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Margaret Pilkington 01-01-2022 19:55

Tony Blair Knighted
 
Well, that is a turn up for the books.
That odious snake of a man has been given a knighthood in the NY Honours list.
I hope when they use the sword…it is sharp….and her Maj slips and slices his carotid artery……maybe that would make me feel better.

I thought the Queen disliked this man.

monkey hanger 02-01-2022 08:49

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nothing to do with her as she does not pick the names. then it just adds more ammunition for people like me who want to see an end to all these honours lists for good. the ones given to local people for work done have always felt that they are there to keep people on side with the whole affair. just wonder how blairs credit would have gone up if he had actually refused the award. he has missed a good Google Page Ranking opportunity there that surprises me.

cashman 02-01-2022 09:20

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well theres more than 130.000 signed a petition to strip him of it in2 days already, not that it will make any difference. i hope that petition comes my way. thing is the queen HAS to make ALL prime ministers so, all she has done is delay his for years its protocol or some rubbish like that, i was surprised it took this long.

DaveinGermany 02-01-2022 10:02

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Knifed not knighted would have been my preference for the creature Blair. The "man" is a stain upon the UK with all the things he, his govt & that screeching witch of a wife of his have done to destroy the UK.

monkey hanger 02-01-2022 10:47

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lots of the garbage we now have can be laid on the period of him being PM. possibly only the good friday aggreement was the highlight and only one of his time in office. the other one was to eventually split the labour party for good.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2022 11:02

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No, she does not provide the names of who is going to be given honours, but she has the right to refuse those that she considers inappropriate….so she has had to have agreed to this.

Where in society do war criminals deserve honours.
He was the one who promoted multiculturalism and look where that got us.
He did not follow up on his promises of Education, education, education….and as for being tough on crime and tough on the causes of crime, well that worked didn’t it.

He was made an Ambassador to the Middle East…..a place of war and corruption….and he did not improve anything.
He was where the Labour Party lost it…because he made it Tory light…..not really Tory but most certainly not Labour.

Calling him a snake is a slur against snakes….he is a louse, a blood sucking, self promoting useless louse who made money off the back of misery.

cashman 02-01-2022 12:33

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are you sure she has the right? this honour is given to ALL prime ministers as far as i know.she aint likely to change what has always happened?shes not gonna upset the applecart to suit you now is she.

cashman 02-01-2022 12:58

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by the way i hate Blair and his wife, and if he got summat incureable it wouldnt bother me in the least.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2022 13:01

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Yes, I thinks so Cashy…and it might be that pressure has been brought to bear because the fact that he was not granted a knighthood meant those that followed him could not be knighted ahead of him.
I think it was being discussed on one of the politics shows a while ago.

I cannot abide this man….Cashy, I feel about him, the way you feel about Margaret Thatcher.
Just seeing his grinning face sets me in a rage.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2022 13:02

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262076)
by the way i hate Blair and his wife, and if he got summat incureable it wouldnt bother me in the least.

I just hope that I am around when Karma calls to deliver his just desserts…..and I hope he gets a sh*tty spoon…..one that has a razor edge and cuts his lying tongue off.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2022 13:08

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Speaking of Honours…it is thirty years since my dear departed Ma was given the British Empire Medal.
Now that is where the honours should go.
To the little people who keep the wheels turning….who give of themselves and expect nothing in return.
Not these swivel eyed celebs and political no marks.

cashman 02-01-2022 13:27

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have to be honest i despise him and his wife even more than i despise thatcher and i did not think that would be possible. just shows lifes full of surprises.

taddy 02-01-2022 17:20

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Calm Down people, enough already.

