog). I wonder what they consider to be proof? A photo of the dog taking a dump? (That would look good in today in pictures wouldn't it), taking the turd as evidence around to the Council Offices? Nah, this isn't a new hobby that appeals to me I think I'll give it a miss.🐩

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I often "borrow " a dog to walk. I go a two mile round trip and only pass two doggie bins both quite close to each other near the cemetery on Dill Hall Lane. Rightly or wrongly I often drop the doggie bag ( with contents ) into litter bins, if this is wrong then I am sorry , I do clean up as we go but I do not wish to carry this package any further than I need.

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Sounds rather police state to me, report your neighbour and receive a reward.
What's next, people who walk on the cracks in the pavement?

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We'd all have to plead guilty to that one given that the condition of pavements obviously has a lower priority than catching the desecrators of grass verges.
One observation I have made is that there seem to be more doggie deposits around the houses where the owners idea of exercising their pooch is to go to the front door in slippers and nightie, throw the dog onto the street then strike up a fag whilst awaiting the next deposit to be laid at their neighbours doorstep. As with so many other things in life, the majority of dog owners are responsible, take their animals for good long walks, use the facilities provided then take the dog safely home again. It is always a minority that ruin things for everyone else.

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We see a lot of people out with their dogs. Some are on their mobile phones, miles in front of their dogs, so how do they know what their dogs are doing? We walk with Max in front of us so we can watch him.

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while we had Normie (passed away) we made sure to pick up his mess in the litter bags.
Even had a MP stop me and question what I was doing and why?
1. IT WAS Post Policy
2. It as the right thing to do

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I have on a couple of occasions seen people allow their dogs to do the 'necessary' and if they show no sign of picking up......I offer them a poo bag......with a comment something like...'Isn't it a nuisance when they need to 'go' more than once?'
This usually has the appropriate effect, but without getting into a 'mind your own effing business' conversation.

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A diplomat as usual is what you is.

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One word, "Stasi".

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Quite a few similar organisations DinG - even 1984

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I don't agree with Hyndburns dog bin policy. I think it is a gimmick to make Councillors and/or the Council look good. Instead they should just be putting in general use bins. This might help reduce litter. The only reason dog bins smell is because they have a lid on them. Almost every litter bin you see on a street post will have dog bags put in them because if you are carrying one you look for the nearest bin to use. Dog waste used to be classified as hazardous and had to be treated differently than general waste. Several years ago it was declassified and many Councils started using multi use bins. Instead of hundreds of dog only bins we would have 100's extra litter bins in Hyndburn. Much better use of our Council tax money

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If dog walkers should pick up after their pets, why do horse riders not clear up after their horses have crapped on roads, footpaths and pavements?

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Sadly, I am old enough to remember when folk used to come out of their houses with a shovel to pick up the deposit from the milk chaps horse, the rag chaps horse and the coal mans horse...it was a valued commodity as many folk had allotments and grew their own veg.
You don't see much horse 'feathers' now....unless you live on a route favoured by the horsey set.

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I too remember those days Margaret, our road and the footpath (ginnel ?) leading to an adjacent road is a favourite route for the horsey set - a footpath just wide enough for two people to walk through is often covered in horse droppings.
On TV the other day was a young blind lady that had a small pony as a guide instead of a dog - she fitted a bin liner at the rear end of the pony so that any droppings were collected in the bag.

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I called in the council offices on Ormerod Street today to get some free poo bags. The are really thin and see through.We will not be using them. We will stick to the paid for ones from the tourist information centre in the town hall.

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I use nappy sacks.

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I never set off with fewer than a dozen poo bags. One of my boys needs at least five poos over his three-mile walk.

The other (the one in my avatar) only goes once, but he likes his privacy and runs to the opposite end of the field. Luckily he has to then turn around ten times before he starts, so we do have time to get over to him and pick it up before it's lost in the long grass.

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This is because you are a responsible owner, and go out prepared and ready.
Those who do not pick up after their dogs go out without any intent on cleaning up the dog mess...but it is far safer for them to think that you think they have run out of bags and the offer of a poo bag has never been refused.
I suppose that I have this vain hope that it will instil some feeling of responsibility in these people...but I won't hold my breath.

We used to have a dog who always looked embarrassed if you watched him doing the necessary.......strange isn't it?

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I actually support this council initiative (very rare for me).
As mentioned above,sadly,a few spoil it for the rest.
Some (irresponsible) folk appear to think that it is perfectly acceptable to leave dogs... where other folk can stand in it (footpaths) or worse in places that children could potentially get it on their hands while playing (parks).
I seen folk actually picking up other folks dog mess up :eek:...

