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monkey hanger 08-11-2021 09:06

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Do not know what its been like this year over the hill but over this way last night was the 4th night in a row we have had to suffer the reinactment of the battle of stalingrad. Not a killjoy for those who enjoy them but surely its remember remember the 5th of november and not days before and after the event. Enough is enough for me and surely something needs doing for the future. However when profits are being made out of their sales its not time to hold my breath.

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2021 10:21

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It has been much the same here…and the run up to Bonfire week has been punctuated with bangers most nights.
What is it that makes these bombs like banger attractive?
They scare the bejesus out of me.

cashman 08-11-2021 11:40

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i think the government should stop them making fireworks so loud? the noise these days is ridiculous, most kids love fireworks and i aint one who says ban em but just use common sense,and stop selling them after nov 5th, not perfect i know but it will help;

taddy 08-11-2021 15:41

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1259146]Do not know what its been like this year over the hill but over this way last night was the 4th night in a row we have had to suffer the reinactment of the battle of stalingrad. Not a killjoy for those who enjoy them but surely its remember remember the 5th of november and not days before and after the event. Enough is enough for me and surely something needs doing for the future. However when profits are being made out of their sales its not time to hold my breath.

I read an article in the daily mail the other day where a question had been put to ten and eleven year old school children, the question being "what is Guy Foulks remembered for, some answered, "he was the maker of fireworks" others thought that he invented the forks that we use to eat with, not one had ever been taught the real reason for "gunpowder, treason and plot".What the hell are our so called teachers, tutors, lecturers putting in to our childrens brains, Rant over, glass empty, time for another Hobgoblin.

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2021 16:31

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Taddy they are teaching them woke topics….climate change etc.
But these children will still want to watch fireworks (not sure hope much they affect our carbon footprint….but you can bet it will be adversely)…..they will also not be taught that their devices (which use Lithium batteries) are not a bit green…….that children as young as seven will be excavating the chemicals that power these things…..and that for every KG of these chemicals use up half a million gallons of water…..and these chemicals are in places where water is at a premium.
But that is an inconvenient truth when a sixteen year old wants to take a selfie…or post on Instagram…..
They do not know this information, but they will still sing from St Greta’s eco powered hymn sheet and wag school every Friday….but only as a protest against climate change….not because they really want to skip school.

Margaret Pilkington 08-11-2021 16:33

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Yes..I know…I know….my anti cynicism pills seem to have stopped working.

DaveinGermany 08-11-2021 18:14

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1259166)
What the hell are our so called teachers, tutors, lecturers putting in to our childrens brains, Rant over, glass empty, time for another Hobgoblin.


Illiberal liberal lefterist anti British woke snowflakery!


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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1259169)
Taddy they are teaching them woke topics….climate change etc.


You beat me to it Ma. :)

taddy 09-11-2021 09:27

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1259170)
Yes..I know…I know….my anti cynicism pills seem to have stopped working.

Get your G.P. to prescribe a stronger dose, (What G.P.) they are all in secure hiding places whilst picking up £100-000, a year plus, nice work if you can get it.

odders 09-11-2021 10:20

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Had 2 complete tools at the back of mine last night . One starts, next man goes bigger.Started around 10ish, by 12bells I thought they had ran out. Oh no 3.20 someone launches a scud missile. Fireworks for general public should be limited to the week either side of Nov 5th. They're more a nuisance today than entertainment. I'm not for a ban, better regulation and responsibility.

Margaret Pilkington 09-11-2021 12:12

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Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1259192)
Get your G.P. to prescribe a stronger dose, (What G.P.) they are all in secure hiding places whilst picking up £100-000, a year plus, nice work if you can get it.

What is a GP Taddy.
I have not seen a GP since about 2018 after my surgery by Mr Mc Allister.

It has been pretty damn impossible to see anyone.
My other half had problems with earache….had it on and off for about two months.
Did not resolve with home remedies or over the counter stuff.
I rang for an appointment…..yes I got a telephone appointment, but not with a doctor….and tell me, how do you determine if a problem is a build up of wax or something more serious on a telephone consultation?