Margaret Pilkington 02-01-2022 19:01

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Being told to calm down never works for me Taddy…in fact if anything it infuriates me even more….that is just the way I am.
It is like being told not to worry…that doesn’t work either.

monkey hanger 03-01-2022 08:44

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;
Just seeing his grinning face sets me in a rage.[/QUOTE]

the man of the rictus grin. he was the one that started me off saying that whatever he does and say i,ll do the opposite to have more chance of getting it right. at least now they have found someone worse than jimmy savile to give a honour too.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2022 08:46

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If you feel that this knighthood is wrong…please sign the petition.
It may not make much difference, but it will show those who proposed this t*rd….what we think of their actions.

https://www.change.org/p/the-prime-m...share_intent=1

monkey hanger 03-01-2022 10:16

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already did it but as you said its wasting out time.

cashman 03-01-2022 11:45

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262103)
If you feel that this knighthood is wrong…please sign the petition.
It may not make much difference, but it will show those who proposed this t*rd….what we think of their actions.

https://www.change.org/p/the-prime-m...share_intent=1

it will not make any difference at all i think but thanks for posting it.:)it makes me feel a bit better.

Less 03-01-2022 12:09

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262081)
have to be honest i despise him and his wife even more than i despise thatcher and i did not think that would be possible. just shows lifes full of surprises.

Got to admit she may have been spiteful and vengeful against the miners but she was true to her own, he would **** on anyone to advance his own agenda.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2022 12:36

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262117)
it will not make any difference at all i think but thanks for posting it.:)it makes me feel a bit better.

I know it won’t make a jot of difference.
The Civil servants will see to that….it is they who make up the list that the Queen is given to rubber stamp.
I do not know If she had turned anyone down in the past.
This knighthood I’d for Chivalry and you could not call this man chivalrous by any stretch of the imagination.

While I know our signatures will have little effect…at least it make me feel like I have expressed my disgust at the situation.
This mans honour devalues every other person past and present who has been given recognition.

cashman 03-01-2022 12:47

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she cannot turn anyone down for this award. FACT.check how long this award has gone on i think you may be surprised.:) nearly 700 years i believe so their surely must be worse than Blair awarded it?

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2022 13:16

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I looked on the Royal Family Site and it said that the Queen has the sole right to confer honours.
However it did not say that she could refuse….but she does not choose who the recipients of honours are.
The civil servants provide the list of people they feel should be honoured.
Not sure if they also choose the category of honour too….although there are some honours which are reserved solely for military personnel.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2022 13:19

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There might have been worse, but that doesn’t make it right.

The worse ones were not in my living memory…..

I think the only reason she has agreed is because there are other PM’s who cannot be honoured without this lump of slime getting his honour first.

cashman 03-01-2022 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262126)
There might have been worse, but that doesn’t make it right.

The worse ones were not in my living memory…..

I think the only reason she has agreed is because there are other PM’s who cannot be honoured without this lump of slime getting his honour first.

that is exactly what i thought. some have had to wait longer cos of blair.

Less 03-01-2022 13:51

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262128)
that is exactly what i thought. some have had to wait longer cos of blair.

How pathetic a bloody waiting list!
Really?
Surely these 'honourable' people didn't just wait around for their turn to be honourable? Makes no sense to make them wait now, if there are only so many per year then if you didn't make it that particular year, you should become void from the list until the next honourable thing you do in the future.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2022 17:29

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The thing is all of these past prime ministers were well paid….went on to earn even more money from contacts made while in politics….go on after dinner speaking engagements…write books……it is just huge ego trip.

If that odious man had any morals at all (but we know from past experience he doesn’t know the meaning of the world) he would turn down this award because he knows that he has very little public support….but of course being a narcissist he has to take it.

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2022 18:52

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In the 700 years since the inception of this honour, 40 people have had the award removed.
Don’t ask me who or when, because that I do not know.

cashman 03-01-2022 19:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262138)
In the 700 years since the inception of this honour, 40 people have had the award removed.
Don’t ask me who or when, because that I do not know.

removed by who is a good question i think?

