Water contamination (Lancashire)
 

It may not effect us in Accrington but it may effect some of your nearest and dearest:
Lancashire residents urged to boil drinking water | Environment | The Guardian

http://news.sky.com/story/1531702/wa...hrough-weekend

I guess,You could go all medieval on this outbreak and just drink alcohol to be on the safe side :D

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"A Lancashire county council spokesman reiterated............that there were no plans to close schools in the area “at this stage”."
That made me laugh, don't they know it's school holidays?

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Another example of councillors coming from another planet.

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Our water suppliers rely on chlorine to make water safe but it doesn't kill this parasite.

Chlorine is toxic. I have a Berkey filter tank to remove chlorine, and it removes this parasite too.
Berkey Water Filter Systems - World Leader in Portable Water Purification

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Stick to gin, it's safer! :D

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Not much good for making a cuppa though :)

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United Utilities map of effected areas:-

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Also,all rumours that it was I who urinated in the reservoir are purely hearsay ;)

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Maybe not but the bug can't live in it and if you put a dash of tonic in you won't get malaria either!

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no good for cooking spuds in either.

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good with iron bru

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Yeuuuk!

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Eh? Spuds! :eek:

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I think he meant Gin.

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Im on annual leave from work at the moment, the guys on my ward must be finding it hard work, i hope the trust are supplying everyone with bottled water

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Blackburn Hospital hasn't been affected.

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Thanx G

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No problem, close though, areas around roman road are affected but hospital and my work at shad ind est must be on a different supply.

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I live near Wynsors and our water is fine too, im still boiling my water for now though just to be sure

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Learnt that a long time ago in Borneo - it must be true as I never got malaria but had to drink a hell of a lot of G & T

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A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do:)

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Right on ... it kept the late Queen Mother alive for over a century:D

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Haha, that's what I always suspected about Liz's longevity!

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A bit more info on this parasite:-

Sources of Infection & Risk Factors | Cryptosporidium | Parasites | CDC

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Compensation nation gone mad or justified?
WATER CHAOS: Compensation claims spark debate - Lancashire Evening Post

Some business's have had to take coffee off the menu because coffee machines don't boil the water and we can't have folk claiming for burns :rolleyes:.

How did this contamination take place,was there relaxed prevention measures at UU which lead to this contamination? Hmmm

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Noticed a pic of Cameron swimming, the caption was "Danger Parasite in the water" pmsl.:D

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Do you mean this one Cashy?

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apparently the contamination came from manure in blackburn


im guessing that means teh blackburn rovers shower room has a leak then

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Nah ive seen that un,since i saw the other un.;)

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Me wonders how anyone would be able to tell the difference with the water in Accy. :)

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i used to paddle in the river hyndburn.......

until i got overtook by a turd

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Well weve been drinking it with evening meal fer years n never had a problem,

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you ever think that were just too nice to tell ya :D

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Is that why you can count up to 6 on one hand ?:p

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I have had people complain about the taste of the accy water - so bottled water is bought in.
I dare not look at a water quality report to see how much of your poo is in it :)

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Accy water tastes fine when mixed with a liberal amount of even mid range whisky.

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It is mighty fine boiled and made into a good brew of builders tea as well.
I am not fond of it neat though.

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Go on Barry spoil the whiskey.

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WATER LATEST: Criminal investigation into contamination - Lancashire Evening Post

Will anyone be prosecuted for this outbreak? Hmmm,I doubt it.

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"UNITED Utilities accepts it is facing a colossal compensation bill for the first cryptosporidium contamination of drinking water in the North West this century"

UU has reassured consumers the payouts estimated at £15m (and counting) 'will not' be offset by a rise in water bills and the cost will be borne by the company.

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perhaps if united utilities spent more money on maintaining the system and shoving less money into share holders pockets the system would be a lot easier to manage when or if a crisis happens

how many times when this company puts water restriction on it does it come to light that they are woefully behind on repairing leaking pipes etc and maintenance

theres something seriously wrong with their system if its taking this long to sort out and we most likely wont ever get to hear the real reason why just some watered down half truth

probably cheaper to pay compensation that to do proper lasting repairs

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The Cholera outbreak in London in days gone by, was caused by contaminated water, how many died then?

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About 620 give or take a few

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im unsure as to how it happened but am sure outside water should not have been able to get into the water in the pipes

this is what happens when you dont fix leaks water dosnt just escape it gets let in as well

excuse the pun but if the pipes were water tight as they should be outside water with contaminates in it wouldnt have got into the system

thats if they havnt changed their story yet but last i heard manure got into the system from farms in blackburn

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:confused:I thought that the contamination was due the inability of chlorine to kill the parasite - so water which had been 'treated' was the problem, not untreated water getting into the network.:confused:

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That was my understanding as this particular parasite is not destroyed by Chlorine.
Water is collected in reservoirs and underground aquifers therefore is liable to contamination from many agricultural sources. To be absolutely specific about the source is impossible - may be run off from a farmers manure pile seeping into a river, or even sheep or wild animal droppings being leached in to a stream, which then feeds a larger stream and so on.
Resolution may take some time when you consider the number of sources.
One thing that will arise from this is the number of false claims for compensation as the cheats crawl out from under the stones.

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Maybe the source is all the irresponsible dog owners letting their mutts crap everywhere and failing to pick it up ;)

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last week the local rag said water from manure from farms in blackburn had got into the system

chlorine might not be able to kill it as they say but it shouldnt have got in to the system in the first place

personally i dont think they know themselves how its happened and they certainly dont seem to know how to fix it

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Don't forget when they've sorted it out at the source and treatment plant there's over 2000 miles of pipes to flush out!
The only way to do that is to run your taps and if you're on a water meter- ouch!
Also your cold water tank will be infected, how can you flush that out?
This could go on for quite a while yet.

