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This awful news. He was doing his job meeting with his constituents .. and loses his life doing his job.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58930593

Have they not learnt anything after Jo Cox's death in 2016?

We are lucky in this country - we can talk to our mp's and ask them what we want or if we need help .. so many countries you cant approach their government .. and if you try you end up arrested and thrown in jail known as a troublemaker etc etc ..

Is that what its going to take our MP's having 24hr body guards .. what is going on with this country today ..

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and now theyre saying its a possible terrorist incident

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58935372

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i think the judicary contribute to things by being way to soft on offenders!

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Spent most of yesterday evening following the story on GB News, yet through the whole sorry process, it appears the rest of the mainstreeam media are continually skirting round the fact of the murderers identity. Even plod when having to admit the awareness of said murderers nationality immediately classed it as "Terrorist" related.


A simple fact in the UK crime statistics that the whining liberals & leftist morons totally avoid & deny is that the bulk of murders & knife crime are carried out by a particular demographic, yet still they refuse to accept this & put adequate measures into place.

Oh just one small correction there Jen, it wasn't a death. it was an out & out cold blooded murder by someone I personally think should not be upon the UK's pleasant lands.

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Dave, I am with you 100%

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Nice to know Tads, but at the same time you've just voluntarily added yourself to the list of vile, "Xenophobic, nazi, phobics" by agreeing with me.


Apparently we're fairly commonplace & loathed by the whiny lefterist liberal "intellectuals" & snowies of the world & as such, should be hounded down & burnt at the stake of anti multi culti heresy!



Aye well, I'm still here & not particularily concerned about my impending doom & will continue to rile illiberal liberals & their moronics as long as I keep drawing breath.

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It is reported that the murderer is ‘British’ but of Somali heritage.
What on earth does that mean?
Was he born here?
Or was he accepted as a refugee and given a British passport.
If it is the latter then he is not British.
If he was a refugee then he was probably given advantages to help him settle here….money, a home, health care etc.
The things that are denied to some of our veterans who are suffering mental health issues and get ****** all.

It is just a shame that an armed response team were not sent out to diminish his life.
Now, he will have the soft hearted hand wringing liberals to fight his case…he will go to prison and be looked after without lifting a finger.
Bloody Pathetic.

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well i,m proud to be in your gang also dave. just look at our capital run by sadiq jabbem. knife crime rising. deaths from it rising and all he can do is attempt to ban stop and search where he knows who the majority are involved in it are. if it was white over 65 males involved i for one would not object to being stop and searched if it helped to stop the problem. facts are facts no matter how the lefties try to paint things and one day they,ll end up smelling the coffee too if they manage to grow up and not end up on a slab themselves. next thing will be the list of excuses rolled out for his murder seeing as he is a box ticker. there must be the mental health card somewhere out there that needs playing. great britain, thats a joke.

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We let them come.
We hold open our door,
For those disadvantaged
The displaced and the poor.
We hold out our hands
No matter their colour or creed
We open our hearts…
Fulfil human needs.
Shelter and food….the basic stuff.
But all that we do,
Well, it’s never enough.
Disgruntled and angry.
They take up a knife…
With seventeen thrusts
They ended his life….
The life of a man who
Who was gentle and kind.
Leaving sorrow and sadness
We aren’t meant to mind.
We ‘re still meant to welcome,
To honour and trust….
Those in our county….even if they’re unjust


I know it’s only doggerel, but it is how I feel

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I just heard this piece of crap has "Been on a coarse" cos of his EXTREMIST VIEWS but was NOT a person of interest. so how the hell does that work? to me it demonstrates how USELESS our authorities are,

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If a snake found its way into your house you could shoot it.
This bit of excrement will live out his life in relative comfort….able to follow his culture and religion….never wondering where his next meal is coming from, knowing he has a clean comfortable bed.

I feel so sad for the family of David Amess……his wife saw him off yesterday never believing that it would be the last time she would see his smile.
This man was a supportive of the large Iranian refugee community in Southend……so why did this scum believe that killing him would solve his grievance?
An out and out coward.