....not something I'd be over keen on doing myself although it has been known for me to pick other folks rubbish/litter up when I go on my wanders.

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Dog poo is dangerous in that it can cause potential diseases that can cause blindness and even be fatal. Horse poo doesn't. Horse poop is mostly digested vegetation.

Also, horse poop is much easier to see.

It annoys me (as an owner of two dogs!) to see folk not picking up after their dogs, however it equally annoys me that where I walk my dogs, there's one bin in sight after I run a three and a half mile stretch around a popular walking area. I don't not pick up nor do I leave bags of poo lying around, I've managed to coax my dogs to mostly poop before we get to the binless area.

But it seems a lot of people do-they'll pick up then hang it on a tree or put it on a wall.. Surely the council can agree that the price of a few bins will be less than paying workers to 'police' the area and clear away the mess.

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Many areas have litter bins that you can put doggie bags into.....and are labelled to that effect.

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Perhaps with this new scheme the council will dish out hefty fines to offenders then we could have a doggy bin every 10feet,maybe even the odd horse muck bin ;)

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It doesn't need doggy bins...allowing ordinary litter bins to be used for this purpose would be far better and if other councils can do it then why not ours.
I cannot understand why someone would pick up doggy do's and hang them in a tree...where is the mentality in that?

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I know people who hang doggy doo bags on trees to remind them when they walk back to pick it up and bin it.

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I left mine at the side of the path on one walk (a long route in Gt Harwood with just one bin at the very start), with the intention of collecting it on the way back. It was in a bright pink nappy bag - couldn't miss it.

Someone else had tidied it up by the time I returned. :eek:

(When I say "mine" I mean "my dog's".)

Incidentally, I got some clear video on the dashcam of someone letting their dog take a dump while I was driving under the railway bridge on Blackburn Road.

Doesn't meet the criteria for getting a reward, though. The camera didn't show the owner walking away without scooping. I only saw that in my mirror as the lights had changed to green.

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Just had a read of the actual criteria. It's not going to work, as there's no anonymity for the "witness".

• Minimum of three clear photos of the act of dumping, dog's departure, picture of uncollected poo. (Owner doesn't have to be present.)
• Informant must establish dog owner's address
• Dog owner just needs to say "don't know what you're talking about" to the dog warden, or refuse to pay, and the informant would then need to appear in court as a witness.

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So why don't they pick it off the tree then?
As I said it would be much more effective for dog mess to be put into ordinary litter bins.

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There are quite a few folk who seem unwilling to use ordinary litter bins for their rubbish,perhaps this reward scheme could be extended to this issue also?

Putting dog poo in normal bins means it will probably end up in the landfill for "tip rats" like me to dig up in forthcoming years :eek:

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At least it is biodegradable.....unlike the plastic bags it is in.

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If you think about it, dumping dog turds in ordinary bins for the collector to dispense with?

Not very good, in fact having dedicated people risking life & health just for the selfish joy of having a dog?

Maybe it's time we had a mass cull of this vermin?

Well of course not, but maybe, just maybe, we should have dog owners being made to be responsible for their pooch?

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Less, if you go to Haslingden, or Bury.....the bins are all marked with signs that say dog waste can be disposed in them......so they must have considered the health risks to their operatives.
What about the disposal of human waste in household bins? Is that any different?
Babies nappies and stoma bags are disposed of in this manner.
Refuse operatives are all provided with PPE.....and they do not actually handle the waste from the bins.....and who do you think empties the dog waste bins?

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I don't believe it!
Collecting empty bottles from tips was bad enough. :eek:

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The dog poo bags from H.B.C. are biodegradable.

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I wasn't referring to those bags, but to the bags that ordinary litter is put into.
I don't think they are biodegradable.
The bags from the Town Hall are excellent value for money and are superior to any others we used.

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I once considered putting a sign on my bin requesting dog walkers not to use it for their dog droppings. Instead, I just listen out for the truck and drag the bin back into the garden as soon as it's empty.

A couple of years ago someone had tossed their little nappy bag of poo into it. Better than sticking it on my tree, I suppose, but then it ends up festering for a fortnight and potentially bursting as other refuse is put on top of it.

Oh, and there's a proper dog waste bin 50 yards from where I leave my refuse bin on collection day...

