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Can anyone explain to me how Hyndburn Council, who say they have no money ,pay two men to put up Christmas Trees on a Sunday?

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Promised them some free mincey pies & a wee nip or 3 of Sherry for their troubles ......... or possibly a large chunk of ovies for working Sunday? ;)

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I think the latter option is most plausible......think mince pies and sherry would come low on the list of priorities for the fellas

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The same words were used by Frank Griggs on Hyndburn Chat an hour ago. Same photograph too. Why whinge once when you can whinge twice, eh?

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Well, I would never see them on Hyndburn Chat as it is part of Facebook.....I don't do Facebook and I daresay there are others who don't either.
Michael what was the point of your post?

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The point was as written. Also, some people are quick to knock the council. No doubt if a Christmas tree wasn't put up, some would complain about that too. Does it matter that the tree is being put up on a Sunday?

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saw the same post

bad form to name people they may not want everyone on here knowing their real name hence usernames

i sometimes post things from hyndburn chat here and vice versa because i have friends on both who dont use both

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Point taken, but maybe the council workmen would also not like their photo being posted on here and Hyndburn Chat?

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They are in a public place so it is permissible to photograph them.
And yes, it does matter that it is put up on a Sunday. It isn't as if this is an essential service.....for goodness sake it is more than a month to Christmas.
If it was a situation that posed a risk to the safety of the public it would be different.

And aren't you doing a bit of whinging yourself to point out the fact that this posted on two forums?

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I should coco, that naughty boy all in nonge hasn't got his steelys or his hard hat on the little scallywag, I'm sure his bosses will give him a proper ticking off come Monday morning. :D

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Why does it matter that the tree is being put up on Sunday? Many people work on Sundays: supermarkets and other retailers, pubs, road sweepers etc. And no, I'm not whingeing. Just pointing out that some people will complain about anything.

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Quite, but I think you'll find that their rate of pay will probably be the same regardless of the day, but your public sector minions ........... :eek:

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Those who work on a Sumday for Supermarkets will not be on overtime(and certainly not paid from local taxes)......and it sounds like whinging to me.
You are complaining about somebody complaining, but it isn't whinging???
Isn't that splitting hairs?

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By that argument, anyone who tells someone to stop whinging is also a whinger. Or if you tell someone to stop complaining you are also a complainer, or if you tell someone to stop moaning you are also a moaner. We can go around in circles with this one. Why not be positive that the council is putting up a Christmas tree?

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It will be double double time really, after all come January the same men can be photographed working on a Sunday taking them down.

Where can I get an application form? Must be the only employer in Hyndburn that is busy enough to give it's employees overtime. No doubt though H&S will be on the case by then, so they will be out in force putting signs like this up before work can commence:-

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The answer to that is simple....It is not a necessary job.....and certainly not one which requires two men to be paid at premium rates from local taxes.
Especially as the council is looking at ways to trim its budgets......and asking us for our input.
Mine would be.....pay for only essential work to be done at premium rates!

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Ooh, diversionary tactics! Well played Brigadier :s_aim1:

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That made me chuckle!

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If it's not a necessary job, and if the council is looking at ways to trim its budget, then NO Christmas trees should be put up in Hyndburn, regardless of the day of the week. Well I wouldn't agree with that.

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Do You consider it a necessary job?

There are pavements in Accrington town centre which could use two men to much better ends than the placing of a Christmas tree on a November Sunday some six and a half weeks before the festivities.

While I would not subscribe to having NO Christmas trees, I certainly do not think that men should be employed at premium rates to install them.

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Jolly good! A little levity in our everyday lives certainly can't be a bad thing. :)

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Last year I asked my local councillor about fitting a cabinet outside St.Anne's school to contain a defibrulator to save lives instead of spending all that money.We have never had a Christmas Tree before so why start in 2014? The council had their own way as usual

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I am pleased that you do not subscribe to having no Christmas trees. As to whether I consider it a necessary job or not, well is it really necessary for any Christmas tree to be put up, regardless of the day of the week? It isn't, but it's nice to see, and it's only once a year.

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You are right. Christmas Trees are NOT a necessity, but do brighten up the environment.
However, in times when money is tight(like now) you have to prioritise the work being done at premium rates...which is quite plainly what is not being done.

I am not complaining or whinging...and had you not brought up the subject, would have quietly kept these thoughts to myself...but I am sure that if I am thnking them, then others are too.

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Now I don't know if this is true or not, but someone on Hyndburn Chat has said these were not council workers, but workers who had been sub contracted to plant trees at a fixed price in the area, hence why they were working on Sunday. I emphasise I don't know if this is true or not.

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iv got a tree for my house i dont need one outside

town center fair enough it helps traders and makes going into town a littl emore brighter and lets face it accy needs all the help it can get

anywhere else is a waste whoever is paying for them.

if someone wants to put one up out of private money then fair enough but public money no wether it be direct from the council or the council giving a grant theres no need for public money to be wasted on xmas trees etc outside of town center

remember times are hard , they must be the way moneys been splashed around and then they will cut something away like public toilets

merry grinchmas everybody :D

yes i bloody do know its only november :D:D:D:D

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It may be that they considered that Sunday is the day with the least pedestrian traffic so the safest day to put it up.

Or that it was not delivered until Saturday and they had nowhere to put it.

Or that the guys putting it up were not actually council workers but from the company paid to deliver and erect the tree.

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to be honest by the time christmas gets here im sick of it

morons putting xmas lights and trees up in october , november , shops flooding the shelves with xmas stock in the same period and now even the authorities are setting about xmas early

went to buy a birthday card the other day and there wasnt much choice because half the shops stock had been removed to make way for 8 sections of shelving dedicated to xmas cards

i wish shops would click on that people will buy what they need for xmas regardless of when they put their stock out

roll on december the 31st when they put easter eggs on the shelves

no sooner have the shops finished emptying our pockets to celebrate jesus's birth they are shoving stuff in our faces to remember his death

if anything street outlets drive me to shop online at least shopping online i dont get battered with unwarranted guff and annoying xmas music in november

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Accyman, I could not agree more.