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Margaret Pilkington 30-06-2020 12:37

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Maybe he should read this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forc...g_World_War_II

Margaret Pilkington 30-06-2020 18:18

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It is reported that Matt Le Tissier has come out against the virtue signalling luvvies.....and to a degree he has...but he is sitting on the fence.
He has said that he cannot support an organisation that wants to defund the police, and smash capitalism, but disappointingly he will still wear the badge that proclaims BLM....he says he is against racism, but does not agree with the ideology.

Might there be some people out there who can think as good as they can see?
Might the tide be turning?

cashman 30-06-2020 19:13

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1241581)
It is reported that Matt Le Tissier has come out against the virtue signalling luvvies.....and to a degree he has...but he is sitting on the fence.
He has said that he cannot support an organisation that wants to defund the police, and smash capitalism, but disappointingly he will still wear the badge that proclaims BLM....he says he is against racism, but does not agree with the ideology.

Might there be some people out there who can think as good as they can see?
Might the tide be turning?

Doubt very much if tide is turning sadly, theres way too many dickheads these days.

Margaret Pilkington 30-06-2020 20:57

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Matt Le Tiisier was asked by Sky to wear the badge...he did not do it of his own volition.
A footballer called Karl Henry has criticised the movement too and he is a black player.
The PFA and other football organisations are said to be distancing themselves from this movement as well..

Why might that be then....because if capitalism is trashed there will BE NO FOOTBALL because these guys eager to take the knee will lose their wages....I can't see them playing for nothing...can you?

Margaret Pilkington 30-06-2020 21:45

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Jamie Redknapp and Patrice Evra have ditched the BLM badges that they were asked by Sky TV to wear.

monkey hanger 01-07-2020 07:22

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1241585)
Jamie Redknapp and Patrice Evra have ditched the BLM badges that they were asked by Sky TV to wear.

be interesting if these two eventually will get ditched themselves at the first opportunity sky get.

cashman 01-07-2020 07:30

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Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1241588)
be interesting if these two eventually will get ditched themselves at the first opportunity sky get.

that would not be a shock.

Margaret Pilkington 01-07-2020 08:44

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I think if they both get ditched by Sky then pertinent questions will be posed.
Also, footballing bodies are nor reviewing their stance regarding the BLM organisation which, I think, might make it harder for Sky to ditch these two commentators.

Maybe the world of sport is waking up to the real aims of the BLM organisation.

Margaret Pilkington 01-07-2020 08:59

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All of these footballers jumped on the bandwagon for to make themselves look aware, now they are left looking foolish because the BLM organisation is anarchist and Basically Linked Marxism.....political.
But the footballers have their brains in their boots....and some of them just a bit higher up their anatomy.

Less 01-07-2020 11:02

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1241548)
Lewis Hamilton has signed to drive for Mercedes.
Maybe someone should tell him that this year marks the 80th Anniversary of Mercedes using 30,000 slaves in their enterprise

Well, yes, that is part of their history, however the people working for Mercedes these days are far removed from the people and attitudes employed during Hitlers regime.

Lets not fall into the same trap as many people of all ethnicities already have, part of our history was involved in slavery, yes, but that is what it is history, those of us alive today are not the people that committed these acts and would condemn such actions.
We should not be punished for what happened then, it isn't within our powers to change history nor should an attempt be made to make us feel guilty for what happened hundreds of years before we were born.

There will be successful people from all walks of life just as there will be failures amongst people that have been given as good a start as everyone else, it seems to be these people that expect to have everything handed to them on a plate and will play the poverty/racist cards in any way that might just squeeze them an extra advantage without actually getting out there and proving they deserve all they demand, they just run around like the Queen of Hearts condemning everyone they can.

Margaret Pilkington 01-07-2020 17:49

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Less, I am not falling into that trap, merely pointing out that he is blinkered in his views of what happened....if he deplores what went on with regard to the black slaves,(some three centuries ago), yet fails to recognise what went on within living history, then is he not hypocritical? Especially as he is going to earn money from working for an organisation that has done things that he finds objectionable when they were done to black tribal men and women.

I accept that we cannot change the past, we can only learn from it.
I am so fed up of hearing those who parrot on about BLM without having any real idea what they are protesting about.


If you asked those who toppled the statue of Edward Colston to tell you something about the man I would bet that all they would know is that he was a slave trader.

And your last paragraph is spot on.
Those who cannot succeed will find someone other than themselves to blame.
Those people who are truly deprived and oppressed, yet make a success of themselves, have my admiration....maybe they were in some way motivated by their disadvantage....they asked for nothing, but worked to get where they wanted to be.

cashman 01-07-2020 18:03

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there are black slaves being sold this year in Libya they are nigerians i have seen pics of em today, aint noticed B.L.M. nor Antifa protesting about that whats happening now, not a few hundred years ago or is it perhaps they aint protesting cos whites aint selling em?

Less 01-07-2020 18:30

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Lock down making you a bit sensitive Margaret?
Although you are almost always in my thoughts when I post on AccyWeb (you are after all our most prolific poster and you built your Nursing career from a standing start of nothing),
I wasn't thinking of you when I wittered about falling into a trap,,,

... and try as I might to explain to whom I was aiming that at, would end up oddly racist no matter how I try to put it to all those Queens of Hearts out there so I won't bother, (maybe lock down is making me a bit sensitive too, but unlike the natives I don't feel restless).


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abpm6brSE74

Exile on Spencer St 01-07-2020 19:13

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Interesting, if lengthy article below, which concludes:

Globally, the region with the most slavery is Africa, with 0.76% of the population enslaved (GSI, 2018). However, political correctness dictates that it is acceptable to criticise whites, but not blacks, even if this means focussing on the past (about which we can do nothing), rather than the present and future (which we have the ability to change).

To conclude, BLM believe that the primary victims of discrimination are black women, when they are more likely to be lower ranked men. BLM apparently also believe that the primary perpetrator of violence against blacks is the state, when it is blacks. In other words, Black Lives Matter misidentify both the victims and the perpetrators. Which is a shame, because black lives matter.


https://hectordrummond.com/2020/06/3...k-lives-matter

Margaret Pilkington 01-07-2020 21:19

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Less Lockdown has not improved my patience or my irascibility, but make me sensitivie...no more than usual (but you may be asking the wrong person this question).
I did wonder if there was an underlying message...because there often is with your postings...sometimes what you DON'T say is far more interesting than what you do say....please take that in the spirit it is meant...that is a respectful one.


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