The joys of RE-cycling??
 

If you are thinking of visiting the Whinney Hill site to dump any household rubbish you need to try to acquaint yourself with the new, fiendishly complicated rules which apply from yesterday. Otherwise, you stand a very good chance of being turned away and having to bring your load back home. If you can understand the explanatory(?) leaflet which was given to my next door neighbour when being turned away yesterday you are a better man than me! Looking at the rules for Ribble Valley online it would appear that LCC, who also administer their Clitheroe site give them much more leeway. Here, what with 12 monthly permits required for "inert waste", monthly permits for general "household waste", and a limit of 10 bags per year allowed, etc, etc, etc it seems our Hyndburn jobsworths are intent on inviting us to fill the town with even more fly tipping eyesores than we have already.

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I haven't seen any leaflets about new rules. I disposed of some garden waste last week. Is this now affected by new rules?

The joys of RE-cycling??
 

I was under the impression it was just soil/hardcore & plasterboard skips that you needed a permit for (10 bags per year), all other skips are unchanged, has that changed now?

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I went up yon yesterday, wi a load of cardboard plus other stuff, all i encountered was a guy nosing in me boot, no-one said out n i was given no leaflet?:confused:

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From their website this morning.

Types of waste our recycling centres accept - Lancashire County Council

Following the links, it seems you only need a permit if you are using a van, certain types of commercial vehicles or a trailer.

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It mentions in that link that an inert permit is needed for rubble, hardcore, plaster & plasterboard.
Needing a permit for a van is nothing new, but in the leaflet I got a while back it mentioned that taking rubble, hardcore etc. in a trailer would incur a charge (£17.50 I think)

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And if you follow the inert waste permit link, it takes you here - Apply for a waste permit - Lancashire County Council which suggests you might now need permits for everything.:(

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The rules are a nightmare to understand. All I know is that my neighbour was spitting feathers after being refused permission to dump a few ceramic tiles plus a bucket full of soil, and had to return home with them. Wonderful.

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I went to Whinney Hill about a month ago - general rubbish, black bin stuff and small electrical items. No problem and I was given a leaflet which covered rubble, builder's material stc. but no mention of restrictions for other types of waste.
Unless the Lancashire County Council document (Apply for a waste permit - Lancashire County Council), is a badly worded document then it is inevitable that there will be an increase in fly-tipping - is that what LCC/HBC want?
Yet another example of how our elected representatives can screw up once again.

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My husband took a huge bag of nails(removed from pallets) and a brass fire front...grate style thing.
I thought that metals were sought after and sold....these were just chucked in a general waste skip.....not recycled!

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There is a skip there just for scrap metal but if you have a lot it`s worth taking round to the metal recyclers in Huncoat and you`ll get a bit of dosh for it.

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He said there was a skip for metal, but that neither the nails nor the brass fire front went in it.

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yup theres a big skip that says metal on it

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everything that goes through SITAS's gates is sold by them from the rubble to your laptop or TV or even your old iron or hi-fi , sofa etc ( you get the picture)

i find it rather galling for them to charge you to give them something they are going to sell and make money on

dealers in the area pay a monthly fee for what they call the brick a brack cabin where they help themselves to anything they want and then sell the stuff in their shops or flea markets

nothing against a company making money out of peoples unwanted items but to charge people for the pleasure of allowing said company to make money from them is a bit rich

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I have always found the different skips etc. to be clearly identified and the staff there have always been most helpful.

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Himself was going to put the metal into the skip designated for it...but one of the men came and took it off him and put it with general waste, rather than metal.

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You register your vehicle at your house so if you sell your car in that year it looks like you loose your permits for the year

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its a complete and utter joke

LCC as usual getting everything wrong in every possible way

heard their website is down at the moment so you cant even get a permit

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It was last night when I tried to do it

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That's been the case for a long time. It's to help prevent people who might have business waste from using the recycling centre (or tip).

On that subject, my mother-in-law, who was 70 at the time, received an aggressively-worded letter from her council (not Hyndburn) stating the potential fine she could face for disposing of her business waste among her household waste (£50,000 if I recall correctly). She runs a little shop in Haworth and their stance was that no business operates without business waste. The example they cited was that the envelope that their letter arrived in was business waste.

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Crazy, bloody-minded bureaucracy.

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Sounds right to me though, the envelope was business waste. Hyndburn should have the same policy

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If you re-use it though, to write a shopping list on for example, would it then become household waste?

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You should be a councillor Neil, yeh got the same mentality.:rolleyes:

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Should I thank you or curse you?


It's not hard to see that any waste produced by a business is business waste.

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Are fliers business waste? I fill my white sack with the darned things every fortnight perhaps rather than expecting the Council to take them away we should all return them to the businesses that sent them in the first place it's their waste therefore their responsibility to dispose of?

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Well most curse me.:D