I am glad that I have no long term health issues because even those who do are struggling to get the usual care.

dotti34 10-11-2021 07:32

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My question is this - how can people afford to buy all those fireworks? Are these the same people that cry 'poor' at the drop of a hat I wonder.

monkey hanger 10-11-2021 08:06

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Originally Posted by dotti34 (Post 1259238)
My question is this - how can people afford to buy all those fireworks? Are these the same people that cry 'poor' at the drop of a hat I wonder.

thats why they are poor. its a poor mans celebrity type of lifestyle they are trying to live. just wait till christmas arrives. they are the ones that will want for little as long as everything is pre packed that is.

Less 10-11-2021 08:39

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Well everything can with a twist be considered a plus, I'm going deaf and wear hearing aids almost all the time, Fireworks start, out come the aids peace once more!:thumbsup:

taddy 10-11-2021 10:46

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[QUOTE=Less;1259251]Well everything can with a twist be considered a plus, I'm going deaf and wear hearing aids almost all the time, Fireworks start, out come the aids peace once more!:thumbsup:

I also wear hearing aids, have done for 20 years or so, they are ideal for when Mrs Taddy attempts to give me earache whilst I am trying to;) watch a rugby union match on t.v.;);)

Margaret Pilkington 10-11-2021 12:16

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My other half is selectively deaf…he doesn’t hear what I say to him…he needs the TV turned up loud…but he can hear a toffee being unwrapped at a hundred paces….how does that work?

monkey hanger 11-11-2021 08:11

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1259261)
My other half is selectively deaf…he doesn’t hear what I say to him…he needs the TV turned up loud…but he can hear a toffee being unwrapped at a hundred paces….how does that work?

memories of my old man there. never had to repeat the words of, do you fancy nipping out for a pint, but can i borrow a fiver till friday always fell on deaf ears.

taddy 11-11-2021 10:04

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1259261]My other half is selectively deaf…he doesn’t hear what I say to him…he needs the TV turned up loud…but he can hear a toffee being unwrapped at a hundred paces….how does that work?

Marge it is a man thing, even before I put my hearing aids in I can hear if someone cracks the cap of a bottle of Hobgoblin at the said One hundred paces.

cashman 11-11-2021 10:47

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ive had hearing aids for years but i cant find em.

Less 11-11-2021 11:21

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Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1259280)
ive had hearing aids for years but i cant find em.

Perhaps your glasses aren't working?

cashman 11-11-2021 11:33

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1259281)
Perhaps your glasses aren't working?

they aint much good i got cataracts.

taddy 11-11-2021 15:28

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[QUOTE=cashman;1259280]ive had hearing aids for years but i cant find em.

Maybe you should have gone to Specsavers.

cashman 11-11-2021 16:35

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i did read post before yours.

DaveinGermany 11-11-2021 17:58

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Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1259279)
Marge it is a man thing,


Blokes & Dogs Tads, tell a hound to get over here as we're off out in the rain, or just off the sofa/seat/bed, nothing, deaf as a post. Yet go into the kitchen & open "their" cupboards/fridge & they're near on running you over & that close you'd think you had a pork chop hangin' out your pocket.

RainbowSix 11-11-2021 19:46

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I hate the bloody fireworks.
I had to take a week off work so I can walk the dogs earlier (while it is still light) and one of them will not go out in the evenings except when she is crossing her legs and then it's only a quick one.

The only saving grace this year has been the rain, I look forward to it every oct - jan.

monkey hanger 12-11-2021 08:06

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Originally Posted by RainbowSix (Post 1259295)
I hate the bloody fireworks.
I had to take a week off work so I can walk the dogs earlier (while it is still light) and one of them will not go out in the evenings except when she is crossing her legs and then it's only a quick one.

The only saving grace this year has been the rain, I look forward to it every oct - jan.

add to that the number of ex servicemen with PTSD who are bothered by them as well. nothing will happen though as it will be the samew at new year and all next year as well.