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to some extent the authorities have their hands tied behind their backs by the government and those at the top. can anyone expect any different when in the met. you have a dick in charge with sadiq jabbem running the show. its funny how the diane abbott lefty crowd have been silent over this. if the murderer had been killed in custody they,d all be out spouting their twisted one sided views. got to be very careful in what i say as i could be banged up for a few months if i said it all but download images of kids and you,d walk out of the front door. what a country this has become where minorities of a minority seem to run the show in every field.

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The father of the murderer says he’s ‘traumatised’…..well, I am sure he is nowhere near as traumatised as the man his son killed….or for that matter the female PA who was unfortunate enough to be there when his son murdered this MP.

It transpires that the father is an ex Somali government official…..something to do with communications.
I wonder if that might be why the intelligence services did not act in a more robust way.
This man was known to them and had been plotting this act for a week.
So if they knew that, then why is Sir David Amess dead!
Was it a case if being afraid to have the racist card levelled at them…..or the Jimmy Savile effect…..an important mans son?

Well whatever it was will come out in the wash.
But don’t shed tears for the murderers family….David Amess had five children and a wife..

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I SUSPECT that may be the reason this was not followed up, wonder if his father did? somehow i doubt that.

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Remember Cashy….it’s Black Lives Matter…stale pale middle class men are of absolutely no consequence.

And yes I am sure that this mans father is part of the reason why the terrorist son was not apprehended.

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Another thing…..there is no defence to this act….there is no doubt about who did the stabbing, so this man should hang.
I know that sounds radical, but it is time to make some radical changes, because what we have done so far has been not just ineffectual, but pathetically inadequate.

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as far as im concerned if beyond doubt anyone who murders should be hung, there are many these days who CAN be proved beyond doubt with modern advances, so apart from wet sods whats the objection?

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I object to this piece of crap being jailed for years…..and we the tax payer being responsible for the cost.
If dispatch at the end of a rope is unpalatable to the liberal hand wringers…then perhaps he could be dropped by parachute on a remote cold island.in the Hebrides.
He could be equipped with a spoon and a loincloth…….if he could survive that then so be it.
Isn’t there an island up there that is still contaminated by Anthrax?
Just saying.

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statsthe more i think about this with advances made in technology, there should be no doubt at all the guy should be hung. but weigh this up at this point he aint even been charged yet, thats how silly our law has become.!! Stats i have seen MURDER has increased since the wets ceased hanging as a DETERRANT?

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If you catch a man with a knife in his hands and there is a fellow dead…stabbed full of holes, on the floor…how is this an ‘alleged’ murder?
And why does there need to be any kind of investigation….?
The murderer was caught red handed…..there should be no need for a protracted process.
It should be a foregone conclusion…..and the best end would have been a bit of hot lead straight to his head.
Instead we must now look after this piece of excrement….for the term decided by some loony liberal judge.

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Can anyone hazard a guess at why this terrorist has still not been charged with murder.
He was there, he was witnessed in the act, yet he still has not been charged.
How much investigation is required…and how much of it is relevant to the fact that he butchered a family man.
Is there some background skulduggery going on….like psychiatric bods being wheeled in to get him off on diminished responsibility.
We are going to be sending this guy to live out the rest of his life in some place like Rampton…when he should have got a spoonful of hot lead.

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its bothered me for days Margaret,its the fault to me of the way our law has gone simple as. plus the JUDICARY are virtually USELESS yet no-one who can does anything about it .thats the reason i have abandoned the main news channels.

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I just think it is rather fishy….that he has not been charged…that his father was part of the Somali diplomatic scene…..it should have absolutely no bearing on the process of prosecution.
I do not remember if other terrorist situations have been subject to the same delays.
I don’t think there will be much involvement with the judiciary until the CPS decide on the case.
It is once the case goes ahead that the judges get their beaks into the bowl.
Hot lead….a great lump of it!

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I know that will show me to be lacking in compassion….and some may even say racist.
This murderer had no compassion and was he not racist?