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I thought I had heard all of the "dunnisms" over the years.. Ones like "dunn-it-in-your-pants" and "did you get dunn?" but nope... Now I have pooboxes insulting me :D

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It's your dog and your dog's poo.
You should have to take it home with you and tip it in the loo or put it in your bin so you can have the smell on a hot sunny day.
Why should we have to have poo bins overflowing and stinking. Think of the poor devils who have to empty them and the cost to the council!
Why should we have trees decorated with poo bags?
It's your dog so it's your poo. Take it home!

Don't get me wrong. I'm a dog lover, we've had them all our married lives and I'd love one now. But picking up hot dog poo and walking around with a bag of it- that's one of the things which puts me off the idea! Besides which I'm too knackered to give a dog a proper walk.

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think of the benefits in winter though

free pocket warmer

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Just remember to keep your mints in the other pocket.:D

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Until you forget it's in there and thrust your hand in hoping for loose change or a hanky.

A few weeks ago I picked up after my dog but there were no bins between there and the car, so I just chucked it on the dashboard to dispose of at home.

I don't use the car if I can avoid it. Only remembered it was there three days later... :(

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reminds me of this time my friend had been eating a kit-kat and he bent down to tie his shoelaces as he started walking again He realised he had chocolate on his fingers and he licked them......

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Don't let it run down the air vents

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Ewwwwww!

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Sorry to resurrect an old thread but I had to share what happened to me and Mr Sunflower earlier!

We were walking our two dogs and he had just picked up after one of them, approaching the bin we saw about five children aged from about 5 to 10 ish, rummaging in it, getting out bags of poo and throwing them at one another! As we got closer one of them said 'scuse me can we have your poo we're playing a game!

What the chuff?!

Of course we said no and carried it home but honestly what on earth. When we walked back the same way they had gone but there were loads of half splattered half full poo bags dotted around the floor. I guess It's not always dog owners to blame for the mess.

Also on another note, someone said to take the poo home and put it down your own toilet-isn't it illegal or at least ill-advised to put any waste other than human, down the toilet? Something to do with our sewage system not being designed to cope with any poo other than that of our species?

I could be wrong but I am sure I have heard that somewhere.

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Worrying about stuff like this may be an indication you have too much free time on your hands.;) I'm sure there's more important shiite to worry about.:D

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Did you not tell the kids about the dangers involved in dog poo?
It's not something to be playing a game with.

I hate carrying my dogs poo - it's just too stinky lol

It helps to walk it in parks where there are bins, but I still see some leaving it - usually either te type that have the rough dogs that they want to fight with or kids who just won't pick it up. Most others are considerate and will pick it up.

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if a kid has the mentality that a good idea is to pay with dog turds then id put that down to thinning of the herd and let them get on with it..

lets face it unless space travel is going to revolve around methane they aint going to be rocket scientists

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There are times when I question the works of Charles Darwin

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Darwin got it spot-on, it's other "intellectuals" who are causing the problem. By making the world safe for people who would otherwise end up as a smoking, carbonised crisp before reaching puberty, they are artificially preventing survival of the fittest.

To prove my point, this is the not-so-fine print on the bag of cat litter I use for my little feline.

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we live in a world where bags of nuts come with a warning that the packet may contain nuts

if you have a nut allergy and eat from a packet labeled KP nuts your either dim or suicidal

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Reminds me of a day out with my late Grandad (god rest him) when I was but a snip of a lad....

After a day out to Blackpool, my Grandad (who never used the motorways ) was driving back to Accy down the back roads through Fleetwood / Garstang....

After a while driving down the country road....Grandad slams the brakes on and promptly gets out of the car ( an old Allegro as I remember ) & goes to the boot...opens it and pulls out a shovel and a big plastic bucket !!

Intrigued...(as any 8 / 9 year old would be ) I jumped out of the car to enquire as to what Grandad was up to.......to find my Grandad shovelling up a great pile of horsemuck and depositing it into the aforesaid plastic bucket !!!

