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boxermum 14-06-2018 04:20

Waste of OUR money?
 
I wonder what accywebbers think of the new recycling bins.Are they a waste of money?.Where do you store your FOUR bins?.The council's argument is that they will stop rubbish blowing about on windy days.My opinion is,use your brain...if it's windy wedge your bags,don't over fill them and they will not spill.
Some people have the opinion 'it's the council's job to clean the mess up' I think people should take pride in their surroundings and pick up any spillage, maybe then OUR council would have no excuse for wasting our council tax.:mad:

AccyMad 14-06-2018 05:52

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I for one think they're a good idea, I'm lucky enough to have space in my backyard for my 3 bins but I realise some people might struggle with the amount of room they take up.
Mine will be colleted from the back too, which for me is a big improvement on the bags & box system

gpick24 14-06-2018 06:34

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I think they`re a good idea too, I doubt the empty bins will get blown away like the empty bags do.

cashman 14-06-2018 06:37

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This should have been introduced in the first place,as far as i'm concerned, we have little room but its much better than the bags, also as accymad said its better collecting from the back, rather than carting stuff around the front. my daughter has had this system for at least 10 yrs and much prefers it.

Gremlin 14-06-2018 07:35

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I certainly welcome the new bins. Much easier to open the lid and drop your recycle things inside.
I hated going out to my sacks with papers and plastic and pulling them open and dropping things.
I doubt as a single occupant that I will be putting mine out every time they are due to be emptied they are so big.
I have sympathy though for people who have limited space for the bins.
And did you know that there are 24 different ways to line up your coloured bins?

Michael1954 14-06-2018 14:32

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I think the new bins are much better. Recycled paper and cardboard always got soaking wet when they were in the sacks, even with a lid on the blue box.

Margaret Pilkington 14-06-2018 14:57

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You can apply for a smaller size of bin if you have only a small storage space.
At the moment I was told that these are in short supply and are being allocated to the disabled first.

The bins have got to be better than seeing all the recycling blown all over the roads because people have not secured the sacks properly....and on windy days the cans blew out of the blue boxes.
And as Michael says handling soggy wet cardboard can have been no fun at all for the men on the wagons.
The bins also will be lifted mechanically rather than the operatives having to lift boxes and bags.

Yes, finding space for them might be an issue, but it is an issue that can be solved.

Less 16-06-2018 17:54

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I seem to remember, (possibly because I've reached the age were yesterday means nothing but something from a long, long time ago has taken it's place), that the reason we ended up with bags and a box being emptied at the front was because the first set of recycling lorries were purchased before it was realised that they couldn't operate in our back allies as they were side loading.
That is why we had to put stuff out the front. Now, a new set of wagons? Rather than say we are rectifying a mistake that a six year old could have pointed out, they claim it's because they are answering to public demand, had there not been this stupid error we would perhaps have had bins from the beginning and the extra expense of replacing bags would never have happened?

Would it be possible for someone from the Council to honestly either confirm or deny my decaying memories ramblings?

Margaret Pilkington 16-06-2018 19:30

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Don't hold your breath waiting for the answer Less.

Less 16-06-2018 19:44

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1214247)
Don't hold your breath waiting for the answer Less.

Thanks for the advice I was starting to turn blue and getting a little light headed.
:bingobang

Margaret Pilkington 16-06-2018 20:12

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I know you...you rascal..you just wanted someone to come along and give you 'the kiss of life' :D

Less 16-06-2018 20:35

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1214251)
I know you...you rascal..you just wanted someone to come along and give you 'the kiss of life' :D

These days, I'd be lucky if they just pushed me into a corner so that no-one trips over me.

Barrie Yates 17-06-2018 16:57

Re: Waste of OUR money?
 
I have only got one concern - glass bottles and jars being dropped into a bin will inevitably result in breakages. I just hope that any broken glass isn't left in the streets/roads.

Less 20-06-2018 15:04

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Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1214281)
I have only got one concern - glass bottles and jars being dropped into a bin will inevitably result in breakages. I just hope that any broken glass isn't left in the streets/roads.

Depends on how you throw your bottles into the bin, must say with the old bag system never saw bottles blowing in the wind.
Twas always plastic & paper.

RainbowSix 20-06-2018 19:36

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I have a multitude of recycling bins, 1 for general waste, 2 recycling ones, a cardboard/paper one and a garden waste one. 2 of them make for handy garden storage :)

Neil 21-06-2018 09:39

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Barrie Yates (Post 1214281)
I have only got one concern - glass bottles and jars being dropped into a bin will inevitably result in breakages. I just hope that any broken glass isn't left in the streets/roads.

The bins will be lifted and emptied into the back of the wagon so nothing should fall onto the street.

maxthecollie 29-06-2018 12:54

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The new bins are very flimsy and lightweight. I can see them blowing all over in a strong wind after they have been emptied

cashman 30-06-2018 06:01

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Originally Posted by maxthecollie (Post 1214589)
The new bins are very flimsy and lightweight. I can see them blowing all over in a strong wind after they have been emptied

Which to me is much better if that occurs than cans etc blowing all oer the street surely?

