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F.I.F.A & Poppies
I hope the F.A. ignore F.I.F.A s ruling that the England and Welsh teams who play each other next week cannot wear poppies on their strips. They say it is against the rules. Well rules were made to be broken. It is not like the poppy is a symbol of any political organisation. I think F.I.F.A. should stop and consider what the poppy really stands for and if it were not for the men that are remembered with them they would probably not exist. The F.A. should put extra large poppies on the shirts and put two fingers up to this outrageous ruling.
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FIFA only know about back handers and money fiddling. I have signed a petition about this matter, The bitch now running FIFA makes Blatter look sensible.:mad:
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What would FIFA do if the teams had the poppy emblem printed on their shirts?
Would they call off the game, declare the result invalid, banish the teams to the edges of the world??? My guess is none of these and if I were managing the teams I would do exactly that....have the shirts printed with the biggest poppy they would take.(front and back) The men who gave their lives in the defence of our country should be honoured and it is only a coward who would be cowed by this decision. I have signed the petition too....not that I think it will do much good. |
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From how i understand it Margaret the F.A. will be fined if they do not obey these cretins, and they aint got the balls to defy em is my guess. i also dont think my signature will make any difference, but doing nowt aint an option in my book,
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Wasn't there something like this a couple of years ago?
I seem to remember a similar storm but in a different tea cup. Those men faught for freedom, gave their lives for freedom of thought and freedom of action, their lives will have been wasted if people can't choose when or where they commemorate those sacrificed to give us all free will. :mad: |
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Though I would rather continue to ignore the game and have you and others go back to a sensible and friendly way of playing it, after all you are free to choose, thanks to the guys commemorated by the poppy. |
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The players in general can less, its the dickheads running the show thats the problem, fail to see why football and the fans should pack it in.:confused:
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I too signed the petition. Maybe it will not make a scrap of difference but I feel I have done my bit. Their rule forbids any religious or political emblems .How on earth the poppy can be regarded as either is beyond me. Here's hoping the F.A. will do the right thing and tell the two teams to wear their poppies with pride as they should.
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Pleased to hear on Radio 5 tonight that the EFA, SFA, and the WFA will allow players to wear a 'poppy' armband in the forthcoming games.
Quite right. Don't know how FIFA has the brass neck to pronounce on anything given its status as one of the most corrupt and corrupted 'businesses' in the world. |
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Does this ban extend to the fans in the stands?
I think anyone trying to tell them not to wear one would get short shift.... It is only because of those that died in the great wars that those players are able to play on that football ground today. So it is in the FA and FIFA's interest to respect those that died so that they can still play games and make money doing so. |
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Fifa should just wind their necks in, the issue is no concern of theirs & they should concentrate on getting their own house in order & promoting football & football only, not politics or causes.
The cretin behind the demand, ex minor UN "functionary", of Senegalese origin, what exactly then qualifies her to open her blabbering, non thinking mouth as to how we commemorate our fallen troops? |
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Dont 'they' remember that quite a few football players signed up and gave their lives in WW1. Pretty poor show if 'they' are not willing to remember 'their own'.
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It looks like the F.A. are set to defy FIFA and take the consequences.
Unless there is a complaint then it seems like no action will be taken by FIFA.....and if there is a complaint, then the F.A. will be likely to mount a legal challenge of the interpretation of the rules. |
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I should think so too.
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Fifa let this pass, so someone somewhere needs to be gotten a grip of.
Ireland's 1916 centenary jersey brought into Poppy controversy debate by British MP | SportsJOE.ie |
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I listened to the FIFA spokeswoman - whoever she is. Inevitably I have a few questions.
1. Who is she 2. Where does she come from. 3. Does she have a background in football, either as a player or coach/manager - in other words what qualification does she have 4. Why the hell should we take any notice of her or FIFA - as Teresa May said - "FIFA, put your own house in order" |
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Here you are Barrie.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fatma_Samoura This gives you the answers to your questions. |
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Female? x Black x Lesby? disabled? 2 out of 4, the other 2 are desirable but not necessary so on the lefty righteousness scale .... yeah she's qualified! |
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I have just read that FIFA is starting disciplinary proceedings against the Wales FA which includes 'fans wearing poppies ' during the match with Serbia on Nov 12th. It was bad enough them taking action over the players wearing armbands with a poppy on but what right have they to object to the supporters wearing them. How they can say that it is political or religious in the first place I do not know. Someone ought to tell them loud and clear that but for the men and women those poppies represent they would not enjoy their freedom. As for the teams that wore the poppy if I had anything to do with it they would refuse to pay any fine they imposed.
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All the teams that wanted to wear poppys, should tell FIFA to stick the world cup up there arse imho, somethings are just more important as far as i'm concerned.
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The so-called 'rule' that has allegedly been breached is wearing a political symbol or message on the shirt. I know this because the Brussels Broadcasting Corporation said so on their web site when the the thing kicked off a few weeks ago (and I believe everything the BBC tells me, not).
What was interesting was that the web article was accompanied by a photo of a Scottish footballer, wearing a "kick racism out of football" armband. Now, I, and am sure most sane people, have absolutely no complaint about that. But how is that not a 'political' message, but a poppy is? If we didn't need to wear a poppy once a year, the team's might have been required to wear a swastika on their shirts. |
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They may think they have some say in what players wear on the shirts but as far as I am concerned they have no right to tell people in the crowd what they should or should not wear. It is their way of thinking that was the reason so many men and women died fighting against it.
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