Margaret Pilkington 12-11-2021 09:58

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Yes…I have to admit that I also hope for a wet and windy Bonfire month…because these days that is how long the fireworks seem to last….added to that we live close to the Dunkenhalgh…..so when there is a big party for a wedding, birthday etc…I can guarantee there will be fireworks…often after 11pm.
I do not mind those the just Whoosh…but what in heavens name is the attraction of bangers that sound like bombs going off.

I think that to buy fireworks you should have to do a pyrotechnics course, have a licence renewable each year at a cost and prove that you know how to handle these things.
And all fireworks should cease at 11pm.

DaveinGermany 12-11-2021 14:16

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1259311)
add to that the number of ex servicemen with PTSD who are bothered by them as well.


I can thoroughly agree with that, I've always been fine & had no problems despite the tours I was involved in. What always struck me, especially living here in Germany was the amount of fireworks & especially "Bangers" that were set off for New year, I often wondered & still do how some of the older folk feel on new years eve.

Bramsche is 14km from Osnabrück a major Garrison town in the days of Adolf (also later when the Brits were stationed here), added to that the metalworks, railyards & industry, plus the 3 Airfields, Achmer, Hesepe & Vorden took a very heavy toll in bombings from the RAF & USAF. I'm pretty sure the yearly carousing & festivities on the 31st would most certainly bring back some unpleasant memories for some of these folk.

taddy 12-11-2021 14:36

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Well spoken Dave, it must be the same for anyone still alive who had to suffer the nightly bombing raids during the 1940s.

Lost in Cornwall 13-11-2021 07:41

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In the 90's I worked with a bloke whose brother owned a firework company that put on organised displays. Mark, the guy I worked with, had a licence to be responsible for displays so he could help his brother out around November 5th and the amount of stuff he had to know to keep it was incredible. Now, I suspect those same powerful fireworks can just be bought over the counter by any idiot who hasn't got a clue what they're doing. Our oldest cat had a wonderful year this year because she's gone deaf and hadn't got a clue what was going on so just slept peacefully through it.

monkey hanger 13-11-2021 08:32

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Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1259333)
Well spoken Dave, it must be the same for anyone still alive who had to suffer the nightly bombing raids during the 1940s.

there cannot be many of these folk around now unlike in the 50,s where nearly everyone from senior school upwards would have remembered them in many parts of the country. fireworks were never thought of being a problem back then. two reasons were they were not as loud and only went on anyway for a few hours one day a year. imagine the uproar then if celebrations went on for a week or for every birthday through the year.

Less 13-11-2021 09:04

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I also seem to remember that if Nov' 5th fell on a Sunday the 'celebrations' would be held on the Saturday.

monkey hanger 14-11-2021 08:31

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Originally Posted by Less (Post 1259362)
I also seem to remember that if Nov' 5th fell on a Sunday the 'celebrations' would be held on the Saturday.

yes they were, but after last nights lot it seems as if it falls on a friday they are also put back 8 days.

Margaret Pilkington 14-11-2021 09:39

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Strange…I do not recall postponing/ bringing forward Bonfire Night if it fell on a Sunday.

taddy 14-11-2021 09:44

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Me neither

Margaret Pilkington 14-11-2021 10:06

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As far as I remember .bonfire night was only ever held on the fifth of November…it was never a moveable feast.

DaveinGermany 14-11-2021 10:07

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I think the bommy on Saturday was more of an economic/social thing, especially when the Pubs would put a display on. As Kids I recall we'd take it in turns amongst the neighbours as to who'd host the bommy that year & all the Mums would do something to take, butties, pies, sossy rolls Treacle toffe etc (all home made mind).


The Dads would organize the "Party 7's" a modest packet or two of fireworks, (weren't going to waste good Beer tokens on rockets), & us kids would get some sparklers, then as the fire burnt down & turned to embers we'd stuff spuds & Chezzies in tinfoil around the edges.



Happy days & the joy of kidhood! :o

monkey hanger 14-11-2021 11:16

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1259422)
As far as I remember .bonfire night was only ever held on the fifth of November…it was never a moveable feast.