Margaret Pilkington 03-01-2022 21:45

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There is a committee called the Forfeiture Committee.
Fred Goodwin the Head of RBS had his knighthood rescinded, George Castledine too….he was head of the Nursing and Midwifery council.
Anthony Blunt….the spy….there are quite a few if you search for them….but all of them would have fallen under the scrutiny of the Forfeiture Committee, and it would be deemed their behaviour was unbecoming to the honour.

Well, that can certainly be said about Blair before he even gets it.
He should be on trial at The Hague for war crimes.

monkey hanger 04-01-2022 10:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262138)
In the 700 years since the inception of this honour, 40 people have had the award removed.
Don’t ask me who or when, because that I do not know.

search and research the blair family tree. he may have a relative in the past with some vague action in the slave trade. that would certainly make him number 41 on the list.

monkey hanger 04-01-2022 10:34

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262141)

Well, that can certainly be said about Blair before he even gets it.
He should be on trial at The Hague for war crimes.

thats not the only thing he,ll be remembered for. we are still fighting against him immegration and so called human rights policies he brought in. anything we do not like about todays great britain can be traced back to him where he either brought in or sown the seeds for it.

DaveinGermany 04-01-2022 15:42

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1262154)
thats not the only thing he,ll be remembered for.


Quite, if the rumours are to be believed about Teflon Tony & his "Miranda" exploits.

DaveinGermany 04-01-2022 16:01

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Just read this, not a popular chappy the "Jackanapes".


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...-Years-Honours

taddy 04-01-2022 16:45

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I do realise that everyone is entitled to their own views but come on people this post is getting rather out of hand, I have no time for Blair but I have just finished reading a book about a "select" mission that was authorised by the Blair government to send our troops into Sierra Leone, to stop the so called "west side boys killing, raping, chopping the hands off babies,in order to restore some kind of humanity to the country. I think that being a democratic country we should be prepared to help out other nations that "ask for our help".

cashman 04-01-2022 17:43

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thats all well and good taddy, but end of the day Blair lied to many when he sent people to die in iraq. you may forgive that but i and many do not, i voted labour all my life and was a member of the party 20 odd years, if you think he deserves that honour thats up to you.

DaveinGermany 04-01-2022 18:00

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1262165)
I I think that being a democratic country we should be prepared to help out other nations that "ask for our help".


Helping out when asked is all well & good Tads, but 46-47,000 British troops from all 3 services were initially deployed in 2003 to Iraq, all based on a whole pile of lies & Blairs ego.

Margaret Pilkington 04-01-2022 18:01

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Taddy I have no qualms with helping out other countries.
To be fair, the Brits are the first to put their hands in their pockets to give from their hearts.

Yes of course you are entitled to your opinion…..but if you look back, it was the era when the Labour Party lost its way….this man and his policies were responsible for damaging the fabric of this country.
He allowed uncontrolled immigration, believing that this would increase the voter base of the Labour Party.
He lied to the people of this country regarding the war in Iraq….and the weapons of Mass destruction.
He was responsible for the loss of life in the Military community, but also civilians in Iraq
Then there was the covered up death of David Kelly….also whitewashed to deflect interest and blame.

This honour is the top honour in Chivalry….he cannot be considered chivalrous by any stretch of the imagination.
While you may think that this is over the top….there are a lot of people in the country who wish to make some sort of protest over this award.

It will not make much difference because the MPs will not be allowed to debate the issue due to Parliamentary rules….but at least we can show the man how little the population think of him….not that this will cause him any loss of sleep.
If he had anything about him he would turn down the award…but of course he won’t

The fact that Keir Starmer supports this award also shows how out of touch he is with public opinion

taddy 05-01-2022 08:54

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Cashy, Dave, Marge, I am right with you on the Iraq war but as for Blair being called a war criminal don't agree,as far as I am aware in order to be cited as a war criminal you need to have broken the Geneva Convention but I stand to be corrected on that.