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This tries to explain why he hasn’t been charged…

https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/1...peak-its-name/


Maybe they are interviewing his father as one source of his insanity? (but I doubt it).

https://order-order.com/2021/10/19/t...is-irrelevant/

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Not racist, I fully believe you'd hold the same view had it been someone white who'd done exactly the same & I whole heartedly agree with your sentiment as I would image a large silent majority of the British public do too.


Unfortunately, we are let down by a spineless government, cowardly judiciary & a multitude of whiny, illiberal liberal, bed wetting leftist bleaters who constantly screech their objections over & above the average fair minded public & their views.



Sadly the UK has turned way past anything I was once proud to be a part of.

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Exile, thank you for those links, but they do not really explain just why this man who is the only man in the frame for this murder…….the spiked one uses a lot of words, but boils down to blaming us…..making us confront what the media would have us believe are our faults and prejudices….you know….that white privilege crap. I have NO white privilege.
No one gave me anything in this life….yes I am white, but every advantage I gained in life was worked for….was hard won……NOT Given.
I actually do not care if this man were painted with green stripes, or if he came from the hinterland of Chorley
He is a murderer!
And do you think if he had been white, there would have been this hesitancy?

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Yes, I would hold the same views regardless of the ethics, colour or creed of this evil man.
And I get really wazzed off by those who would wish to minimise the crime by telling me that this man has ‘mental health Issues’
This is a catch all excuse that is too easy to fake and use.
How long will it be before we are having this discussion again and the Muslims will say that we are guilty of islamophobia……yet so far the common denominator in these murders is one thing…..Islam….the religion of peace, but likes to behead and beat women and children and use them as slaves.

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Guess how our politicians are going to react to another murder by another Islamomaniac?
Going back to hiding their expenses!

https://order-order.com/2021/10/20/r...s-information/

Btw, Margaret, I read the Spiked article completely the opposite way to you. The author, I thought, was making the point that the political and media elites, in their desperate obsession with identity politics which seems only to recognise the evils of white/western societies, will ‘deflect’ criticism onto that target or (yet again) play the ‘lone wolf’ card.
Must be a helluva big pack of lines wolves amongst us.

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with a bit of luck he,ll be charged, found guilty and sent down. with a bit of luck some of the nasty boys will make his life a complete hell inside and might wish himself for the death penalty. if that does happen i hope someone leaves some pills or rope about so the lefties moan about his mental state not looked at when he tops himself.

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And do you think if he had been white, there would have been this hesitancy?[/QUOTE]

honestly the way things have become i think there will be some wishing he had of been white and not those of a similar heritage to him either.

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Was it really opposite to how you read it Exile?
In my eyes(and maybe I have the wrong end of the stick here) they are deflecting the issues of what is really wrong(not tackling the Islamist terrorist agenda) and blaming us for having the views about these poor misunderstood peace loving Muslims.
These people who have chosen to be here……some whose choice it has been…..and some whose choice was fostered by their parents desire for what they saw as a better life.
But these young men who feel so marginalised by our unfortunate (?) views of them and their ideologies are not trees…if they do not like it here…..then the door is open for them to leave….yet none of them do…preferring to blast innocent people out of existence…..and doesn’t that make them feel the peace and love that Islam is based on…or is it just power?

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No,he will be segregated against harm…he will be housed with the kiddy fiddlers…..or he will be holed up in some part of HMP’s mental Health facilities.

None of this explains why no charges have been forthcoming.

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Doubt he’d be segregated, he’ll be taken to the Wahhabi Wing to join his pals.

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The whole thing is down to respect for the country you wish to move to and live in. I doubt any of us if we moved to a muslim country would behave as some of them do in ours. If you do not wish to respect traditions of any country you do not move there. If you do and you feel its that bad then sod off somewhere that will suit you better. Doubt many will as there are too many british citezans who cannot wait to change their country to accomodate anyone else.

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It seems that this terrorist murderer has at least been charged.
What took so long?
I hope he is not relying on Mental Health reasons for his cowardly actions

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think thats a knocking bet myself.

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I hope they put ordered pork scratching in his curry then.