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Blackpool's apparently had a very good season this year but I expect the drinking water issue for visitors will be having a bit of an impact.

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Who drinks water in Blackpool? :eek: Its full of Jockanese, hen/stag do's & folk on the lash! :D

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Thinking on exactly the same lines as you DinG - I wonder how many people on here have ever been to Blackpool and drunk tap water?

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Why did it make you laugh?
Just because it's school holidays doesn't mean that schools are empty. Lot's of schools are open with all sorts going on during the holidays.

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aye but no children in em,surely adults know better? if not they aint fit to be in em.;)

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Because I thought it was funny.:rolleyes:

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I doubt that an exact cause of this will ever be found, I also do not think that the water companies should be as vilified as they are being. They have a massive network of pipes & water supplies, some of it extremely ancient and IMO they cannot inspect and maintain it all constantly -there has to be some allowance for equipment & pipes etc to just age.

They do run regular tests and in their tests they picked this up, it took a few days to confirm what it was with extra checking and then to formulate a response, and then time to put it into motion - UV filters do not just sit on the shelves waiting to be bought - they need to be made to order.

Yes, there will be many jumping on the compo wagon, there always is - some people are going way over the top with shouting about the whole thing.

Just boil ya water or go boil ya head :) :)

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you see thats why we pay water rates and water bills to raise money to maintain , repair and replace things as needed to be done.There shouldn't be ancient pipework it should have been replaced years ago but instead of investing enough money they make millionaires even richer and this is why the water should be in the hand sof government and should never have been sold..

time and time again the water companies failings get exposed.Its usually while enforcing a hosepipe ban and the leave a leak spewing thousands of gallons of water a day away for 2 months or something

they deserve every bit of stick they get

the sad part is they wont get hurt by compensation payouts they will continue to feed the share holders the same amount of money or even more and just stick their losses on us by putting the cost of water up to cover it

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You know Accyman, when you slate shareholders they are not just people looking to make a fast buck, they are not all millionaires......some of them will be the fund managers for pension schemes.....pension schemes that ordinary workers contribute to so that when they retire they might just be able to have a life that is worth living.

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And which of the nationalised industries were efficiently run?

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my point is that before they pay shareholders they shuold ensure the system is safe, secure , repaired and updated or upgraded when needed.You dont end up on watchdog repeatedly because your doing an outstanding job

we all pay water rates or water meters so we should all expect safe clean water and for problems to be sorted quickly .

i wouldnt say they have done this as my son is still having to use bottled water to brush his teeth

im sure the people in effected areas arnt concerned wit joe blogs pension 20 years down the line

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From 2010 to 2015 UU have spent £3,600,000,000 on replacing old pipes, improving water quality, sewage quality, sea water quality etc. That's a few water bills spent!

The Franklaw plant is now supplying clean water but there are 2,500 miles of pipes to flush out, some of them 3 or 4 feet in diameter.. That will only happen as the customers run it off although how they'll check if each customers supply is clear I don't know.

And no, I haven't got shares in UU, but they're spending a lot more than the local water boards ever spent.

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Yes of course what you say is true, but you must realise that investors don't only draw money out...or get paid dividends, but they put money into the utilities....and much of the pipework should have been dealt with when it was in public ownership......but the fact was...it wasn't. Mainly because governments didn't want to spend money on such things.
You have to have a balanced view...you cannot tar all investors with the same brush....there MAY be millionaires making money, but there are also very many little people like me, who rely on investments done by fund managers of pension companies to ensure that our pensions make life worth living.....and you are right....no-one cares about pensions until it is time to get one......then it matters far more than many people realise.

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They have kids in them as well. Schools have things going on in the holidays

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Me I love me Lancashire tea.:)

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What percentage of the normal are these kids in em? nowhere near a full school i bet, can the adults in these schools not even educate a few? I'm beginning to wonder the line your taking Neil.:rolleyes:

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Only that he was laughing at the spokesperson saying "Don't they know it's school holidays". Obviously the spokesperson knows the schools are open during the holidays.

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Wouldn't it be up to each school whether they were open or closed, not LCC?

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Looks like United Utilties have decided to start paying out:-

Lancashire water bug: Compensation of up to £60 'a disgrace', says MP - BBC News

I can kinda understand £60 for a residential property but for business's that have lost thousands £60 is a bit of a joke imo.
I guess it shows how much the shareholders think of those folk who have been effected by this.

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more or less what i said they will do

give with one hand and take away with the other

a bit like politicians such as himself do

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Just ran the cold tap and the water has a brown tinge to it anyone else got this ?
I am in the BB5 area

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It must hve been one hell of dump to contaminate so many millions of gallons of water. If gas and lecky leaked like water we would have been blown to ell and back and some of the gas and leck pipe work is near as old as water mains, in some places older. Sheer incompetence in most cases. Its about time some one in power decided just how much profit these utilities need to make to operate efficiently, and then force them to stick to that, and less of the variable tariffs, its all travelling down the same wires and pipes.

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Thanks Retlow looked it up on there website
It's now running clear again

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Your bills have just been agreed upon for the next 5 years, so they will not go up to cover this.
In 5 years maybe.... :)

If you have been boiling your drinking water for the past few weeks it is unlikely that you actually spent £60 on electricity.
See https://blog.npower.com/2013/02/ever...s-cost-to-run/

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You may not have spent £60 on the electricity, but what about the time and effort involved.
I f you normally just turn on the tap for a drink of cold water, then you cannot just do that, the water has to be boiled, allowed to go cold and then chilled......cleaning your teeth too....you have to boil the water or buy the bottled stuff.
It is the inconvenience that is caused as well.