"What's that for???" I enquired wondering.......:confused:

"It's for the desert" Grandad replied......:rolleyes:

"What's for desert???" I asked wonderingly......:confused:

" A Splunge " my Grandad answered quickly....;)

"What's a Splunge ???" I asked......bewildered.......:confused:

" A bucket of muck with a crust on it.." was the reply.......:eek:

Joking apart, I always remember my Grandad had a great head of Rhubarb at the bottom of the garden, fed regularly with such finds of the aforementioned horse droppings. My Gran always made the tastiest Rhubarb crumble, accompanied by lashings of custard and thoughts of horsemuck never entered the equation !!:eek:

Back on topic....as a responsible dog owner, I'm often infuriated by other dog owners who don't clean up after their dogs....I am regularly forced to vent my splein at such folk who often look on bemused when I point out the basics of being a responsible dog owner. Like has been said before on this thread....they all seem to use the excuse of not being in possession of poo bags...:mad:

As for bins.... with all the cutbacks.....dedicated dog waste bins in my area of Blackburn have become a rarity.....we're now encouraged to place properly bagged dog waste into regular rubbish bins.....not knowing how waste is dealt with once it goes to processing, I'm unsure of the impact of said action and whether there is any long term consequence???:confused:

That said, I'm all for fines for irresponsible dog owners. Where I take my beloved hound for a stroll, It's got to the stage where I have to watch where the hound is walking for fear of her treading in some other beggars muck.....:mad:

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"It's a real pain when they use up your last bag and then want to go again - here have one of my bags."

Thats ready & waiting for the next conversation where someone says they have no bags, I always carry about a dozen in various pockets often when I dont have the dog with me lol.

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As usual the majority are being punished for a irresponsible acts of a few:-
Dogs could be banned from sport pitches and play areas in Accrington - Accrington Observer

HBC are proposing to introduce new dog control orders,one of the aims is to ban off-lead dogs from public spaces which have been marked as sports areas.
Some responsible owners may need to find alternative areas to exercise their K9 friends if they implement this new order,being a user of sports fields in the past I remember a few smelly incidents where folk had slid through dog muck while playing football and now,as a detectorist,I am also sick of seeing dog muck on fields designated for the enjoyment of everyone and with HBC spending more money on doggy bins...there is no excuse.

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I don't have a problem with this, even though it means that I'll have to walk a mile with my dogs on the lead before they can be let off for their run, instead of just crossing the road and letting them off.

In every aspect of life, you get a minority of scummy, antisocial people who spoil it for the rest. whether it's driving, watching a match, going for a night out or walking your dog. There's very little that can be done about these types of people, in fact the behaviour of the majority promotes further antisocial behaviour by the minority.

The football field over the road from my house isn't too bad - I only see http://i246.photobucket.com/albums/g...ilies/poop.gif within the playing area once a fortnight or so. There's always some in the rest of the field, though. Having said that, the parents of players seem to think it's OK to discard drinks bottles, food wrappers and dead umbrellas where they stand instead of taking it home, but I suppose they are only dangerous to wildlife, whereas excrement is dangerous to their little darlings.

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Close to where I live there are two notices that threaten folk that allow their dogs to defecate on the field with a fine.
It doesn't work...Why?..Because no one enforces these rules.
Will the environment dpt be any tougher with this rule? Hmmm.

Without enforcement these rules are not worth :ooh: ;)

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An object lesson in what can happen when rules are not observed:-
Dog poo on pitch almost cost rugby player his foot « Shropshire Star

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Clearly this individual feels very strongly about the subject. I just hope he does not suffer from giving advice 'to the wrong sort of low life who's dog is not a pet'.

Leiston bush camouflage man given dog mess advice - BBC News

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What on earth someone is walking a dog on the pitch for is beyond me, there is plenty of space elsewhere to do so. But as he says, no one follows the rules there - perhaps it's about time they enforced them.

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I have just had to pick up three lots of dog (excrement)! from the pavement outside my home, with this not being the first time and with there being an (excrement)! bin only 50 or so yards away I have decided to do something about it.
Anyone passing my home can now read a notice that I have erected in the garden asking for their address if their dog (craps)! (sorry, could not help it),
in front of my house, it is only fair after all that I return to them what is rightfully their's.

Yours as ever, Taddy. :dancedog:

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Unfortunatly that is only likely to end up with something untoward happening.

If you want to get them back
Setup a camera to take pics, then setup a psudonym youtube account and when you have several post them and then give the URL in a poster - lol

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one of the funniest things i ever saw was someone rush out of their house , pick up a freshly dropped turd and splat it over the head of the dog owner that left it

two wrongs may not make a right but it sure made my day lol

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Untoward meaning what ?

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Untoward - unexpected and not ​convenient or ​unpleasant:

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I know the meaning of the word but what has it got to do with my impolite notice that is Rude,(maybe), straight to the point from a grumpy, cantankerous old man,(intended),against the law, (doubtful).

The aformentioned notice has found it's way onto facebook by the way, look under Mick Hadfields post.:D

Stay happy as always, Your's Taddy.