It never was but i,m sure as a kid that one year most people had their fireworks and bonfires on another day when it did fall on a sunday. remember back in the old days sunday was regarded as a day of non enjoyment where even just playing out was frowned on by some miserable sods. can still hear the words of don,t you know its sunday when you dared to kick a ball about in the afternoon. its one thing where change has been for the better.

cashman 14-11-2021 12:04

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i think that musta depended on where yeh lived round this way twas always November 5th as i recall? mind they were strange gits elsewhere lol if it was sunday way back Guy wouldnt have said put it off.

odders 14-11-2021 12:21

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Yeah bommy night was 5th whatever the day. Plate meat and spud pie, red cabbage,separate pastry on loose broth, suping Bovril, fireworks and treacle toffee.... and them black peas and vinegar. Kids know zip, it was fun not a biggest bang, you wanted it still burning in the morning:dflam:

Margaret Pilkington 14-11-2021 14:29

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Treacle toffee, we didn’t have Bovril….we had dandelion and burdock(stantons…stone bottles)
Sarsaparilla and home made ginger beer to drink(I am sure that stuff was alcoholic because our lads used to go daft after drinking it)….a great big Jacobs join….Mrs Flynn made the best Parkin ever.
And the fireworks were more for wonder than for scary……bangers didn’t burst your ear drums.

Lost in Cornwall 15-11-2021 07:58

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We weren't allowed to have a bonfire or fireworks on a Sunday. Can't remember whether we had them Saturday or Monday instead.

monkey hanger 17-11-2021 11:03

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1259443]Treacle toffee, we didn’t have Bovril….we had dandelion and burdock(stantons…stone bottles)

Were Stantons an accrington firm as i remember an accrington firm delivering over into yorkshire in the early 60,s selling various pop in stone bottles out of a van. Remember the accrington connection but not the firms name. it was a novalty as we had not seen the like before.

DaveinGermany 20-12-2021 16:59

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Just a little side note here folks, the Germans & lots of European countries tend to celebrate New Years with a major blow out & lots of fireworks. This year in Germany the Govt & the Lander have decided there is to be a ban on the sale of said items so as not to overload the health system with additional injuries clogging up the Ozzys on top of the covid carry on (and to also reduce pollution levels).


If folk have some lying around from a previous year they can fire them off, but the shops will not be selling them, this is now being challenged by the firms in Germany who make fireworks because such an action will be losing them a vast amount of their yearly turnover. Furthermore, it will mean folk sneaking over borders to buy legal & illegal products from neighbouring countries.


Seems that politicoes, regardless of their nationality or leanings really don't do joined up thinking & the assessment of cause & reaction.

cashman 20-12-2021 17:53

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[QUOTE=monkey hanger;1259533]
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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1259443)
Treacle toffee, we didn’t have Bovril….we had dandelion and burdock(stantons…stone bottles)

Were Stantons an accrington firm as i remember an accrington firm delivering over into yorkshire in the early 60,s selling various pop in stone bottles out of a van. Remember the accrington connection but not the firms name. it was a novalty as we had not seen the like before.

Stantons were an accy firm, and deliveredto many places so was probably yorkshire, to educate them to decent pop they were in stone bottles also.:)

Margaret Pilkington 20-12-2021 20:01

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We awaited Friday night with anticipation.
That was the evening they delivered to Marsden Street.
We waited at the bottom of Riley’s Hill with our two stone bottles…..we mostly got sarsaparilla and dandelion and burdock…but sometimes ginger beer.
It was rationed at our house…because it was a luxury.
Can you imagine explaining a glass of pop being a luxury to the kids of today?

monkey hanger 21-12-2021 11:40

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Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1261448)
We awaited Friday night with anticipation.
That was the evening they delivered to Marsden Street.
We waited at the bottom of Riley’s Hill with our two stone bottles…..we mostly got sarsaparilla and dandelion and burdock…but sometimes ginger beer.
It was rationed at our house…because it was a luxury.
Can you imagine explaining a glass of pop being a luxury to the kids of today?

can hear the grunts now.


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