Less 05-01-2022 08:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1262181)
as far as I am aware in order to be cited as a war criminal you need to have broken the Geneva Convention .

Or perhaps to be branded a war criminal all it needs is good and honest citizens to disapprove of your morally corrupt actions?

Margaret Pilkington 05-01-2022 09:20

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It has today transpired that Geoff Hoon was told to burn documents that showed the war to be illegal…he was the Minister for Defence at the time….Now why would he do that if it was not illegal? The death of Dr David Kelly was alleged to be because he was about to spill the beans regarding this….and his supposed suicide has been called into question by many medics who know what a suicide looks like….but all were silenced.


I am sure that I read that the attorney general warned TB that the invasion would be illegal….and that legal charges took place to the wording of documents to make this less clear(meaning lies)…but I cannot find these right now(isn’t that a surprise!)
Blair took this country to war with Iraq on the false premise of WMD…..and George Bush was implicated in this decision….Blair was his puppet….and he wanted to go down in the History book like Maggie Thatcher with the Falklands war.

Blair should be locked up, not knighted.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...could-illegal/

Just so that you can read it for yourself.

cashman 05-01-2022 09:21

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yeh missed LYING out in that sentence Less.

Margaret Pilkington 05-01-2022 09:50

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Q: How do you know when Tony Blair is lying.
A: His mouth is moving.

monkey hanger 05-01-2022 11:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262169)


The fact that Keir Starmer supports this award also shows how out of touch he is with public opinion

he is a rich politician therefore that makes him out of touch for a start. with all the advisers these people have he surely could have supported the decision in a different way and not go pro tony on us. even saying something like every ex PM are never fully supported but everyone gets a knighthood who did it may have been a better course to follow.

Margaret Pilkington 05-01-2022 11:29

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Giving every past PM an honour devalues that honour immediately.

It fails to differentiate between those that were good, those that were mediocre and those that were quite frankly, useless….John Major falls into that category.

Tony Blair deserves a category all to himself…..he was not just bad, he was atrocious….he damaged the fabric of UK society with his damnable policies.

Mark2009 05-01-2022 16:05

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Interesting piece on Clem Attlee. When a Labour prime minister had the wellbeing of the country at heart.

https://www.gov.uk/government/histor...clement-attlee

monkey hanger 06-01-2022 09:46

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262198)

Tony Blair deserves a category all to himself…..he was not just bad, he was atrocious….he damaged the fabric of UK society with his damnable policies.

so true. that should never be forgotton with far too much illegal war stuff being placed at his feet and getting away with the rest. forget iraq for a minute and concentrate on his legacy to the country. just kick it off with his responsibility for splitting britain for a start giving us sturgeon and drakeford in the end.

Margaret Pilkington 06-01-2022 09:59

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Am I the only person who sees the devil in this picture?

taddy 06-01-2022 10:08

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[QUOTE=Margaret Pilkington;1262215]Am I the only person who sees the devil in this picture?

The eyes say it all.

cashman 06-01-2022 10:18

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no your not margaret.

Margaret Pilkington 06-01-2022 10:20

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Yes, they do..they say that he has no soul, no heart, no feelings. no ethics, no morals and that is scary.

Margaret Pilkington 06-01-2022 10:20

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Cashy, I am glad I am not alone, because if I was he would scare me!

cashman 06-01-2022 10:29

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he married the devil i think.

Margaret Pilkington 06-01-2022 12:05

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They would spoil another couple…that’s for sure.

monkey hanger 07-01-2022 09:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262221)
he married the devil i think.

wonder if the local cinema was showing To The Devil A Daughter once the blairs had their lass.

RainbowSix 07-01-2022 19:31

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I see the biggest petition has now over 1 million signatures.
There are about a dozen of these.

monkey hanger 08-01-2022 10:31

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surely even if nothing is done in this case then once a figure like that is reached then it should be put to parliament for a re think and free vote on the subject. we could have dame diane of the abbott in the future.