Barrie Yates 30-06-2018 16:51

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Got our bins delivered this week, fortunately we have room for them - we also had the unused green bin collected. So our next collection of tins, plastics etc will be in 2 weeks time - absolutely no problem, but then we have to wait another 4 weeks for the blue bin to be collected again.
My logic said that is it is going to be 4 weeks between collections then the blue bin needs to be twice as big as the blue bag and blue box combined. So I thought I might as well do a bit of simple arithmetic, the figures for the blue bag are only an approximation but not too far out.
The blue bag is approx 0.4 m diam and 1.0m long which gives a volume of 125 litres (approx). The blue box is 51 litres (approx), a total of 175 litres. As this is collected every 2 weeks under the old scheme and the new scheme is to be collected every 4 weeks, one could reasonably expect the blue bin to have a minimum capacity of 350 litres. However, the blue bin has a capacity of 240 litres, so perhaps we will have a councillor telling us how to dispose of up to 110 litres of recyclables that wont fit into the bin every month. No doubt the person responsible for deciding the bin size requirement went to the same school of advanced mathematics as Dianne Abbott.

RainbowSix 01-07-2018 09:44

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I recycle (and nag at the family to do so too) as much as I can, however a lot of plastics does not have a 1 or 2 within a triangle on, meaning that its likely not recyclable using our chosen recycling plants (not that its "not recyclable").
The plasitcs\tin wheelie bin is full every 2 weeks.

For cardboard, the wheelie bin for that is also full every 2 weeks.

If my kids ever actually clean thier rooms we get excess and I have to put it in other bins that have been put out for collection.
The non recyclable bin is always full with the lid being up a bit after 2 weeks.

So if there is any future suggestions of going on longer periods then there is gonna be hell to pay.
I stopped using the garden wheelie bin for garden waste when they introduced charges and its now a useful storage container for excess stuff.

Luckily I Have a litte bit of space I can add all these wheelie bins out back, not much but just enough. Others have not got that space.

But I certainly do not see them as a waste of money, bags were a pain, the blue tub was a pain & too small, wheelie bins are far easier to manouver and cleaner. (although you dont want to put your nose in my non recyclable one.)

Barrie Yates 01-07-2018 18:20

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Originally Posted by RainbowSix (Post 1214643)
I recycle (and nag at the family to do so too) as much as I can, however a lot of plastics does not have a 1 or 2 within a triangle on, meaning that its likely not recyclable using our chosen recycling plants (not that its "not recyclable").
The plasitcs\tin wheelie bin is full every 2 weeks.

For cardboard, the wheelie bin for that is also full every 2 weeks.

If my kids ever actually clean thier rooms we get excess and I have to put it in other bins that have been put out for collection.
The non recyclable bin is always full with the lid being up a bit after 2 weeks.

So if there is any future suggestions of going on longer periods then there is gonna be hell to pay.
I stopped using the garden wheelie bin for garden waste when they introduced charges and its now a useful storage container for excess stuff.

Luckily I Have a litte bit of space I can add all these wheelie bins out back, not much but just enough. Others have not got that space.

But I certainly do not see them as a waste of money, bags were a pain, the blue tub was a pain & too small, wheelie bins are far easier to manouver and cleaner. (although you dont want to put your nose in my non recyclable one.)

The blue bin has it printed on top "All Plastics" and even a picture showing the cleaning/disinfectant type bottle. I think the information leaflet states not to include polythene.

RainbowSix 03-07-2018 18:52

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In Rossendale they only accept pet and HDPE plastics. putting something else in make the entire batch get rejected aparently.

Barrie Yates 03-07-2018 21:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RainbowSix (Post 1214643)
I recycle (and nag at the family to do so too) as much as I can, however a lot of plastics does not have a 1 or 2 within a triangle on, meaning that its likely not recyclable using our chosen recycling plants (not that its "not recyclable").
The plasitcs\tin wheelie bin is full every 2 weeks.

They now state that all plastics (except polythene bags and wrappings), should be included. So bleach bottles, detergent and fabric softener bottles, shampoo, conditioner, meat trays etc. should now be included.
I reckon that whoever decided upon, and whoever approved the sizes was educated at the Dianne Abbott School of Advanced Arithmetic.

monkey hanger 04-07-2018 09:52

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Quote:

Originally Posted by RainbowSix (Post 1214681)
In Rossendale they only accept pet and HDPE plastics. putting something else in make the entire batch get rejected aparently.

in the bradford area certain plastics go in the recycle and others in the waste. put the wrong one in and they will not collect it. unless you know which plastic is which its a nightmare. soon they will be running courses to tell you which plastic is which.

Hill Walker 04-07-2018 10:20

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My area started with an interesting definition - 'If its a bottle its recycleable - otherwise its not'. After about a year the definition changed and is now 'soft plastic' or 'hard plastic' but its quite unclear which is which.

RainbowSix 04-07-2018 19:11

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So you see, different boroughs have different ways of looking at this and they use different recycling plants who take different plastics (or not).

Fun this recycling isn't it :)

monkey hanger 05-07-2018 09:41

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Fun this recycling isn't it :)[/QUOTE]

should be an easy task but there are councils involved so its a nightmare.


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