DaveinGermany 08-01-2022 12:50

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And she can even do the adding up! :D

Margaret Pilkington 08-01-2022 14:10

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Quote:

Originally Posted by monkey hanger (Post 1262324)
surely even if nothing is done in this case then once a figure like that is reached then it should be put to parliament for a re think and free vote on the subject. we could have dame diane of the abbott in the future.

It will not be debated because this is not an honour sponsored by parliament….just by that chameleon Keir Starmer ( it is alleged that he nominated this oxygen thief)
We can only hope that the ceremony is done with a sharp sword by some Royal with a very shaky hand.

cashman 13-01-2022 10:40

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whats made me laugh today is the fact STARMER agrees with Blairs knighthood yet Johnson having a glass of wine in his backgarden is worse.just shows how stupid Labour have become to me.

Margaret Pilkington 13-01-2022 11:09

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Cashy, it is all about scoring points....Keir Starmer is an opportunist...he jumps on any bandwagon of censure....yet there is not one member of his party that I consider would make a likely replacement to the crew who are in now...and HE certainly has not inspired me to vote Labour...not while he has that inept side kick Angela Rayner.

I have to say that the whole 'Partygate' thing has been engineered to create problems for the PM...and I think the one making the bullets is Dominic Cummings...he may not have fired these bullets but he made them for someone else to shoot.

Boris should have come clean sooner...and he should have apologised(not that it makes anything better) but he tried to bluster it out.
Not the best idea especially when there are those who are baying for his blood.

cashman 13-01-2022 16:04

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it is point scoring but if it made me look stupid i would not do it.;)

taddy 13-01-2022 16:21

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As you say Marge, I like you think that Dominic Cummings has something to do with all these (so called leaks) but then again if you (sack), the very person who has engineered the "Lets get Brexit done" and then claimed that it was all your idea in the first place, very much like Donald of "Trumpton", a mythical place on C.B.B.C. then he deserves everthing that he gets. The only thing that worries me is that other than maybe Liz Truss, who? has the skills to take on the job of running the country? certainly no paper waving Labour come "communist" speakeasy.

Margaret Pilkington 13-01-2022 16:30

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Taddy….my thoughts too.
Except I cannot see anyone on the horizon who is commanding enough to step into the breech if Boris is evicted.
Not altogether sure about Liz Truss….in fact…No, can’t see anyone with the round things in the underwear department that might be strong enough to stand up to the Whitehall mandarins….you know those unelected bodies that pull the strings on every politician in office.

Margaret Pilkington 13-01-2022 16:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cashman (Post 1262543)
it is point scoring but if it made me look stupid i would not do it.;)

The thing is Cashy….as you so eloquently pointed out….they are too stupid to think….and they do not live in the world that we inhabit.
The fact that they thought they could get away with a party while the rest of the country was following the rules (those that THEY made for US to follow) is evidence of this…if evidence were needed….and Dominic Cummins, and Matt Hancock clearly thought that they did not need to comply…there were others too.
Yet we, the hoi polloi were considered to be too irresponsible to,look after ourselves without their intervention.

Less 13-01-2022 16:40

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Quote:

Originally Posted by taddy (Post 1262544)
Labour come "communist" speakeasy.

A strange party is that, the only communist party with tory leanings, I believe at the close of their next annual do they'll be singing, 'we'll paint the red flag blue again'.

DaveinGermany 15-01-2022 09:06

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Margaret Pilkington (Post 1262538)
Boris should have come clean sooner...


Boris & the rest of the political ilk regardless of party don't do "coming clean", not unless they've been found out & the tv news, papers or opposition parties start crowing about it to anyone who'll listen! (While at the same time trying to hide their own dirty little secrets)

Stumped 22-02-2022 17:42

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Absolutely stinks. Granting Blaire a knighthood is like giving the Devil a sainthood.


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